Pi on my Cake
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The Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread
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Mr. Sullivan
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i’ve only got a few more movies to watch and then I can finally make my top 10 favorites of the year, top 10 least favorites of the year, and I can even make a top 5 most disappointing of the year. Watch this space.
i’ve never really flexed my cinephile miss in this section before even though film is what I’m pursuing professionally. I think it’s time.
@PerGron How all this time have we never discussed our mutual cinephileness
i’ve never really flexed my cinephile miss in this section before even though film is what I’m pursuing professionally. I think it’s time.
@PerGron How all this time have we never discussed our mutual cinephileness
AceAstro
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Jacobi Jupe should win best supporting actor smh that movie was stunning through and through. Not a dry eye in my theatre afterwards
TheOriginalTiki
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It feels like misery p*rn to me and I legitimately don't know if I'm mentally prepared to even handle it. Is it more than just "child dies = sad"?
Anyways, my November was all the hell over the place because of trip preparation, so it ended up being one of the lighter months of the year for me. I didn't end up catching Eternity, Knives Out, Rental Family, Nuremberg, among others. It Was Just an Accident had a very limited spot in the art house theater a few towns away from me. That same theater is fortunately still playing Sentimental Value so I definitely want to make it a point to catch that this weekend. Anyways, out of the stuff I did see...
8. Predator: Badlands
My first and only Predator movie. It wasn't bad, it just kind of fell off after the first half. I legitimately kind of loved everything until the Grogu stand-in got introduced. The first 10 minutes or where it was just the Predator family was really cool and very much reminded me of the Matt Reeves Apes films. I even loved the introduction to Elle Fanning's character because it was a super cool environmental danger set piece. Unfortunately that character really got on my nerves and is the exact kind of comic relief I don't attach to.
The bigger problem was the film completely jumps off a cliff in the second half when the setting goes from a super cool, Pandora-level alien planet to boring military base. Considering my annoyance with the Ell Fanning character and the Grogu stand in, by the time the film actually ended there was barely anything for me to actually latch on to. Certainly some good elements and I generally think the film I have above this has lower lows, but it also has more consistent highs.
7. The Running Man
Not a terrible movie, but a VERY generic one by Edgar Wright standards. It's hard to believe this was written by the same dude who gave us the Cornetto trilogy, as the character motivation stuff is just painfully cookie cutter. Glenn Powell genuinely feels like he has no idea if his character is supposed to be a sympathetic family man or an unhinged loose canon, and so he just kind of does...both, in a half hearted way. The big stand outs here are Josh Brolin and Coleman Domingo. Brolin is basically just coasting on Thanos charisma but his character is one of the few with any real depth, and Domingo is absolutely the MVP here and a total scene stealer. I'd be all the hell over Michael Cera's role if his inclusion didn't feel so random, but I at least loved his deranged mother which was one of the few things in the movie that felt authentically Stephen King.
Much like Badlands, the movie falls off a cliff at a certain point. Shoehorning in a female lead that were supposed to actively care about 20 minutes before the ending is just ridiculously sloppy storytelling. If the Golden Tikis had a "Worst Ending" category, this would honestly be a shoe in. It's a shame because there is stuff to like here. I think the world building is genuinely good and Wright's style is there in certain moments, it's just a film that gets dragged way the hell down by the writing which is genuinely baffling considering that's usually one of Wright's strongest elements. I feel like this, Baby Driver, and Last Night in Soho all kind of fall off a cliff at a certain point in the third act, but this is certainly the weakest of his post-Scott Pilgrim "trilogy".
6. Die My Love
I definitely liked this a lot more than PerGron did, but it's A LOT to take in. It's got hands down the best Jennifer Lawrence performance I've ever seen. My god, she gives EVERYTHING to this role and having dated a couple women with BPD I've gotta just be honest and say parts of her performance, while slightly exaggerated, were still SCARY realistic. I think this is a movie that is just a bit too "art house" for its own good. It's got a very repetitive, abrasive tone to the whole thing and is an actively unpleasant viewing experience and very intentionally. It's not going to end up in my top 20, but it was still pretty memorable for me and I'm glad I saw it. We'll have to see how December shakes up but I wouldn't be surprised if J-Law snuck into one of my wild card Best Actress nomination slots.
5. Zootopia 2
It's just kind of...baseline good? It's definitely NOT the trainwreck that something like Ralph Breaks the Internet or Frozen 2 is, but at the same time I didn't really feel much about it one way or another. It's got a great kinetic energy and pace to it, I guess I just didn't land with a lot of the emotional beats. I honestly thought they tried a bit too hard to make Gary sympathetic to the point where I felt it was borderline emotionally manipulative. I pretty much hated the otter podcaster character and once again found her to be the worst kind of comic relief. I also thought the screen time distribution was a bit all over the place, with most of the memorable characters from the first movie coming in for just quick little cameos. It felt very similar to Finding Dory in this regard. It's still hands down the best WDAS movie since Encanto, but that's obviously not a very high bar to clear and I just didn't find it to be all that memorable. I know I'm an outlier here.
4. Sisu: Road to Revenge
Outside of my initial "it's not an Oscar movie and it's a sequel to a movie I haven't seen" disappointment at the surprise screening, I definitely think Road to Revenge is one of the absolute most successful post-Fury Road action movies that tries to emulate that film's "feature length chase scene" style. It honestly felt more like a spiritual successor to Fury Road than Furiosa did. I ended up finding it really memorable, with some obviously great action set pieces and a super compelling lead character at the center of it. I had to laugh at how funny the timing is considering how close the last Visions Fantastic project ended up turning into a full blown "Killing Nazis" theme park. I also love the plot device of the main character carrying his whole freaking family home in the back of his truck and thought that element of the movie made for really great, consistent moments of micro-tension. It's not the most substantial thing in the world but it does have a super cathartic, emotional ending and is overall just a damn good time at the movies.
