New Tomorrowland @ Disneyland? Is this the year it finally gets announced? No, and that’s OK

[Phroobar]

I guess that explains a lot. The TL Star Wars redo was definitely a low budget project than. It'd look much better without having all those ships.

I remember Micechat claiming autopia and the submarines would go for an endor speeder bike attraction. Those areas do both seem to be missing from this concept art.

I would rather have an Endor speeder bike coaster than a Tron coaster. They are pretty much the same rail coaster. Imagine dodging trees outside. Maybe they can hide the rail like the DK coaster does.

 

[DLR92]

Your saying nuke the pace from orbit and start over with a new modern Space Mountain and some other stuff. I can get behind that. I always thought that a mini future world would work but a sci-fi fantasyland might be cool. Problem is there are no successful IPs for Disney to use. I don't want an Alien/Predator land and Disney doesn't do creative non ip lands anymore. Too bad they are sticking Avatar in DCA. That would have been a great replacement for the Autopia/Lagoon.

Yes, I want to see the land refreshed completely. Give some new edge for Disneyland.
I feel Buzz and Star Tours should be let go. Autopia is a parcel that ripe for a new land or fantasyland expansion.

I really don’t want to see any IP driven in the parks. Sadly that the U.S. mentality of doing business. I also wish Disney would allow imagineers have full reign on creativity.

Mystic Manor and Grizzly Gulch are prime examples of modern creativity that are not IP driven. I would say OLC commission on a their new Space Mountain for Tokyo Disneyland is kinda making me jealous.

 

[DLR92]

I’m adding the LucasPort concept for Disneyland Tomorrowland.

I’m beyond intrigued of this old proposed Star Wars attraction roller coaster. Makes me wish I stick with my career desires to go with imagineering. I would pitch for Disney to redo Space Mountain with this scene but with a dying star.

 

[Nickm2022]

My cheaper pitch. demo buzz and star tours, make a big FF ride as the entrance and also a new Peoplemover, and then move Astro Orbs over in the back near the old COP building. and heck if you want give me a Wall-E ride or sm

 

[Phroobar]

Marvel heroes and toons don't belong in Tomorrowland.

A vista into a world of wondrous ideas, signifying man's achievement, a step into the future with predictions of constructive things to come. Tomorrow offers new frontiers in science, adventure, and ideals -- the atomic age, the challenge of outer space, and the hope for a peaceful and unified world.

That is what Tomorrowland is all about Charlie Brown.

 

[Disney Irish]

Marvel heroes and toons don't belong in Tomorrowland.

A vista into a world of wondrous ideas, signifying man's achievement, a step into the future with predictions of constructive things to come. Tomorrow offers new frontiers in science, adventure, and ideals -- the atomic age, the challenge of outer space, and the hope for a peaceful and unified world.

That is what Tomorrowland is all about Charlie Brown.

The problem is that was always an idealized version of a tomorrow that never came. As when you try to devote resources to a land built around “tomorrow” you have to constantly update it because tomorrow always becomes yesterday pretty quickly. And that is not something Disney is probably willing to do with a $1B refresh every 10 years or so.

Besides the tomorrow that is coming is AI driven you really want a land devoted to that?

 

[Nickm2022]

The problem is that was always an idealized version of a tomorrow that never came. As when you try to devote resources to a land built around “tomorrow” you have to constantly update it because tomorrow always becomes yesterday pretty quickly. And that is not something Disney is probably willing to do with a $1B refresh every 10 years or so.

Besides the tomorrow that is coming is AI driven you really want a land devoted to that?

personally feel Disneyland's Tomorrowland should just be like a sci-fi land. like how fantasyland is for all fantasy films. id also argue TL is just to big and should be smaller

 

[mickEblu]

I’m adding the LucasPort concept for Disneyland Tomorrowland.
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I’m beyond intrigued of this old proposed Star Wars attraction roller coaster. Makes me wish I stick with my career desires to go with imagineering. I would pitch for Disney to redo Space Mountain with this scene but with a dying star.

Well let’s see what they do with Tokyo’s Space Mointain. That should be a good indication of what’s possible for the attraction.

 

[J4546]

i really wish theyd get rid of buzz lightyear astro blasters and replace it with a wall e trashtro blaster

 

[Disney Irish]

personally feel Disneyland's Tomorrowland should just be like a sci-fi land. like how fantasyland is for all fantasy films.

