New Tomorrowland @ Disneyland? Is this the year it finally gets announced? No, and that’s OK

[mickEblu]

Wow. I guess the PeopleMover track itself isn’t nearly as far gone as people assume. Idk how much has changed in the last 13 years, or whether that approach would even still be viable today.

I’ve also heard that the Carousel Theater building is in pretty rough shape now, specifically that parts of the ceiling are collapsing. Probably lack of maintenance, but if they kept maintenance up, seems likely the original plan would’ve used the second floor of the Carousel Theater as the PeopleMover queue. I actually like the movie Tomorrowland, but it underperforming at the box office probably killed any momentum that project had.

Still, it’s encouraging to know that Imagineering has wanted to bring the PeopleMover back for a long time. I just hope it's not Disneyland Forward holding it back, but it probably is. Would be really nice to have something big for Disneyland's 75th.

I think using the Carrosuel theatre makes sense but im actually against removing the tracks from the middle of main walkway like the article mentions. Half of the charm of the PeopleMover is seeing those vehicles go in and out of the Star Tours and Buzz buildings. The astro orbitors placement is a way bigger issue than the People Mover track support columns.

 

[DrStarlander]

I guess the part I cant get around is the double whammy of not having a slam dunk IP AND the fact that it would require tearing down the Launch Bay building. Seems one step too far from being an actual possibility. If they re doing this makeover on the semi-cheap it doesn't seem like that would be in the cards when they can just stick a Spaceship 220 restaurant in there and make boat loads of money. It's also a really cool building aesthetically. I know people crap on it becasue nothing of value has been in there for years but they can do much worse and it would be right at home with the TL 67 makeover.

I totally agree. It's actually a very cool building. I don't know how useful/spacious the square-footage is (haven't been inside there in years, maybe decades). With the right use it is worth saving for sure (Space 220 makes a lot of sense). Btw, at least on Google Earth the square footage is similar to Soarin'. Any chance a Flight of Passage (different IP) type attraction could fit in here? I haven't been on FoP but people love it. Maybe too similar to Soarin', again haven't been on it.

 

[TheRealSkull]

I think using the Carrosuel theatre makes sense but im actually against removing the tracks from the middle of main walkway like the article mentions. Half of the charm of the PeopleMover is seeing those vehicles go in and out of the Star Tours and Buzz buildings. The astro orbitors placement is a way bigger issue than the People Mover track support columns.

Oh yeah I totally agree. The Astro Orbiter is a nightmare. I hate navigating big crowds through there. I do think the PeopleMover track currently works well as a divider between the left and right sides of Tomorrowland.

If they decide to demolish and fully rework a large portion of the land, I could see the layout functioning more like Walt Disney World’s Tomorrowland, with the PeopleMover track hugging the sides of the buildings rather than cutting through the center.

But if a new Tomorrowland retains the existing footprint, then I agree the PeopleMover would most likely continue running down the middle.

 

[mickEblu]

Oh yeah I totally agree. The Astro Orbiter is a nightmare. I hate navigating big crowds through there. I do think the PeopleMover track currently works well as a divider between the left and right sides of Tomorrowland.

If they decide to demolish and fully rework a large portion of the land, I could see the layout functioning more like Walt Disney World’s Tomorrowland, with the PeopleMover track hugging the sides of the buildings rather than cutting through the center.

But if a new Tomorrowland retains the existing footprint, then I agree the PeopleMover would most likely continue running down the middle.

My excitement for the PeopleMover will diminish by 50% if Astro Orbitor stays put and the track going down the main drag is removed. We need that old entrance back with PeopleMover going in and out of the buildings and weenie/ Astro Orbitor/ Rocket Jets up high on the platform. That’s the whole beauty of it. It’s like why even bother going the TL 67 route otherwise.

