DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

The project will not be complete until 2028.

Lying is bad.

 

[monothingie]

Do you not understand what I’m referring to or are you just intentionally trying to act confused. Actual development timelines between Disney and Universal are not materially different. Announcing a project early in design phase is going to seem much different than announcing one ready to start or already under construction.

You sure you're running with that? I know 100% that the process at WDI is significantly more complicated and loaded with bureaucratic red tape.

Interesting of you to imply that reskinning dinosaur will take 4 years when the attraction hasn’t even closed yet.

Tropical Americans is expected to open in 2027.

My very reliable understanding from people with much more knowledge than you is that Encanto will open in 2027 with Indy following into 2028.

 

[Chi84]

Do you not understand what I’m referring to or are you just intentionally trying to act confused. Actual development timelines between Disney and Universal are not materially different. Announcing a project early in design phase is going to seem much different than announcing one ready to start or already under construction.

Interesting of you to imply that reskinning dinosaur will take 4 years when the attraction hasn’t even closed yet.

Tropical Americans is expected to open in 2027.

Dino is scheduled to close in early 2026 and Tropical Americas is scheduled to open in 2027.

How is anyone getting 4 years?

 

[monothingie]

It's like you know what you're saying is baseless, so you just redirect to something else every single time. I didn't say the rides were the most advanced ever or that their complexity matched Rise. I said that any attraction of a given complexity takes roughly the same amount of time to build whether it is being built as an addition or in the context of a larger full-park project.

The hype was for a trackless complex ride, people even threw out that it would be boat based.

It's tracked ride with screens and AA's. Nothing revolutionary.

 

[James Alucobond]

The hype was for a trackless complex ride, people even threw out that it would be boat based.

It's tracked ride with screens and AA's. Nothing revolutionary.

Still has absolutely zero to do with what I said.

 

[peter11435]

Well 5 is less than 6. I'm sorry that counting is hard for you.

I was referring the attractions 3 year construction timeline being half of 6 years.

MK, the monorail system, and 2 hotels were only built in around 2 years.
Epcot only took 3 years.
DAK was also around 3 years.
DLP was 3.5 years.
Shanghai was 5 years.

There you go with more arbitrary timelines. WDW was announced in 1965 and groundbreaking took place in 1967. Over 4 years before the property would open.

You’re conveniently ignoring the years of planning and development that took place before any of those parks started construction. And misrepresenting the comparison between building a park and building an attraction/land.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Lying is bad.

Not that I agree with everything but it could easily be really close to or in 2028 when it’s actually “complete”

Im guessing they are hoping to have it ready for the busy holiday season in 2027. But if one thing gets delayed - the entire land may not be ready yet.

That’s all crystal ball madame leota stuff haha

 

[Chi84]

My very reliable understanding from people with much more knowledge than you is that Encanto will open in 2027 with Indy following into 2028.

If you are unable to support this in any way you shouldn’t be making this argument.

 

[peter11435]

You sure you're running with that? I know 100% that the process at WDI is significantly more complicated and loaded with bureaucratic red tape.

I’m referring to overall construction timelines. There’s plenty of examples to prove my point.

My very reliable understanding from people with much more knowledge than you is that Encanto will open in 2027 with Indy following into 2028.

Based on many of your prior arguments I’m more than well aware that your sources lack the knowledge and understanding you seem to think they process.

But if you look at the dates you just typed you’ll see that encanto would be about 3 years of construction. And Dinosaur 2. Certainly not the half decade / 4 years for a reskin you previously claimed.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Not that I agree with everything but it could easily be really close to or in 2028 when it’s actually “complete”

Im guessing they are hoping to have it ready for the busy holiday season in 2027. But if one thing gets delayed - the entire land may not be ready yet.

That’s all crystal ball madame leota stuff haha

Broken clocks and whatnot. We don’t need to acknowledge when bad faith and false comments graze the truth. There’s no benefit to such validation.

 

[Gremlin Gus]

 

[mattpeto]

Broken clocks and whatnot. We don’t need to acknowledge when bad faith and false comments graze the truth. There’s no benefit to such validation.

Exactly.

And what incentive does Disney have here to delay opening the land? This is the first of many projects. This new land is going to create "intent to visit".

They will also likely want to create spacing between this opening and whatever their next one is (guessing Monstropolis) for marketing reasons.

Good faith is what Disney said: the whole land opens in 2027.

 

[Agent H]

Not that I agree with everything but it could easily be really close to or in 2028 when it’s actually “complete”

Im guessing they are hoping to have it ready for the busy holiday season in 2027. But if one thing gets delayed - the entire land may not be ready yet.

That’s all crystal ball madame leota stuff haha

sure it could but the poster didn’t present it as mere speculation. They presented it as immutable fact.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Good faith is what Disney said: the whole land opens in 2027.

Eh…. I like to have a little evidence for my faith. Jkjk

 

[BrianLo]

Groundbreaking on Encanto started this year, I’m a bit confused where 2024 is coming from.

Tropical Americas Breaks Ground at Disney's Animal Kingdom: Construction Officially Begins

Tropical Americas Breaks Ground at Disney's Animal Kingdom: Construction Officially Begins

www.wdwmagic.com

The timeline has always been under 3 years (but presumably quite close to 34-35 months), which contrary to the argument being made, I’ve always thought was rather tight for Disney.

 

[ToTBellHop]

You all are being horribly unfair attacking a poster for suggesting Dino closing in 2026 and Indy opening in 2027 is a 4-year project. Have you stopped to consider the poster may be a cat? No. Because you only think of yourself.

 

[jah4955]

I was referring the attractions 3 year construction timeline being half of 6 years.

There you go with more arbitrary timelines. WDW was announced in 1965 and groundbreaking took place in 1967. Over 4 years before the property would open.

You’re conveniently ignoring the years of planning and development that took place before any of those parks started construction. And misrepresenting the comparison between building a park and building an attraction/land.

WDW was announced in (late) 1965 ONLY b/c Disney was just "outed" to be the "Mystery Buyer." It was part spin, part "damage control."

The plan was no announcement until sometime after they secured the rest of the land they wanted.

Which may have been a blessing in disguise..... because if the public didn't know it was Disney before Walt's death the next year, the company may had simply "cut their losses."

BECAUSE

The company realized it was mostly swamp with no infrastructure.

For example (I always bring receipts )

Walt EXPLODED at Joe Fowler when he was told just one of the needed canals would cost $1 million (1966 dollars; over $10 million today's $s). Walt didn't give a d*mn for cost at that point, he just wanted his city ASAP.

(nb: they "made up" before he died...he also reached out to several people he had rifts with right before his passing b/c he knew his death was immanent...Ken Anderson and Bill Peet were two other examples)

Disney needed 3 years to just make the land "buildable."

That's why there's frustration today. I'm not saying that justifies it, but frustration is indeed based on perception. For current AK & HS projects (like it was for most recently EPCOT) land was, for the most part, already buildable...at least it was no longer swamp.

I understand/understood that the "land prep" was/is more daunting for "Frontireland"/Villians site.

But, conversely, the perception has also been exasperated because it seems that Disney's arch-rival keeps plowing-through its construction projects at warp speed.

 

[DCBaker]

Might be old news - but the original Indiana jones movies were taken off of Disney+

To follow up on this, Disney says the four movies will be back on Disney+ on January 1.

 

[Unbanshee]

To follow up on this, Disney says the four movies will be back on Disney+ on January 1.

This has been standard the past two years, right? Indy goes to Prime Video for the final quarter of the year and then returns to Disney+ for Jan - Sept?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

We go the “knower of all things…master of no details” on the case round here?