EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

[HMF]

Keep in mind too, the initial very clear signage pointing to where the Ride & Magic Eye Theatre was, to the left and right of the main “Journey Into Imagination” pavilion sign, was removed in favor of one near where the entrance to what’s now “The ImageWorks” & gift shop is. As I evidenced earlier in this thread in a ‘96 home video. On top of it, the new sign put Honey, I Shrunk the Audience on the top with it in clear bold red lettering, and the Journey Into Imagination ride was put on the bottom with a nearly translucent pink lettering, with a black and white drawing of Figment, on a weirdly darker shade of white aswell.

It's almost as if they already wanted to do JIYI in 1994 and they did that deliberately to make it happen eventually.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Keep in mind too, the initial very clear signage pointing to where the Ride & Magic Eye Theatre was, to the left and right of the main “Journey Into Imagination” pavilion sign, was removed in favor of one near where the entrance to what’s now “The ImageWorks” & gift shop is. As I evidenced earlier in this thread in a ‘96 home video. On top of it, the new sign put Honey, I Shrunk the Audience on the top with it in clear bold red lettering, and the Journey Into Imagination ride was put on the bottom with a nearly translucent pink lettering, with a black and white drawing of Figment, on a weirdly darker shade of white aswell.

They must've changed it recently.....

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

They must've changed it recently.....

That’s the replacement, clear to read sign I mentioned in my earlier post. Installed when JIYI opened in ‘99.

 

[HMF]

That’s the replacement, clear to read sign I mentioned in my earlier post. Installed when JIYI opened in ‘99.

The sad part is that the ride is now more of an attraction than what's in the Magic Eye at the moment though that speaks more to the blandness of what it's showing not a commentary on the quality of the ride.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

That’s the replacement, clear to read sign I mentioned in my earlier post. Installed when JIYI opened in ‘99.

I do realize that..But, the sad part is that sign doesn't even mention Figment in that one..That one tells me oooh something is better inside..

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

I do realize that..But, the sad part is that sign doesn't even mention Figment in that one..That one tells me oooh something is better inside..

That or they’re simply calling it “Journey Into Imagination” on that sign, yet again to pretend like it never was changed when it infact was, drastically. Then again, the current main pavilion sign outside also refers to it simply as “Journey Into Imagination” rather than “Journey Into Imagination With Figment” (as it’s been called since ‘02), most likely due to the space on the main pavilion sign. But.. at the same time, in ‘99-01, it did have the added “>YOUR” to the title, so yeah. I dunno Lol

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

A lot of things don’t make sense about the 99-01 & 02-current Honey, I Shrunk themed redos. And the closer & closer you look at all their details, the more & more you ask, “Why?” and so much is never answered, to this day.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Which is truly a shame since the original iteration made perfect sense and could be explained/understood easily upon experiencing it, not to mention was a very clear favorite and you could easily see why. The ill-conceived ‘99 & ‘02 changes made to it though? Nah. But then again, the folks in charge/involved with the changes haven’t been interviewed to give their explanations for the creative decisions made in them or what their experience working on them was yet, so… yeah.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Just recently read the Figment Golden Book to my son and forgot how much of a wonderful tribute it is to the original version of the attraction. I am lucky enough to have ridden the original when I was very young and I still can recall vague memories and feelings of being in that pavilion and how wonderful everything truly was there.

TDO please do right by ver 4!

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

So why are people uneasy with the original preshow Figment on a shirt ????

 

[Mike S]

So why are people uneasy with the original preshow Figment on a shirt ????

Funny, that’s my reaction to the design of the gift shop!

 

[jah4955]

Yeah, please move this towards the Figment thread please. But yeah, the ride being good again would only sell more merch. But Narcissist CEO Iger refuses to acknowledge that the ride wasn’t actually “fixed” in ‘02 and that the “return” is Infact a total farce/sham of a ride. All evidence practically points towards this, but alas.

Because of your gentle nudge I taught myself how to "transfer threads" (easier than I thought)!

Why does Iger care so much about 2002 if he wasn't the boss until 2005?

He can just blame Eisner & become the hero!

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Because of your gentle nudge I taught myself how to "transfer threads" (easier than I thought)!

Why does Iger care so much about 2002 if he wasn't the boss until 2005?

He can just blame Eisner & become the hero!

Cause he’s too obsessed with himself and taking others’ credit, apparently. That and intentionally lets others’ success get lost under hubris if it doesn’t fit with his revisionist history regarding the company’s assets. Classic narc behavior.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Funny, that’s my reaction to the design of the gift shop!

So, would you even have the same vibe if they had done one with the kitchen kabaret crew?

 

[HMF]

To be honest Iger completely misinterpreted why the DCA re-do was a success. His reasoning for the failure of the original DCA was because of lack of IP and characters when in reality the reason it failed was because it was basically Six Flags on a Disney budget. That's why parks where IP was not as much of a consideration EPCOT, DHS and now DAK are having all these IP-based attractions that really don't fit the themes of their respective parks are being forced in.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

So, would you even have the same vibe if they had done one with the kitchen kabaret crew?

For a shop called Creations, it honest to God should’ve featured all of EPCOT’s creations through the years including the ones currently in the park., along the walls, themed shelves, etc. I see no reason why you couldn’t have feature more thematic elements dedicated to park icons and characters and maybe Mickey & Minnie in either World Showcase traveler or their silver rainbow space suits. Instead they went with the most uninspired design they possibly could could’ve. Far too minimalist. Always baffled me, that design aesthetic, particularly at the DisneyParks because the whole point is to immerse you in theme. Even the Centorium did this better with some of its theming. It certainly wasn’t perfect but that’s really no excuse for not going out of their way to make it more thematically cohesive. Who knows though, I have a hunch, ‘because’ the current design is so minimalist, that can allow for a ton more plussing of theming and redesigning in the near future. They’re gonna want more & more reasons for folks to come back to the DisneyParks, and things like that could absolutley bring folks back in.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Possibly another fun solution would’ve been to create a new, unique EPCOT character for the shop that specialized in creating new & innovative merch. This also could create some fun ways to promote new & highlight must-haves and new items as they come in. Create new little skits and things for that. Maybe through the use of audio-animatronics & projection mapping? I could see that as a possibility.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

So why are people uneasy with the original preshow Figment on a shirt ????

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that people aren’t used to seeing full blown audio-animatronic figure photos or props on merchandise and are mostly used to seeing more stylized/animated appearances of everything on these pieces usually. I don’t have an issue with it myself, but yeah

 

[jah4955]

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that people aren’t used to seeing full blown audio-animatronic figure photos or props on merchandise and are mostly used to seeing more stylized/animated appearances of everything on these pieces usually. I don’t have an issue with it myself, but yeah

alot of them were never meant to be seen up-close. Since childhood I suspected that was a reason why they (used to say) "no photography."

 

[Rodj]

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that people aren’t used to seeing full blown audio-animatronic figure photos or props on merchandise and are mostly used to seeing more stylized/animated appearances of everything on these pieces usually. I don’t have an issue with it myself, but yeah

Part of it to me is that the faces of the animatronics in the original ride(or at least the opening scene) seem to be more “realistic” looking than even the current JIIwF animatronics. When you look at them side by side with the JIIwF animatronics, it is off looking IMO.