Yes.
But it wouldn't be based on a franchise, which is their current policy. That's why dinos were dumped.
I'm explaining the situation, not arguing the policy is good.
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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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But it wouldn't be based on a franchise, which is their current policy. That's why dinos were dumped.
I'm explaining the situation, not arguing the policy is good.
rreading
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It’s been speculated years ago on here that Indy could have an adventure to an experience which could have dinosaurs.
I would assume that they aren’t pursuing anything so adventurous, but do we know anything about the Indy? I presume based on the current building that it’s not a duplicate of the California ride
I would assume that they aren’t pursuing anything so adventurous, but do we know anything about the Indy? I presume based on the current building that it’s not a duplicate of the California ride
HMF
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To put it lightly, If Rohde felt that an Indy clone would fit in Animal Kingdom, He would have put it there in 1998. Thank God he decided to actually be creative.
It’s separate from the Disneyland one. All we know right now is that it will involve a feathered serpent.
HMF
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Quetzalcoatl, an Aztec god, an actor portraying him used to appear on a screen in the ancient cultures portion of the former El Rio Del Tiempo attraction at EPCOT's Mexico pavilion which became Gran Fiesta Tour nineteen years ago. Man, I feel old.
Mr. Sullivan
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I'm actually super fascinated by this. I'd love to hear why you think so, genuinely! It's not an opinion I see very often, so I'd love to hear about it.
Mr. Sullivan
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HMF
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Regardless, The fact of the matter is that this is just another byproduct of the Iger IP mandate restraining WDI's creativity and the only reason they are doing it is because park maintenance let the dinosaur attraction fall into a state of dis-repair which gave WDI an angle to replace it with Indy combined with the never popular and always maligned Dino-Rama and decided to use those two factors to kill all of Dino Land. Both of the attractions coming really don't have really anything to do with animals which is supposedly the parks theme but of course Theme Parks are just "Stupid Entertainment for Stupid People" in the eyes of Disney leadership not an art form that actually has a set of rules and deserves far more credit than it actually gets.
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lazyboy97o
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Mr. Sullivan
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Except that isn't Animal Kingdom's theme and never has been. It involves animals, but that is a massive over simplification of a complex message that Rhode and his team developed for the park.
Further, if complaints are going to be logged about Indy being moved in for an IP mandate by Iger, are the same complaints going to be logged about the fact that the current attraction is not the original and is in fact a refresh of the ride that shoved in a brand new Disney IP for the sake of promotion of the film (that failed miserably and then the ride stayed like that for a further 26 years).
Or are we going to pretend that didn't happen because someone other than Bob Iger made that call?
HMF
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You are right, my mistake.
HMF
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If you are talking about the dinosaur film from 2000, other than the name change not much else about the attraction changed much. Thus, why it lasted far longer than the movie was in the public conciseness, Though I personally would have combined the two names to make it sound more epic.
Mr. Sullivan
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Absolutely untrue.
First and foremost, the reality is that the ride was influenced by the movie in the first place. Rhode himself has confirmed on several occasions that the subject of the ride being finding an Iguanadon and the ride's villain being a Carnotaurs were influenced by their knowledge of the film (only in the original ride, this iganuadon was not explicitly Aldar).
Even still, when they made the explicit change over, the ride changed a lot. These changes were not simply cosmetic or simple insertions of the film's main character, there were fundamental changes made to the ride's story, tone, and movement. Why did they do this? Well because Michael Eisner was obsessed with the movie Dinosaur and was sure it was going to be a massive hit so he wanted the ride to be more welcoming to families who loved the film.
(The film flopped. Families did not love it.)
The original ride's story placed a lot more emphasis on the impending meteor strike. In DINOSAUR, it's still a component but the story was reconfigured to focus more instead on the carno chasing you as it was the villain dino of the film. They changed the ride's finale to accommodate this, removing the meteor strike and replacing it with a final attack by the carno.
The ride's narration was changed as well. Since the ride featured no music, they used Seeker's narration to set the tone. In DINOSAUR, the tone was softened a great deal from the original ride to make a less dark and foreboding experience.
The movement profile of the EMV was softened very noticeably. It was a lot rougher on opening than when it came out of refurb as DINOSAUR, and this was done to make the ride more appealing to families, along with the tone softening of introduction of Aladar into the story. The movement profile was softened so much that the ride's height requirement was lowered by a whole six inches.
Show lighting was added to give light to scenes that previously took place in the dark, and scenes that previously already had it had their lights brightened. Strobe effects were also reduced.
The sound of the dinosaurs was also changed to make the threat feel lower. For example, in the original ride, the EMV would traverse in the dark as the sound of the carno's footsteps pounded right next to you. In DINOSAUR, this scene was given light, and the carno's footsteps were made to fade out as if you were losing it and it was falling behind, removing the immediate danger from the scenario.
Not only was the ride designed with IP synergy in mind, when they did actually make the full change over to full on iP integration (not even 4 whole years after the ride's opening), they did indeed make massive changes to the original ride to fulfill this aim.
Purduevian
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What’s wrong with River Adventure? It’s getting some TLC this year which is very much needed. I suspect when it returns to have Raptors as articulate and expressive as Blue on USH (but not Blue because this is staying JP) and hopefully a more articulate ultrasaur and a return to all the hadrosaurs, but I disagree. No other dinosaur ride can match the moment of the T-Rex coming out of the shadows and nearly eating you as you go down the drop. It’s jaw dropping every time.
FigmentFan82
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BrianLo
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The revisionism in its dying days is always a bit fascinating. I’m glad some people have really liked it. Even if it was never for me, I’m not here to take that away.
However, the broadly perceived inferiority of Dinoland USA and the Dinosaur ride have been present since day one. Amongst guests and most users on this forum, historically. It’s never been terribly well regarded compared to potential, nothing to do with maintenance.
A huge revamp would have been nice, but at that level of money required it just doesn’t align with their strategic priorities. And ironically would probably include another coaster, versus the dark ride we are getting. For that reason I think this is the better trade-off.
However, the broadly perceived inferiority of Dinoland USA and the Dinosaur ride have been present since day one. Amongst guests and most users on this forum, historically. It’s never been terribly well regarded compared to potential, nothing to do with maintenance.
A huge revamp would have been nice, but at that level of money required it just doesn’t align with their strategic priorities. And ironically would probably include another coaster, versus the dark ride we are getting. For that reason I think this is the better trade-off.
UNCgolf
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I don't know about that -- when Jurassic Park River Adventure is fully functioning it's a great ride. I think it's the best ride at Universal Studios or Islands of Adventure.
EPCOTCenterLover
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I wish that they could have kept Countdown to Extinction/ DINOSAUR and upgraded effects and expanded into a different type of land- all the while adding Indy and Encanto. As far as Dinorama, I'm glad it's gone. I still think an outdoor based excursion that focused on more friendly dinosaurs could have been a hit for families with littler kids. Oh that blessing of size. 
I hate to see part of the park's history disappear, but change can be good depending on what it is.
I hate to see part of the park's history disappear, but change can be good depending on what it is.