3. Wicked: For Good
Yep..it's pretty much Wicked act two exactly. While I'm a bit disappointed that the movie didn't course correct the wonky rapid fire pacing of the source material, I'd be lying if I said I didn't find this thing super watchable. Maybe this is a hot take but I actually found the cinematography a lot less washed out than the first movie. The problem is that the musical numbers are a lot less dynamic. Lots of "characters standing around singing to each other" scenes. Take the choreography of the first film and the cinematography of this film and it would have been perfect.
That being said the two leads are obviously still fantastic (even with the press tour weirdness kind of clouding that) and the production design continues to be absolutely incredible. These movies are just BEGGING to be turned into a theme park land. "Wonderful" is hands down my favorite scene in the movie and kind of worth the price of admission in its own right. I also love just how much "weird little creep" energy Spongebob continues to have, and I find that character's abrupt villain turn unintentionally hilarious. I also have a lot of friends who REALLY resonated with this one, so that very much colors my view of it.
2. Jay Kelly
Easily up there with Punch Drunk Love and Uncut Gems in the "Oh man, Adam Sandler can be a FANTASTIC actor when he actually tries" category. I really liked this one a lot. I found the meditation on legacy, death, and how certain choices can impact other people to be really meaningful. I loved Billy Crudup's brief role and kind of wish more of the movie revolved around that dynamic instead of just being a plot catalyst. The thing with this movie is that it's also very much a "Hollywood patting itself on the back" movie and with that in mind I actually think George Clooney is the weakest element of it. He's basically just playing himself, but not in a compelling, meta way like Keaton in Birdman. Sandler is absolutely the heart and soul of this movie and THE reason to see it, and his character arc alone elevates this to one of the best of the month. Once again it probably won't end up in my top 20 but it absolutely had a lot of standout elements to it.
My first and only Predator movie. It wasn't bad, it just kind of fell off after the first half. I legitimately kind of loved everything until the Grogu stand-in got introduced. The first 10 minutes or where it was just the Predator family was really cool and very much reminded me of the Matt Reeves Apes films. I even loved the introduction to Elle Fanning's character because it was a super cool environmental danger set piece. Unfortunately that character really got on my nerves and is the exact kind of comic relief I don't attach to.
The bigger problem was the film completely jumps off a cliff in the second half when the setting goes from a super cool, Pandora-level alien planet to boring military base. Considering my annoyance with the Ell Fanning character and the Grogu stand in, by the time the film actually ended there was barely anything for me to actually latch on to. Certainly some good elements and I generally think the film I have above this has lower lows, but it also has more consistent highs.
7. The Running Man
Not a terrible movie, but a VERY generic one by Edgar Wright standards. It's hard to believe this was written by the same dude who gave us the Cornetto trilogy, as the character motivation stuff is just painfully cookie cutter. Glenn Powell genuinely feels like he has no idea if his character is supposed to be a sympathetic family man or an unhinged loose canon, and so he just kind of does...both, in a half hearted way. The big stand outs here are Josh Brolin and Coleman Domingo. Brolin is basically just coasting on Thanos charisma but his character is one of the few with any real depth, and Domingo is absolutely the MVP here and a total scene stealer. I'd be all the hell over Michael Cera's role if his inclusion didn't feel so random, but I at least loved his deranged mother which was one of the few things in the movie that felt authentically Stephen King.
Much like Badlands, the movie falls off a cliff at a certain point. Shoehorning in a female lead that were supposed to actively care about 20 minutes before the ending is just ridiculously sloppy storytelling. If the Golden Tikis had a "Worst Ending" category, this would honestly be a shoe in. It's a shame because there is stuff to like here. I think the world building is genuinely good and Wright's style is there in certain moments, it's just a film that gets dragged way the hell down by the writing which is genuinely baffling considering that's usually one of Wright's strongest elements. I feel like this, Baby Driver, and Last Night in Soho all kind of fall off a cliff at a certain point in the third act, but this is certainly the weakest of his post-Scott Pilgrim "trilogy".
6. Die My Love
I definitely liked this a lot more than PerGron did, but it's A LOT to take in. It's got hands down the best Jennifer Lawrence performance I've ever seen. My god, she gives EVERYTHING to this role and having dated a couple women with BPD I've gotta just be honest and say parts of her performance, while slightly exaggerated, were still SCARY realistic. I think this is a movie that is just a bit too "art house" for its own good. It's got a very repetitive, abrasive tone to the whole thing and is an actively unpleasant viewing experience and very intentionally. It's not going to end up in my top 20, but it was still pretty memorable for me and I'm glad I saw it. We'll have to see how December shakes up but I wouldn't be surprised if J-Law snuck into one of my wild card Best Actress nomination slots.
5. Zootopia 2
It's just kind of...baseline good? It's definitely NOT the trainwreck that something like Ralph Breaks the Internet or Frozen 2 is, but at the same time I didn't really feel much about it one way or another. It's got a great kinetic energy and pace to it, I guess I just didn't land with a lot of the emotional beats. I honestly thought they tried a bit too hard to make Gary sympathetic to the point where I felt it was borderline emotionally manipulative. I pretty much hated the otter podcaster character and once again found her to be the worst kind of comic relief. I also thought the screen time distribution was a bit all over the place, with most of the memorable characters from the first movie coming in for just quick little cameos. It felt very similar to Finding Dory in this regard. It's still hands down the best WDAS movie since Encanto, but that's obviously not a very high bar to clear and I just didn't find it to be all that memorable. I know I'm an outlier here.