 

[TheRealSkull]

My excitement for the PeopleMover will diminish by 50% if Astro Orbitor stays put and the track going down the main drag is removed. We need that old entrance back with PeopleMover going in and out of the buildings and weenie/ Astro Orbitor/ Rocket Jets up high on the platform. That’s the whole beauty of it. It’s like why even bother going the TL 67 route otherwise.

I agree. I hope they do it. It just depends on if they feel like demoing the land and starting from scratch or not.

 

[Disney Irish]

My hope is they just demo the whole land leaving only SM and start from the ground up on a redo.

 

[mlayton144]

I totally agree. It's actually a very cool building. I don't know how useful/spacious the square-footage is (haven't been inside there in years, maybe decades). With the right use it is worth saving for sure (Space 220 makes a lot of sense). Btw, at least on Google Earth the square footage is similar to Soarin'. Any chance a Flight of Passage (different IP) type attraction could fit in here? I haven't been on FoP but people love it. Maybe too similar to Soarin', again haven't been on it.
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The FOP building is pretty massive for that area especially since the lines would be huge with nowhere to put the long queues as well as any theming/rock work to cover the large box.

 

[TP2000]

I was disgusted reading this OC Register article, but sadly I was not surprised. Not surprised at all.

This is no longer an entertainment company, with a crown jewel theme park, being run by showmen. The people running Disneyland specifically aren't even good hosts any more, much less good showmen. And their Burbank bosses are idiots.

This is an entertainment company, with a crown jewel theme park, now being run by accountants and humorless HR ladies.

Someone tap me on the shoulder when there's a massive coup d'etat in Burbank. Until then, there's no use even contemplating what to do with the Carousel Theater or the People mover track, because they clearly don't care.

Disney turned down Tomorrowland makeover proposed for Disneyland, report says

Disney executives calculated a Tomorrowland refurbishment would not do enough to increase Disneyland’s attendance, according to a new report.

www.ocregister.com

 

[coffeefan]

My hope is they just demo the whole land leaving only SM and start from the ground up on a redo.

I would agree depending on how TDL SM turns out.

 

[Figments Friend]

New Tomorrowland for 2026…?

One can dream.

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[Figments Friend]

I was disgusted reading this OC Register article, but sadly I was not surprised. Not surprised at all.

This is no longer an entertainment company, with a crown jewel theme park, being run by showmen. The people running Disneyland specifically aren't even good hosts any more, much less good showmen. And their Burbank bosses are idiots.

This is an entertainment company, with a crown jewel theme park, now being run by accountants and humorless HR ladies.

Someone tap me on the shoulder when there's a massive coup d'etat in Burbank. Until then, there's no use even contemplating what to do with the Carousel Theater or the People mover track, because they clearly don't care.

Disney turned down Tomorrowland makeover proposed for Disneyland, report says

Disney executives calculated a Tomorrowland refurbishment would not do enough to increase Disneyland’s attendance, according to a new report.

www.ocregister.com

Ditto.
I was disappointed to read that a Tomorrowland refresh was being considered, and then cut.

So close….and yet so far.

Let us hope that when it eventually DOES happen ( maybe for Disneyland’s 75th..? ) it shall be worth the wait.
We shall see…

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[mickEblu]

I was disgusted reading this OC Register article, but sadly I was not surprised. Not surprised at all.

This is no longer an entertainment company, with a crown jewel theme park, being run by showmen. The people running Disneyland specifically aren't even good hosts any more, much less good showmen. And their Burbank bosses are idiots.

This is an entertainment company, with a crown jewel theme park, now being run by accountants and humorless HR ladies.

Someone tap me on the shoulder when there's a massive coup d'etat in Burbank. Until then, there's no use even contemplating what to do with the Carousel Theater or the People mover track, because they clearly don't care.

Disney turned down Tomorrowland makeover proposed for Disneyland, report says

Disney executives calculated a Tomorrowland refurbishment would not do enough to increase Disneyland’s attendance, according to a new report.

www.ocregister.com

I agree with the sentiment but we all knew this no? Guess it always stings to get another confirmation.

