mlayton144
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Haven’t followed this thread too closely recently. Question - are we 100% sure this is one of those trackless dark rides or is it possible that’s it’s a boat ride? Any actual statement from Disney on this? Thanks
According the rumors, the Encanto ride (I assume this is what you're talking about) is not trackless or a boat ride, it's rumored to be a ride system similar to Journey Into Imagination With Figment.Haven’t followed this thread too closely recently. Question - are we 100% sure this is one of those trackless dark rides or is it possible that’s it’s a boat ride? Any actual statement from Disney on this? Thanks
According the rumors, the Encanto ride (I assume this is what you're talking about) is not trackless or a boat ride, it's rumored to be a ride system similar to Journey Into Imagination With Figment.
It was said earlier in the thread that it's believed to be a tracked ride with trains of cars. There are two cars per train, styled as furniture animated by Casita. Each car has two rows that seat 2-3, allowing for 8-12 per train.Nah… a ride on a track?
The “takes place after the movie but still rehashes it” has to be the worst ride concept that’s ever existed.I expect the attraction will mostly focus on the various members of the family (if not just a straight-up book report or a "takes place after (or in this case before) the movie but still rehashes it" ride). I have little faith in them making it fit Animal Kingdom.
I mean, you could have a Snow White ride that focuses on her animal friends, but it'd be weird to build a ride based on a beloved animated film but starring minor characters from it over Snow White, the Dwarves, etc. and I think Disney knows that.
I’m a fan. I think trackless rides tend to be flat and barren.Nah… a ride on a track?
The gap between Frozen: Ever After and Anna & Elsa’s Frozen Journey is so monumental it’s not even funny.I have no faith in them doing that in a natural way.
See also Frozen Ever After, which takes place after the movie and yet has Elsa in her ice palace re-enacting the "Let It Go" scene for seemingly no reason.
Frozen is an overlay that couldn’t satisfyingly rehash the plot given the existing infrastructure. Given the circumstances, I actually don’t think it’s that bad, and I don’t understand why people are so opposed to musical reprises as a means of telling a different story through familiar melodies. Where FEA goes wrong is in inexplicably resurrecting the ice palace and in not modifying Let It Go to the extent that the other songs are modified. If they just had you go through an ice-adorned Arendelle castle, rewrote a few more lines, and maybe did something more satisfying in the final room instead of In Summer, it’d work pretty well all things considered. That’s to say nothing of whether it should go where it is or have been retrofitted in the first place; I’m just commenting on the ability to work within the constraints.The “takes place after the movie but still rehashes it” has to be the worst ride concept that’s ever existed.
The ice palace reappears in the on-screen continuity as well where it becomes a home for marshmallow and later the snowgies. Elsa probably just fixed it for marshmallow between frozen and the short frozen fever.Where FEA goes wrong is in inexplicably resurrecting the ice palace
and losing Maelstrom at EPCOT for it are all dumbfounding decisions
Because no sane person would look at FEA and say, “Wow! That’s the best thing they could have done for Frozen!”. It was quick and cheap with minimal creative thought given.I have to question your sanity - from my experience before and after the refit, FEA gets tons more riders than maelstrom year after year, it’s not even close. How is that dumbfounding ?
General park goers seem to love it , even 9+ years after it openedBecause no sane person would look at FEA and say, “Wow! That’s the best thing they could have done for Frozen!”. It was quick and cheap with minimal creative thought given.
It’s terrible and lazy. There’s no reason the Viking Village and Polar bear scenes look that bad.Frozen is an overlay that couldn’t satisfyingly rehash the plot given the existing infrastructure. Given the circumstances, I actually don’t think it’s that bad, and I don’t understand why people are so opposed to musical reprises as a means of telling a different story through familiar melodies. Where FEA goes wrong is in inexplicably resurrecting the ice palace and in not modifying Let It Go to the extent that the other songs are modified. If they just had you go through an ice-adorned Arendelle castle, rewrote a few more lines, and maybe did something more satisfying in the final room instead of In Summer, it’d work pretty well all things considered. That’s to say nothing of whether it should go where it is or have been retrofitted in the first place; I’m just commenting on the ability to work within the constraints.
It’s nowhere near as popular and bringing in new guests as it would’ve been if they had done it right, as Fantasy Springs shows. It’s a low capacity attraction, and poorly executed for what it is. The track extension opening Olaf scene is terrific though so I don’t hate it, it has some redeeming elements but is it really an improvement over Maelstrom? The queue sure, opening scene sure, the rest? Not at all. That’s besides the fact it’s a poor fit but since they opened the floodgates I’m down for Aladdin in Morocco.I have to question your sanity - from my experience before and after the refit, FEA gets tons more riders than maelstrom year after year, it’s not even close. How is that dumbfounding ?
And they’ve cloned it twice when an even better ride exists.Because no sane person would look at FEA and say, “Wow! That’s the best thing they could have done for Frozen!”. It was quick and cheap with minimal creative thought given.
The gap between Frozen: Ever After and Anna & Elsa’s Frozen Journey is so monumental it’s not even funny.
What’s wild is Tokyo DisneySea, despite having queue length issues, is literally the most impressive thematic park ever created, yet a park like HKDL, WDSP, EPCOT get a flawed D-ticket (arguably C just because of how weak its execution is) at best, and losing Maelstrom at EPCOT for it are all dumbfounding decisions.
Well they didn't give us Friends on the Other Side at Tiana's.It's the most popular song in the movie, no way they're not gonna have it in the attaction, its placement in the movie be darned.
Look at how they shoehorned "Let It Go" into Frozen Ever After even though it takes place after the movie.
General park goers are...General park goers seem to love it , even 9+ years after it opened
. . . the lifeblood of Disney’s business.General park goers are...
I mean you can insult the general public as much as you want but the fact of the matter is, they make Disney World the #1 visited theme park destination in the world.General park goers are...
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