4. Sisu: Road to Revenge
Outside of my initial "it's not an Oscar movie and it's a sequel to a movie I haven't seen" disappointment at the surprise screening, I definitely think Road to Revenge is one of the absolute most successful post-Fury Road action movies that tries to emulate that film's "feature length chase scene" style. It honestly felt more like a spiritual successor to Fury Road than Furiosa did. I ended up finding it really memorable, with some obviously great action set pieces and a super compelling lead character at the center of it. I had to laugh at how funny the timing is considering how close the last Visions Fantastic project ended up turning into a full blown "Killing Nazis" theme park. I also love the plot device of the main character carrying his whole freaking family home in the back of his truck and thought that element of the movie made for really great, consistent moments of micro-tension. It's not the most substantial thing in the world but it does have a super cathartic, emotional ending and is overall just a damn good time at the movies.
3. Wicked: For Good
Yep..it's pretty much Wicked act two exactly. While I'm a bit disappointed that the movie didn't course correct the wonky rapid fire pacing of the source material, I'd be lying if I said I didn't find this thing super watchable. Maybe this is a hot take but I actually found the cinematography a lot less washed out than the first movie. The problem is that the musical numbers are a lot less dynamic. Lots of "characters standing around singing to each other" scenes. Take the choreography of the first film and the cinematography of this film and it would have been perfect.
That being said the two leads are obviously still fantastic (even with the press tour weirdness kind of clouding that) and the production design continues to be absolutely incredible. These movies are just BEGGING to be turned into a theme park land. "Wonderful" is hands down my favorite scene in the movie and kind of worth the price of admission in its own right. I also love just how much "weird little creep" energy Spongebob continues to have, and I find that character's abrupt villain turn unintentionally hilarious. I also have a lot of friends who REALLY resonated with this one, so that very much colors my view of it.
2. Jay Kelly
Easily up there with Punch Drunk Love and Uncut Gems in the "Oh man, Adam Sandler can be a FANTASTIC actor when he actually tries" category. I really liked this one a lot. I found the meditation on legacy, death, and how certain choices can impact other people to be really meaningful. I loved Billy Crudup's brief role and kind of wish more of the movie revolved around that dynamic instead of just being a plot catalyst. The thing with this movie is that it's also very much a "Hollywood patting itself on the back" movie and with that in mind I actually think George Clooney is the weakest element of it. He's basically just playing himself, but not in a compelling, meta way like Keaton in Birdman. Sandler is absolutely the heart and soul of this movie and THE reason to see it, and his character arc alone elevates this to one of the best of the month. Once again it probably won't end up in my top 20 but it absolutely had a lot of standout elements to it.
1. Train Dreams
It feels like the movie version of a Great American Novel. The cinematography, score, narration, performances, non-linear storytelling, ENDING (hands down one of the best of the year) all were absolutely fantastic. This is easily going to be in my top ten of the year and as of now is probably pretty solidly in my top five. I can't get over how haunting William H. Macey's brief role in this movie is. There's certain moments in here that will stick with me for life. It's a movie that's both deeply sad and super cathartic and life-affirming, and those two things being able to co-exist in the same piece of art is EXACTLY why I love movies as much as I do. The biggest surprise of the year for me hands down.
Absolutely it’s more than that. I was worried going into it too, and while it’s certainly sad I really don’t think it’s the child death element that wrecks you more than the catharsis of the last 15 minutes. It’s easily my favorite ending of the entire year and it’s not even remotely close.
Performances by Jessie Buckley and Paul Mescal and Jacobi Jupe and even Noah Jupe in a very small part are all awards worthy. I think it’s very much worth the watch
Lizzy May Bee
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WHAT is this movie bro 
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Mr. Sullivan
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Everyone who made Five Nights at Freddy’s 2 needs prison time.
#SaveJoshHutcherson
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So legendary director of some of the greatest family films and comedies of all time (The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally, Stand By Me, Misery) Rob Reiner and his wife murdered today.
Obviously horrific and tragic and I wish the best to his friends and family impacted, but as a cinephile and someone who grew up with so many of his movies, this one really hurt, especially how horrible it is. Rest in peace Rob Reiner, you’re a legend and you’ll be missed.
Obviously horrific and tragic and I wish the best to his friends and family impacted, but as a cinephile and someone who grew up with so many of his movies, this one really hurt, especially how horrible it is. Rest in peace Rob Reiner, you’re a legend and you’ll be missed.
Mr. Sullivan
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We are so blessed to live in a time where someone like Steven Spielberg is still actively making films.
On a bit of a personal note Spielberg is the reason that I am pursuing becoming a filmmaker. I saw Raiders of the Lost Ark when I was eight years old and watched it behind the scenes bonus feature in which she talked about the making of the film and that brief interview with him sent me on a path that I am currently following to this day.
He is the reason that I’m moving to New York. He is the reason that I wrote and directed a short film that made it as far as being shown in a real movie theater. He is the reason that I love this art form as much as I do. I quite literally owe my dreams and ambitions to Steven Spielberg and I cannot wait to see this film.