 

[D.Silentu]

I’m chomping at the bit for a new Tomorrowland too. However, didn’t someone here claim that we lucked out the latest proposal was vetoed, being supposedly underwhelming? That would dovetail with articles citing company concern that the land’s refurbishment plans to date wouldn’t draw crowds.

 

[TheRealSkull]

I’m chomping at the bit for a new Tomorrowland too. However, didn’t someone here claim that we lucked out the latest proposal was vetoed, being supposedly underwhelming? That would dovetail with articles citing company concern that the land’s refurbishment plans to date wouldn’t draw crowds.

That was probably a light reskinning of the land. More band-aids...

 

[Stitchon]

I've been seeing $600 million as the number being thrown around for the project. Given how far money goes at Imagineering, i'm not sure $600 million would have amounted to much. My optimistic expectation would be *maybe* a Mission Breakout-style repurposing of Star Tours with a new theme/IP, a new film in the HISTA theater, something to replace the Innoventions building (i'm guessing TRON coaster variant), a new central tower with a new PeopleMover and Rocket Jets, and an aesthetic update elsewhere.

I'm fully on team "demolish literally everything except the actual Space Mountain building and start over."

 

[Phroobar]

I went into Launch Bay yesterday. All of the Star Wars exhibits and models are still there but covered with a thick layer of dust. The cast members where excited to see anyone come in. We went to see Darth Vader. He was great and the photo pass people where excellent. Lots of energy from them. They really should open that photo op to everyone.

 

[Nickm2022]

New Tomorrowland for 2026…?

One can dream.

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hopefully. I mean one thing I really liked about the article was one thing I personally hate is how quickly people blame WDI when the negative is a good 80% of the time the fault of execs and I appreciate the article bringing light to it. The bright side though is with Josh gunning for CEO it already seems like he's green lighting stuff left and right I could see him greenlighting this to get in good graces with fans and honestly if he does id love him for it

also something I realized. TL to Disneyland is what figment is to WDW.

 

[DrStarlander]

Some feel that any New TL will require a new E-ticket to make the numbers work. Some don't. If you feel it will, the next question is what the E-ticket will be. It could be an entirely new ride system (there are probably patents floating around and who knows what they could come up with). That would be exciting.

Or, common with Disney, it could be one of the newer, exciting ride systems featured in other resorts that is not yet at (or reportedly slated for) DLR -- perhaps with a new IP. Top contenders could be the TRON or Guardian coasters, Flight of Passage (though Soarin' is nearby), or the new Cars system in Piston Peak (but only if it's quite different than RSR). Any others?

For curiosity and speculation purposes, I wanted to see how the contenders mentioned above could fit into TL "proper" (which I'm saying is Lagoon-and-South for this exercise) even if only Space Mountain is retained and everything else was wiped clean (not necessary for all options). I took a few liberties in reconfiguring the show building parts to fit efficiently, and I also preserved the Railroad tracks. Here's TRON. Seems like it could create a neat area between TRON and SM.

Here's Guardians, maybe the load building can shrink down:

The issue with Guardians may be that the show building is 140-feet tall and Matterhorn is 147-feet, perhaps they can sink it into the ground 20-30 feet like Pirates is dug in:

Here's the comparison of MK's Cars ride with an area in TL:

Flight of Passage tucks in there almost entirely where the Autopia load area is, and the Launch Bay building could maybe be retained, maybe as queue space. I was surprised. I have no idea what IP could be used but it certainly wouldn't be terribly hard to fit in.

 

[Phroobar]

Disneyland shouldn't have others hand me downs.

 

[DrStarlander]

Disneyland shouldn't have others hand me downs.

I agree, I'd rather have very unique rides/systems for DL. Heck, DHS is getting the company's first suspended coaster, seems the crown jewel park deserves unique attractions too!