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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Nickm2022

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I think we will get one very cool pre-show Ala Hondo or B&TB from Tokyo or Symbolica. Namely the door ceremony is the natural inflection point of why we’re all coming into the house in the first place, gathered on the floor and looking upwards to the second level where the animatronics are. Projection mapping in the room, house effects. Could be spectacular.


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think this ride being about trying to understand and communicate w animals is awesome. Plus them going w indy in a mythical creature route is a nice revival of beastly kingdom ideas IMO
 

mlayton144

Well-Known Member
Haven’t followed this thread too closely recently. Question - are we 100% sure this is one of those trackless dark rides or is it possible that’s it’s a boat ride? Any actual statement from Disney on this? Thanks
 

Gremlin Gus

Well-Known Member
Haven’t followed this thread too closely recently. Question - are we 100% sure this is one of those trackless dark rides or is it possible that’s it’s a boat ride? Any actual statement from Disney on this? Thanks
According the rumors, the Encanto ride (I assume this is what you're talking about) is not trackless or a boat ride, it's rumored to be a ride system similar to Journey Into Imagination With Figment.
 

Pizza Moon

Active Member
I expect the attraction will mostly focus on the various members of the family (if not just a straight-up book report or a "takes place after (or in this case before) the movie but still rehashes it" ride). I have little faith in them making it fit Animal Kingdom.

I mean, you could have a Snow White ride that focuses on her animal friends, but it'd be weird to build a ride based on a beloved animated film but starring minor characters from it over Snow White, the Dwarves, etc. and I think Disney knows that.
The “takes place after the movie but still rehashes it” has to be the worst ride concept that’s ever existed.
 

Pizza Moon

Active Member
I have no faith in them doing that in a natural way.

See also Frozen Ever After, which takes place after the movie and yet has Elsa in her ice palace re-enacting the "Let It Go" scene for seemingly no reason.
The gap between Frozen: Ever After and Anna & Elsa’s Frozen Journey is so monumental it’s not even funny.

What’s wild is Tokyo DisneySea, despite having queue length issues, is literally the most impressive thematic park ever created, yet a park like HKDL, WDSP, EPCOT get a flawed D-ticket (arguably C just because of how weak its execution is) at best, and losing Maelstrom at EPCOT for it are all dumbfounding decisions.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
The “takes place after the movie but still rehashes it” has to be the worst ride concept that’s ever existed.
Frozen is an overlay that couldn’t satisfyingly rehash the plot given the existing infrastructure. Given the circumstances, I actually don’t think it’s that bad, and I don’t understand why people are so opposed to musical reprises as a means of telling a different story through familiar melodies. Where FEA goes wrong is in inexplicably resurrecting the ice palace and in not modifying Let It Go to the extent that the other songs are modified. If they just had you go through an ice-adorned Arendelle castle, rewrote a few more lines, and maybe did something more satisfying in the final room instead of In Summer, it’d work pretty well all things considered. That’s to say nothing of whether it should go where it is or have been retrofitted in the first place; I’m just commenting on the ability to work within the constraints.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
I have to question your sanity - from my experience before and after the refit, FEA gets tons more riders than maelstrom year after year, it’s not even close. How is that dumbfounding ?
Because no sane person would look at FEA and say, “Wow! That’s the best thing they could have done for Frozen!”. It was quick and cheap with minimal creative thought given.
 

Pizza Moon

Active Member
Frozen is an overlay that couldn’t satisfyingly rehash the plot given the existing infrastructure. Given the circumstances, I actually don’t think it’s that bad, and I don’t understand why people are so opposed to musical reprises as a means of telling a different story through familiar melodies. Where FEA goes wrong is in inexplicably resurrecting the ice palace and in not modifying Let It Go to the extent that the other songs are modified. If they just had you go through an ice-adorned Arendelle castle, rewrote a few more lines, and maybe did something more satisfying in the final room instead of In Summer, it’d work pretty well all things considered. That’s to say nothing of whether it should go where it is or have been retrofitted in the first place; I’m just commenting on the ability to work within the constraints.
It’s terrible and lazy. There’s no reason the Viking Village and Polar bear scenes look that bad.

There is also no world which it should’ve been cloned, for one of the largest IPs in existence, especially when OLC actually did it right.

It’s not like TWDC is incapable, I mean Cosmic Rewind is a world-class coaster, Mission: Breakout was a ridiculously well executed retheme. Test Track 3.0 was a huge upgrade over 2.0 as well.
 

Pizza Moon

Active Member
I have to question your sanity - from my experience before and after the refit, FEA gets tons more riders than maelstrom year after year, it’s not even close. How is that dumbfounding ?
It’s nowhere near as popular and bringing in new guests as it would’ve been if they had done it right, as Fantasy Springs shows. It’s a low capacity attraction, and poorly executed for what it is. The track extension opening Olaf scene is terrific though so I don’t hate it, it has some redeeming elements but is it really an improvement over Maelstrom? The queue sure, opening scene sure, the rest? Not at all. That’s besides the fact it’s a poor fit but since they opened the floodgates I’m down for Aladdin in Morocco.

It’s sort of like, if we can’t just fairly assess things we as the guest are the ones that are punished.

Also just because something is popular, doesn’t mean it can’t be heavily flawed…
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
The gap between Frozen: Ever After and Anna & Elsa’s Frozen Journey is so monumental it’s not even funny.

What’s wild is Tokyo DisneySea, despite having queue length issues, is literally the most impressive thematic park ever created, yet a park like HKDL, WDSP, EPCOT get a flawed D-ticket (arguably C just because of how weak its execution is) at best, and losing Maelstrom at EPCOT for it are all dumbfounding decisions.

Maelstrom was a developmental lifetime ago, when it was rushed (honestly fairly impressively for Disney) in less than three years from them realizing the movie was a smash success.

Arrendelle at Hong Kong is a much better land than Tokyos. So there’s that at least. It’s a better ride in Tokyo, but honestly not as much as it should have been. Then there are some choice improvements for Hong Kong that helped FEA.

FEA gets way too much unnecessary flack in my opinion…
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
It's the most popular song in the movie, no way they're not gonna have it in the attaction, its placement in the movie be darned.

Look at how they shoehorned "Let It Go" into Frozen Ever After even though it takes place after the movie.
Well they didn't give us Friends on the Other Side at Tiana's.
(I'm making a joke here.)
 

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