On a bit of a personal note Spielberg is the reason that I am pursuing becoming a filmmaker. I saw Raiders of the Lost Ark when I was eight years old and watched it behind the scenes bonus feature in which she talked about the making of the film and that brief interview with him sent me on a path that I am currently following to this day.
He is the reason that I’m moving to New York. He is the reason that I wrote and directed a short film that made it as far as being shown in a real movie theater. He is the reason that I love this art form as much as I do. I quite literally owe my dreams and ambitions to Steven Spielberg and I cannot wait to see this film.
TheOriginalTiki
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I knew Fire and Ash wasn't going to be amazing as far as the storytelling goes, but I definitely thought it had the potential to be the best story in the franchise because of the Navii villains. On that note, man this movie is frustrating. The actual fire Navii, especially Oona Chaplin's character, are excellent. When they first show up it's honestly such a breath of fresh air compared to the military villains of the first two movies and they're genuinely intimidating as hell.
The problem is that entire element of the movie basically gets buried by the time we get to the big final battle and it's once again just "Navii and Pandora creatures vs. military". I was honestly so bummed out as the movie went on and I realized they really weren't the primary antagonists at all. It just feels like such a wasted opportunity to legitimately grow the franchise past its pretty generic roots.
That being said, while I think this is probably the weakest or at least messiest of the three I still found a lot to like about it. Obviously the visuals continue to be amazing even if we don't get that decade plus jump in technology we got between the first two films. A lot of the side characters are pretty flat but I actually got way more into the Sully kids as individual personalities here than I did in Way of Water. Spider has a really interesting arc that's obviously going to carry the franchise world building going forward, but his dialogue is so aggressively "Terminator 2 John Conner" coded that it was hard to fully enjoy the character.
The big thing I'll give this franchise is that in spite of some of the more generic plot elements, the actual world building and lore at play with these movies is honestly staggering. If we got better characters and more compelling plot lines these would seriously be all time masterpieces, but I still think there's a ton of lore added here that makes this story the most fresh out of the three. I just wish the movie actually fully committed to the Navii villains. The military continuing to be the big bad is by far the most frustrating element here. Stephen Lang's arc is really interesting but I feel like they kind of sacrificed how cool and stand alone the fire Navii could be in order to flesh him out more.
The problem is that entire element of the movie basically gets buried by the time we get to the big final battle and it's once again just "Navii and Pandora creatures vs. military". I was honestly so bummed out as the movie went on and I realized they really weren't the primary antagonists at all. It just feels like such a wasted opportunity to legitimately grow the franchise past its pretty generic roots.
That being said, while I think this is probably the weakest or at least messiest of the three I still found a lot to like about it. Obviously the visuals continue to be amazing even if we don't get that decade plus jump in technology we got between the first two films. A lot of the side characters are pretty flat but I actually got way more into the Sully kids as individual personalities here than I did in Way of Water. Spider has a really interesting arc that's obviously going to carry the franchise world building going forward, but his dialogue is so aggressively "Terminator 2 John Conner" coded that it was hard to fully enjoy the character.
The big thing I'll give this franchise is that in spite of some of the more generic plot elements, the actual world building and lore at play with these movies is honestly staggering. If we got better characters and more compelling plot lines these would seriously be all time masterpieces, but I still think there's a ton of lore added here that makes this story the most fresh out of the three. I just wish the movie actually fully committed to the Navii villains. The military continuing to be the big bad is by far the most frustrating element here. Stephen Lang's arc is really interesting but I feel like they kind of sacrificed how cool and stand alone the fire Navii could be in order to flesh him out more.
Pi on my Cake
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Shame, but not too big of a shock. Spectacle 1st, story a distant 5th is the Avatar way lol
Mr. Sullivan
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I’m gonna be seeing it this weekend. I’m quite excited. I think Way of Water is one of the most best, most impressive blockbusters of the 21st century (the only movie to ever make me cry out of sheer beauty being shown to me) and is one of my top 3 favorite theater going experiences ever. I’m not expecting it to reach Way of Water’s heights, but I do expect to really enjoy it.
God I just love this franchise. I really am sad for people who can’t (or in some cases just won’t) give themselves over to it. They are absolutely exhilarating watches that are really unparalleled theatrical experiences.
God I just love this franchise. I really am sad for people who can’t (or in some cases just won’t) give themselves over to it. They are absolutely exhilarating watches that are really unparalleled theatrical experiences.
Mr. Sullivan
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Honestly I’m not so sure I agree with this. These films are pretty story dense, its just some folks don’t seem to like the story. Which is totally fair!
But the suggestion a lot of folks make that there’s no story or no forward momentum or that visual trumps story I can’t get behind. It’s all interconnected. There is a lot of attention paid to the narrative and especially the mythology behind the story. It’s one of the most lore dense franchises we’ve got, and the more you dig into the lore, the more you see how it is woven into the story.
Of course I’ve not seen Fire and Ash yet but Way of Water left me with a distinct and clear impression of where we’re going story wise, and I find that story to be incredibly fascinating and dare I say even timely.
TheOriginalTiki
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I think the actual lore and world building in these movies is just staggering. It truly feels like a modern pop mythology the same way Tolkien was in the 60s. My only issue really is that it felt like Fire and Ash spent more time recycling elements of Way of Warer than actually exploring the fire Navii tribe and treating them like the main villains. The Final action set pieces of these films are always amazing and super well paced, at this point I'm just sick of the "Navii have the upper hand at first until the military brings in a secret weapon only for Eywa to step in as a Deus Ex Machina while Jake and Quaritch have a hand to hand combat fight" structure.
