lazyboy97o
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Good job ignoring the years of work that occurred before the announcement.
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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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Apples to Apples. Disney announced in 2023.
They are expecting completion in 2028 for 1 ride and 1 reskin of an existing ride.
Also USO had to deal with Covid and supply chain issues.
Disney does not.
James Alucobond
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Things of similar complexity individually take the same total amount of time to build whether they are all worked on in parallel (as is necessarily the case in an entirely new park) or are staggered (as is more frequently the case when making modifications or additions to a suite of already-operating parks).
Horizons '83
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Encanto broke ground what in late 2024? That is when the construction clock really starts in my book. So its been roughly a year?
EU was announced in 2019.
Tropical Americas was announced in 2023.
Announcement to Opening is the only fair comparison.
You can use that excuse with new Epcot because it took place literally in the middle of a fully operational theme park.
But developments like Guardians, Tron, SWGE, Monsters Land, and Tropical Americas were/are completely or mostly separated from guest interaction.
Dranth
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That doesn't make sense. For example, Uni ANNOUCNED VelociCoaster late 2020, even though they filed the first permit back in spring 2018. So, according to your measurement it took less than a year for that ride even though they spent years planning, a year and a half clearing land and two years building it.
You are right that Disney is often slow, but because companies handle the announcements differently, the only real comparison we can make is ground breaking to finish.
James Alucobond
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I didn't say anything about the added complexities of building in the middle of a park. I said a highly complex ride takes the same amount of time to build whether it is being built in a staggered pattern with other additions throughout the parks (as at Disney at the moment) or concurrently with a bunch of other new things (as with Epic Universe when it was being built).
This is not a highly complex ride like ROTR.
It looks to be a track ride with screens and some AAs, the other is a reskin of an existing ride system.
jah4955
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"shovels in the ground" --Bruce Vaughn, August 2024
lazyboy97o
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That’s not apples to apples, or even the right timeframes. But you can’t even get a name right, so I guess it’s asking for a lot.
James Alucobond
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It's like you know what you're saying is baseless, so you just redirect to something else every single time. I didn't say the rides were the most advanced ever or that their complexity matched Rise. I said that any attraction of a given complexity takes roughly the same amount of time to build whether it is being built as an addition or in the context of a larger full-park project.
peter11435
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I had no idea that a decade was less than 6 years.
How many rides have you developed and built?
This is not an unusual time line.
lazyboy97o
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Even this isn’t a real comparison because different project delivery strategies can have you breaking ground at different points on the entire process.
peter11435
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That’s probably the least fair comparison because projects are not announced at the same point in the development phase. But you already know that and are simply using that to prove a point you’re fabricating.
Dranth
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True, but we don't have access to anything except what we can see, so with that in mind, it is the "best" measurement we have except for the rare occasion where some trusted insider can provide more insight.
As long as people understand it is flawed, I don't mind it being used as a comparative to highlight the differences in how companies handle projects.
Horizons '83
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Disagree with you there. Shovels in ground is when I'd start the clock. I was corrected, it appears August of 2024 was when they broke ground.
Why because Disney can't develop and build anything in a timely fashion from when they announce it? That's why it's unfair?
But let's go with that anyway. Site prep started in 2024. The project will not be complete until 2028. That is AT LEAST 4 years to build 1 ride and reskin another. But good news, they got the voice actors to record their lines!
peter11435
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Do you not understand what I’m referring to or are you just intentionally trying to act confused. Actual development timelines between Disney and Universal are not materially different. Announcing a project early in design phase is going to seem much different than announcing one ready to start or already under construction.
Interesting of you to imply that reskinning dinosaur will take 4 years when the attraction hasn’t even closed yet.
Tropical Americans is expected to open in 2027.
Well 5 is less than 6. I'm sorry that counting is hard for you.
MK, the monorail system, and 2 hotels were only built in around 2 years.
Epcot only took 3 years.
DAK was also around 3 years.
DLP was 3.5 years.
Shanghai was 5 years.