They sort of already tried to do that with the TL98 redo, its why everything is IPified now minus SM.

id also argue TL is just to big and should be smaller

I don't think anyone would argue that, if anything some would argue it needs to be bigger since its one of the most popular lands in the Park.

 

[mickEblu]

i really wish theyd get rid of buzz lightyear astro blasters and replace it with a wall e trashtro blaster

That’s the problem with Wall e. The settings leave a bit to be desired. Dystopian wasteland or sterile space cruise ship. The only thing from the movie I’d want to experience is Wall e and EVE flying through space which doesn’t really lend itself to a small scale dark ride. Wall e should just be a meet n greet character like the robot from the last Fantastic 4

 

[Phroobar]

Again cute characters that Disney Adults can coo over should never be in a land dedicated to humanity's future. It never ends well. See Stitch's Great Escape.

A small Epcot Center Future World is the only acceptable alternative to keep with Walt's original vision.

 

[truecoat]

That’s the problem with Wall e. The settings leave a bit to be desired. Dystopian wasteland or sterile space cruise ship. The only thing from the movie I’d want to experience is Wall e and EVE flying through space which doesn’t really lend itself to a small scale dark ride. Wall e should just be a meet n greet character like the robot from the last Fantastic 4

You could have Wall e and Eve flying around space while you blast space trash and errant satellites.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

The problem is that was always an idealized version of a tomorrow that never came. As when you try to devote resources to a land built around “tomorrow” you have to constantly update it because tomorrow always becomes yesterday pretty quickly. And that is not something Disney is probably willing to do with a $1B refresh every 10 years or so.

Besides the tomorrow that is coming is AI driven you really want a land devoted to that?

This is why I've always felt the best move is to not actually try for a land that predicts the future, but is instead themed to retrofuturism with an emphasis on more out of the box things rather than real life practical advancements. A retrofuturism themed explicitly to science fiction rather than science fact.

We sort of kind of have that now, but by accident and without intentionality. An aesthetic refresh of the buildings, nixing Buzz, Autopia, and the subs in favor of new attractions, and all of that with more purposeful aesthetic and thematic approach would be pretty evergreen imo.

Stick to the idea of what the days of the past thought the future would be, rather than what it became, or what it could be from our position in time.

 

[Disney Irish]

This is why I've always felt the best move is to not actually try for a land that predicts the future, but is instead themed to retrofuturism with an emphasis on more out of the box things rather than real life practical advancements. A retrofuturism themed explicitly to science fiction rather than science fact.

We sort of kind of have that now, but by accident and without intentionality. An aesthetic refresh of the buildings, nixing Buzz, Autopia, and the subs in favor of new attractions, and all of that with more purposeful aesthetic and thematic approach would be pretty evergreen imo.

Stick to the idea of what the days of the past thought the future would be, rather than what it became, or what it could be from our position in time.

I agree, and have said similar here before. This is why some have leaned into having a revival of TL67 as a retheme, or more a spiritual successor of sorts that leans into the retrofuturistic theming.

 

[Parteecia]

Move Star Tours. Bring back Inner Space.

 

[waltography]

Move Star Tours. Bring back Inner Space.

My heart's set on an F4 takeover of Tomorrowland sponsored by the Future Foundation. I really fell in love with the retro future aesthetic in that movie, and I think it'd be a great way to sneak in Tomorrowland 66 if it has to tie into the IP mandate.

 

[britain]

Again cute characters that Disney Adults can coo over should never be in a land dedicated to humanity's future. It never ends well. See Stitch's Great Escape.

A small Epcot Center Future World is the only acceptable alternative to keep with Walt's original vision.

As a thought experiment, however, I choose to take the "mini-EPCOT" option off the table because The Magic Kingdom doesn't have that option. They already have full-blown EPCOT over there. So, while a mini-EPCOT could be a solution to Disneyland's problems, I feel like it's a cheat. It still leaves the whole "How to design a Tomorrowland that has appeal but also stands the test of time?" question unanswered for MK's Tomorrowland.

 

[Phroobar]

This Jurassic World Flyers ride would make a great replacement for Tomorrowland's People Mover. It's not fast but could go though the buildings and be suspended above the park. They could be themed to rocket packs or some futuristic bus.

 

[Disney Irish]

This Jurassic World Flyers ride would make a great replacement for Tomorrowland's People Mover. It's not fast but could go though the buildings and be suspended above the park. They could be themed to rocket packs or some futuristic bus.

If you're going to do that you might as well just put in Tron.