This franchise is freaking RICH with lore and details, it just needs some more originality in the actual plot beats (plus give my boy Norm something to do. It's a shame he's basically an exposition cameo in the last two movies. Generally speaking uneven screen time distribution is another thing this franchise struggles with a bit, especially with the side characters)
This franchise is freaking RICH with lore and details, it just needs some more originality in the actual plot beats (plus give my boy Norm something to do. It's a shame he's basically an exposition cameo in the last two movies. Generally speaking uneven screen time distribution is another thing this franchise struggles with a bit, especially with the side characters)
So here comes PerGron the contrarian, but I actually really enjoyed Fire and Ash. I think it’s the perfect follow up to the original film and while I agree The Way of Water looks beautiful, I really didn’t jive with that movie because it felt incomplete and that nothing really of substance happened, because I didn’t care about the son character.
I firmly believe that if this was extended into a 4 hour movie with some of the cultural lore and world building from the second film added in, I would’ve been an absolute Avatar fan.
I agree, I was disappointed by the fire tribe not being the MAIN enemies and the end battle is absolutely the exact same as the first two and ESPECIALLY the second movie, but because I liked the characters way more here, I blame that more on the second one than this one.
Idk, maybe on a second watch I’ll feel differently, but I liked this one a lot
I firmly believe that if this was extended into a 4 hour movie with some of the cultural lore and world building from the second film added in, I would’ve been an absolute Avatar fan.
I agree, I was disappointed by the fire tribe not being the MAIN enemies and the end battle is absolutely the exact same as the first two and ESPECIALLY the second movie, but because I liked the characters way more here, I blame that more on the second one than this one.
Idk, maybe on a second watch I’ll feel differently, but I liked this one a lot
So sometime between Christmas and New Years, @TheOriginalTiki and I will be doing our live stream for The Third Annual Golden Tikis nominations. It'll be a good time where we each announce one nomination, then two wildcards that YOU the audience get to vote between. It's been fun in years past and I'm excited we're bringing it back for a third year in a row!
Here's a full rundown of categories and nominees already locked in from our Mid-Year nominations. After this, I'll be releasing my shortlists for some of the categories containing 10-20 potential nominees on my end though they do not in any way represent Tiki's picks so some of them may not show up at all nomination night. The only movie really missing from my shortlists will be Marty Supreme as I won't be catching that until probably right around the time of the show and I wanted to get these out early enough. Anywho, here are the current locks and categories.
Best Picture- Sinners
Best Actor- Michael B. Jordan- Sinners
Best Actress- Sally Hawkins- Bring Her Back
Best Supporting Actor- Delroy Lindo- Sinners
Best Supporting Actress- Lucy Liu- Presence
Best Voice Performance- Eric Bauza- The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie
Best Ensemble- The Life of Chuck
Best Director- Ryan Coogler- Sinners
Best Screenplay- The Life of Chuck
Best Animated Feature- The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie
Best Needle Drop- "Whole Lotta Love" performed by Led Zeppelin- F1
Best Original Song- "I Lied To You" performed by Miles Caton- Sinners
Best Score- Ludwig Göransson- Sinners
Best Ending- Presence
Best Villain- Lex Luthor- Superman
Best Production Design- Sinners
Best Visual Effects- How to Train Your Dragon
Best Cinematography- Presence
Best Sound- F1
Best Cameo- Bryan Cranston + Tom Hanks- The Phoenician Scheme
Weirdest Little Creep- Tim Robinson- Friendship
Best Hair and Makeup- Bring Her Back
Best Costume Design- A Minecraft Movie
Best Editing- F1
Best Stunts & Choreography- Mission: Impossible- The Final Reckoning
Here's a full rundown of categories and nominees already locked in from our Mid-Year nominations. After this, I'll be releasing my shortlists for some of the categories containing 10-20 potential nominees on my end though they do not in any way represent Tiki's picks so some of them may not show up at all nomination night. The only movie really missing from my shortlists will be Marty Supreme as I won't be catching that until probably right around the time of the show and I wanted to get these out early enough. Anywho, here are the current locks and categories.
Best Picture- Sinners
Best Actor- Michael B. Jordan- Sinners
Best Actress- Sally Hawkins- Bring Her Back
Best Supporting Actor- Delroy Lindo- Sinners
Best Supporting Actress- Lucy Liu- Presence
Best Voice Performance- Eric Bauza- The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie
Best Ensemble- The Life of Chuck
Best Director- Ryan Coogler- Sinners
Best Screenplay- The Life of Chuck
Best Animated Feature- The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie
Best Needle Drop- "Whole Lotta Love" performed by Led Zeppelin- F1
Best Original Song- "I Lied To You" performed by Miles Caton- Sinners
Best Score- Ludwig Göransson- Sinners
Best Ending- Presence
Best Villain- Lex Luthor- Superman
Best Production Design- Sinners
Best Visual Effects- How to Train Your Dragon
Best Cinematography- Presence
Best Sound- F1
Best Cameo- Bryan Cranston + Tom Hanks- The Phoenician Scheme
Weirdest Little Creep- Tim Robinson- Friendship
Best Hair and Makeup- Bring Her Back
Best Costume Design- A Minecraft Movie
Best Editing- F1
Best Stunts & Choreography- Mission: Impossible- The Final Reckoning
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TheOriginalTiki
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About to finally see Sentimental Value. This is definitely one of the biggest wild cards of the year.
My Shortlists
(Keeping in mind so far I've seen almost 300 movies this year)
Now, there's a few movies I've yet to catch (Marty Supreme, Sentimental Value, Rental Family, SpongeBob, It Was Just an Accident, The Secret Agent, amongst a few others) that could sneak in if I see them before nominations, but for now, this is what I've got. Between 5-20 nominations depending on the category.
(Keeping in mind so far I've seen almost 300 movies this year)
Now, there's a few movies I've yet to catch (Marty Supreme, Sentimental Value, Rental Family, SpongeBob, It Was Just an Accident, The Secret Agent, amongst a few others) that could sneak in if I see them before nominations, but for now, this is what I've got. Between 5-20 nominations depending on the category.
F1
Kiss of the Spider Woman
The Life of Chuck
One Battle After Another
Predator: Badlands
Sinners
Sisu: Road to Revenge
Superman
Thunderbolts*
Wicked: For Good
Kiss of the Spider Woman
The Life of Chuck
One Battle After Another
Predator: Badlands
Sinners
Sisu: Road to Revenge
Superman
Thunderbolts*
Wicked: For Good
Avatar: Fire and Ash
Bugonia
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Life of Chuck
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Bugonia
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Life of Chuck
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
The Fantastic Four: First Steps
Frankenstein
Friendship
Hamnet
One Battle After Another
One of Them Days
Sinners
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Wicked: For Good
Frankenstein
Friendship
Hamnet
One Battle After Another
One of Them Days
Sinners
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Wicked: For Good
Bugonia
Frankenstein
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
One of Them Days
Predator: Badlands
Sinners
Superman
Together
The Toxic Avenger
Weapons
Wicked: For Good
Frankenstein
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
One of Them Days
Predator: Badlands
Sinners
Superman
Together
The Toxic Avenger
Weapons
Wicked: For Good
Louis Cancelmi- Sorry, Baby
Jai Courtney- Dangerous Animals
Sally Hawkins- Bring Her Back
Nicholas Hoult- Superman
Amy Madigan- Weapons
West Mulholland- Presence
Sean Penn- One Battle After Another
Jesse Plemons- Bugonia
Jeremy Renner- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Paul Schneider- Train Dreams
Alicia Vikander- The Assessment
Jonah Wren Phillips- Bring Her Back
Jai Courtney- Dangerous Animals
Sally Hawkins- Bring Her Back
Nicholas Hoult- Superman
Amy Madigan- Weapons
West Mulholland- Presence
Sean Penn- One Battle After Another
Jesse Plemons- Bugonia
Jeremy Renner- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Paul Schneider- Train Dreams
Alicia Vikander- The Assessment
Jonah Wren Phillips- Bring Her Back
Milly Alcock- Superman
Dave Bautista- The Naked Gun
John Cena- Superman
David Dastmalchian- The Life of Chuck
Roman Griffin Davis- The Long Walk
Robert Irwin- Zootopia 2
Noah Jupe- Hamnet
Matthew Lillard- The Life of Chuck
Busta Rhymes- The Naked Gun
Jeffrey Wright- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Velociraptor- Jurassic World: Rebirth
"Weird Al" Yankovic- The Naked Gun
Dave Bautista- The Naked Gun
John Cena- Superman
David Dastmalchian- The Life of Chuck
Roman Griffin Davis- The Long Walk
Robert Irwin- Zootopia 2
Noah Jupe- Hamnet
Matthew Lillard- The Life of Chuck
Busta Rhymes- The Naked Gun
Jeffrey Wright- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Velociraptor- Jurassic World: Rebirth
"Weird Al" Yankovic- The Naked Gun
Avatar: Fire and Ash
Bring Her Back
Bugonia
Frankenstein
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Jurassic World: Rebirth
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Predator: Badlands
Sinners
Superman
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Bring Her Back
Bugonia
Frankenstein
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Jurassic World: Rebirth
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Predator: Badlands
Sinners
Superman
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Americana
Avatar: Fire and Ash
F1
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Jurassic World: Rebirth
The Life of Chuck
Mission: Impossible- The Final Reckoning
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Sorry, Baby
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Avatar: Fire and Ash
F1
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Jurassic World: Rebirth
The Life of Chuck
Mission: Impossible- The Final Reckoning
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Sorry, Baby
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Avatar: Fire and Ash
Bring Her Back
F1
Frankenstein
Jurassic World: Rebirth
The Long Walk
Ne Zha 2
One Battle After Another
Predator: Badlands
Superman
Together
TRON: Ares
Warfare
Bring Her Back
F1
Frankenstein
Jurassic World: Rebirth
The Long Walk
Ne Zha 2
One Battle After Another
Predator: Badlands
Superman
Together
TRON: Ares
Warfare
Avatar: Fire and Ash
Eternity
Frankenstein
Hamnet
The Life of Chuck
One of Them Days
Predator: Badlands
Presence
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Wicked: For Good
Eternity
Frankenstein
Hamnet
The Life of Chuck
One of Them Days
Predator: Badlands
Presence
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Wicked: For Good
Colonel Miles Quaritch- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Colonel Steven J. Lockjaw- One Battle After Another
Gladys- Weapons
Laura- Bring Her Back
Lynxley Family- Zootopia 2
Monsignor Jefferson Wicks- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Remmick- Sinners
Shen Gongbao- Ne Zha 2
Teddy- Bugonia
Wuliang Tianzun- Ne Zha 2
Colonel Steven J. Lockjaw- One Battle After Another
Gladys- Weapons
Laura- Bring Her Back
Lynxley Family- Zootopia 2
Monsignor Jefferson Wicks- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Remmick- Sinners
Shen Gongbao- Ne Zha 2
Teddy- Bugonia
Wuliang Tianzun- Ne Zha 2
Eternity
Final Destination: Bloodlines
Hamnet
The Life of Chuck
Ne Zha 2
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Sorry, Baby
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Final Destination: Bloodlines
Hamnet
The Life of Chuck
Ne Zha 2
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Sorry, Baby
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Roc Chen, Rui Yang + Wan Pin Chu- Ne Zha 2
Alexandre Desplat- Frankenstein
Alexandre Desplat- Jurassic World: Rebirth
Bryce Dessner- Train Dreams
Jerskin Fendrix- Bugonia
David Fleming- Americana
Simon Franglen- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Johnny Greenwood- One Battle After Another
Andy Grush + Taylor Newton Stewart- The Life of Chuck
Nathan Johnson- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Nine Inch Nails- TRON: Ares
Max Richter- Hamnet
Hans Zimmer- F1
Alexandre Desplat- Frankenstein
Alexandre Desplat- Jurassic World: Rebirth
Bryce Dessner- Train Dreams
Jerskin Fendrix- Bugonia
David Fleming- Americana
Simon Franglen- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Johnny Greenwood- One Battle After Another
Andy Grush + Taylor Newton Stewart- The Life of Chuck
Nathan Johnson- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Nine Inch Nails- TRON: Ares
Max Richter- Hamnet
Hans Zimmer- F1
"Dream as One" performed by Miley Cyrus- Avatar: Fire and Ash
"Free" performed by EJAE + Andrew Choi- KPop Demon Hunters
"Give Your Love" performed by Tom Basden + Carey Mulligan- The Ballad of Wallis Island
"Golden" performed by Huntr/x- KPop Demon Hunters
"Pale Pale Moon" performed by Jayme Lawson- Sinners
"Train Dreams" performed by Nick Cave- Train Dreams
"Your Idol" performed by Saja Boys- KPop Demon Hunters
"Zoo" performed by Shakira- Zootopia 2
"Free" performed by EJAE + Andrew Choi- KPop Demon Hunters
"Give Your Love" performed by Tom Basden + Carey Mulligan- The Ballad of Wallis Island
"Golden" performed by Huntr/x- KPop Demon Hunters
"Pale Pale Moon" performed by Jayme Lawson- Sinners
"Train Dreams" performed by Nick Cave- Train Dreams
"Your Idol" performed by Saja Boys- KPop Demon Hunters
"Zoo" performed by Shakira- Zootopia 2
"2 Become 1" performed by The Spice Girls- Together
"5 Years Time" performed by Noah & The Whale- Superman
"American Girl" performed by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers- One Battle After Another
"Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 1" performed by Pink Floyd- The Black Phone 2
"Basket Case" performed by Green Day- Bugonia
"Come On Up to the House" performed by Tom Waits- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery"
"In Spite of Ourselves" performed by John Prine and Iris DeMent- Die My Love
"It's the End of the World As We Know It (and I Feel Fine)" performed by R.E.M.- The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie
"Nation on Wheels" performed by George Bruns- The Fantastic Four: First Steps
"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" performed by Starship- The Naked Gun
"In the Nature of Daylight" performed by Max Richter- Hamnet
"The Parting Glass" performed by Gregory Alan Isakov- The Life of Chuck
"Punkrocker" performed by Teddybears feat. Iggy Pop- Superman
"Shout" performed by The Isley Brothers- Final Destination: Bloodlines
"5 Years Time" performed by Noah & The Whale- Superman
"American Girl" performed by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers- One Battle After Another
"Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 1" performed by Pink Floyd- The Black Phone 2
"Basket Case" performed by Green Day- Bugonia
"Come On Up to the House" performed by Tom Waits- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery"
"In Spite of Ourselves" performed by John Prine and Iris DeMent- Die My Love
"It's the End of the World As We Know It (and I Feel Fine)" performed by R.E.M.- The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie
"Nation on Wheels" performed by George Bruns- The Fantastic Four: First Steps
"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" performed by Starship- The Naked Gun
"In the Nature of Daylight" performed by Max Richter- Hamnet
"The Parting Glass" performed by Gregory Alan Isakov- The Life of Chuck
"Punkrocker" performed by Teddybears feat. Iggy Pop- Superman
"Shout" performed by The Isley Brothers- Final Destination: Bloodlines
The Bad Guys 2
Dog Man
Elio
KPop Demon Hunters
Lost in Starlight
Mononoke the Movie: Chapter II- The Ashes of Rage
Ne Zha 2
Predator: Killer of Killers
Zootopia 2
Dog Man
Elio
KPop Demon Hunters
Lost in Starlight
Mononoke the Movie: Chapter II- The Ashes of Rage
Ne Zha 2
Predator: Killer of Killers
Zootopia 2
Bugonia
Die My Love
Fackham Hall
Friendship
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Naked Gun
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Sorry, Baby
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Die My Love
Fackham Hall
Friendship
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Naked Gun
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Sorry, Baby
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Clint Bentley- Train Dreams
Mary Bronstein- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Guillermo del Toro- Frankenstein
Mike Flanagan- The Life of Chuck
James Gunn- Superman
Rian Johnson- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Yorgos Lanthimos- Bugonia
Paul Thomas Anderson- One Battle After Another
Eva Victor- Sorry, Baby
Chloé Zhao- Hamnet
Mary Bronstein- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Guillermo del Toro- Frankenstein
Mike Flanagan- The Life of Chuck
James Gunn- Superman
Rian Johnson- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Yorgos Lanthimos- Bugonia
Paul Thomas Anderson- One Battle After Another
Eva Victor- Sorry, Baby
Chloé Zhao- Hamnet
Americana
Eternity
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Naked Gun
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Splitsville
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Wicked: For Good
Eternity
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Naked Gun
One Battle After Another
Sinners
Splitsville
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Weapons
Wicked: For Good
Aidyn Ahn- Ne Zha 2
Danielle Brooks- The Bad Guys 2
EJAE- KPop Demon Hunters
Stephen Lang- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Crystal Lee- Ne Zha 2
Zoe Saldaña- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Andy Samberg- Zootopia 2
Patrick Warburton- Zootopia 2
Sigourney Weaver- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Danielle Brooks- The Bad Guys 2
EJAE- KPop Demon Hunters
Stephen Lang- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Crystal Lee- Ne Zha 2
Zoe Saldaña- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Andy Samberg- Zootopia 2
Patrick Warburton- Zootopia 2
Sigourney Weaver- Avatar: Fire and Ash
Naomi Ackie- Sorry, Baby
Glen Close- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Kerry Condon- Train Dreams
Elle Fanning- Predator: Badlands
Judy Greer- The Long Walk
Chase Infiniti- One Battle After Another
Felicity Jones- Train Dreams
Da'Vine Joy Randolph- Eternity
Amy Madigan- Weapons
Mia Sara- The Life of Chuck
Hailee Steinfeld- Sinners
Teyana Taylor- One Battle After Another
Wunmi Mosaku- Sinners
Glen Close- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Kerry Condon- Train Dreams
Elle Fanning- Predator: Badlands
Judy Greer- The Long Walk
Chase Infiniti- One Battle After Another
Felicity Jones- Train Dreams
Da'Vine Joy Randolph- Eternity
Amy Madigan- Weapons
Mia Sara- The Life of Chuck
Hailee Steinfeld- Sinners
Teyana Taylor- One Battle After Another
Wunmi Mosaku- Sinners
Josh Brolin- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Miles Caton- Sinners
Daniel Craig- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Benicio del Toro- One Battle After Another
Ralph Fiennes- 28 Years Later
Edi Gathegi- Superman
William H. Macy- Train Dreams
Mark Hamill- The Life of Chuck
Ed Harris- My Dead Friend Zoe
Jacobi Jupe- Hamnet
Conan O'Brien- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Jack O'Connell- Sinners
Joshua Odjick- The Long Walk
Robert Pattinson- Die My Love
Sean Penn- One Battle After Another
A$AP Rocky- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Adam Sandler- Jay Kelly
Jonah Wren Phillips- Bring Her Back
Miles Caton- Sinners
Daniel Craig- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Benicio del Toro- One Battle After Another
Ralph Fiennes- 28 Years Later
Edi Gathegi- Superman
William H. Macy- Train Dreams
Mark Hamill- The Life of Chuck
Ed Harris- My Dead Friend Zoe
Jacobi Jupe- Hamnet
Conan O'Brien- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Jack O'Connell- Sinners
Joshua Odjick- The Long Walk
Robert Pattinson- Die My Love
Sean Penn- One Battle After Another
A$AP Rocky- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Adam Sandler- Jay Kelly
Jonah Wren Phillips- Bring Her Back
Rachel Brosnahan- Superman
Jessie Buckley- Hamnet
Rose Byrne- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Julia Garner- Weapons
Dakota Johnson- Splitsville
Jennifer Lawrence- Die My Love
Sonequa Martin-Green- My Dead Friend Zoe
Elizabeth Olsen- Eternity
Keke Palmer- One of Them Days
Emma Stone- Bugonia
SZA- One of Them Days
Sophie Thatcher- Companion
Eva Victor- Sorry, Baby
Jessie Buckley- Hamnet
Rose Byrne- If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
Julia Garner- Weapons
Dakota Johnson- Splitsville
Jennifer Lawrence- Die My Love
Sonequa Martin-Green- My Dead Friend Zoe
Elizabeth Olsen- Eternity
Keke Palmer- One of Them Days
Emma Stone- Bugonia
SZA- One of Them Days
Sophie Thatcher- Companion
Eva Victor- Sorry, Baby
Austin Butler- Caught Stealing
David Corenswet- Superman
Leonardo DiCaprio- One Battle After Another
Joel Edgerton- Train Dreams
Jacob Elordi- Frankenstein
Ethan Hawke- Blue Moon
Indy- Good Boy
Oscar Isaac- Frankenstein
David Jonsson- The Long Walk
Paul Mescal- Hamnet
Josh O'Connor- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Jesse Plemons- Bugonia
David Corenswet- Superman
Leonardo DiCaprio- One Battle After Another
Joel Edgerton- Train Dreams
Jacob Elordi- Frankenstein
Ethan Hawke- Blue Moon
Indy- Good Boy
Oscar Isaac- Frankenstein
David Jonsson- The Long Walk
Paul Mescal- Hamnet
Josh O'Connor- Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Jesse Plemons- Bugonia
Bugonia
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Life of Chuck
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Sorry, Baby
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Hamnet
If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You
The Life of Chuck
The Long Walk
One Battle After Another
Sorry, Baby
Superman
Train Dreams
Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery
Lizzy May Bee
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Pergron you NEED to see it so you can nominate the lyrical MASTERPIECE that is Spongebob Big Guy Pants Okay for Best Original Song