DHS Disney Confirms Muppets Take Over Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Hollywood Studios

[andre85]

Well, you could say the same about the DuckTales and Jellystone characters too - their personalities are drastically different. Then again, people seem to prefer the new versions over the originals...

Maybe I would? I haven't watched them though.

I've said this before, but I think most people only complain about the Muppets' voices because of that Family Guy sketch @Cmdr_Crimson posted... like, after they saw that, they all went "Oh, yeah! That's another thing we can complain about!".

I mean, I had never seen that sketch until well after I decided I didn't like the new Kermit. I didn't even know it existed until the last few months, probably from one of your posts blaming it lol.

In any case, I don't know why you seem to think liking one recast but not another is hypocritical. Not all recasts are created equal, and that's likely doubly so when the voice artist is ALSO the performer. In animation, a recast is generally just a voice, whereas the writing and animation remains consistent, but with the Muppets, the entirety of the performance is solely on the performer (besides in a Show, where there's still writers), and it's clear that THIS Kermit just ain't it for a lot of people.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Yes but could see them throw in the older AA's in certain areas your moving quick. Plus could always skin them to put on new AA's. ie I still feel a lot of props and stuff from Muppetvision could be reused. im more just grateful there actually using/putting AA's (more then one) in an attraction that's never had them

The PizzeRizzo sign would work perfectly as a sign on the ride.

 

[Gusey]

I've seen complaints about Steve's Kermit and the other Muppets "sounding wrong" too (I recall there being a review of the 2015 show on IMDB that complained about Bunsen's voice, even though it's still Dave Goelz!). I've said this before, but I think most people only complain about the Muppets' voices because of that Family Guy sketch @Cmdr_Crimson posted... like, after they saw that, they all went "Oh, yeah! That's another thing we can complain about!". Even if it they had Peter Linz take over as Kermit like everyone's been suggesting, there'd probably still be complaints about Kermit's voice.

I think nostalgia also plays into it. I think I first watched Steve's Kermit in Christmas Carol and Treasure Island before seeing Muppet Vision and the OG Muppet Movies, and in those, Jim's Kermit sounds off to me, even though its the original. The same with Walt's Mickey compared to modern day Mickey sounding very different to me. It at least looks like Matt's Kermit is improving, with him nailing any Kermit singing and the latest video sounding more Kermit-y than before

 

[jah4955]

(I recall there being a review of the 2015 show on IMDB that complained about Bunsen's voice, even though it's still Dave Goelz!).

Good point. Voices change as we age. 1934 (Wise Little Hen) Donald sounds different from 1984 Donald (50th Birthday TV special...or Mickey's Christmas Carol the year before), though same exact person throughout. Identical ages with Goelz: also started at 29...latest performances at 79 (though I hope Goelz is able to continue for years to come)

 

[jah4955]

I just remembered something I read around the late nineties. Frank Oz said he hated being considered the "voice" of Fozzie, Miss Piggy, etc. He was trying to say what matters even more than voice was capturing their personality and acting.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Just imagine the pop in hype and attendance had they gone with Taylor Swift instead. Oh well.

So.. she got into a scandal

 

[Alice a]

I'm just gonna post this again whenever somebody complains about Matt Vogel's Kermit...
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Matt Lillard is a great S h a g g y (censors won’t let me post the name).

He worked on it for years and was the official voice in animation, until he got kicked out with everyone else for a bunch of celebrities for the failed big-screen adaptation that came out within the past few years.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Matt Lillard is a great S h a g g y (censors won’t let me post the name).

He worked on it for years and was the official voice in animation, until he got kicked out with everyone else for a bunch of celebrities for the failed big-screen adaptation that came out within the past few years.

It was Casey Kasem for sometime in the late 00's when he reprised his roll for Norvell Rogers for What's new Scooby-Doo.,.However before that Billy West did his voice for Zombie Island and Scott Ines for Alien Invaders and Cyberchase took over prior to the live action films when Lillard said he was the official voice afterwards..

 

[Brer Panther]

Maybe I would? I haven't watched them though.

If you like Gravity Falls, you should probably like the DuckTales reboot.

Jellystone! is one of the most witless, unfunny, disrespectful cartoons ever made. It's a show for people who hate Hanna-Barbera and its characters.

I don't know why you seem to think liking one recast but not another is hypocritical.

I just think it's weird that people badmouth Matt Vogel's Kermit (and the other Muppets' voices as well) but nobody seems to have a problem with these far worse recasts. At least Matt's trying to sound like Kermit.

with the Muppets, the entirety of the performance is solely on the performer (besides in a Show, where there's still writers), and it's clear that THIS Kermit just ain't it for a lot of people.

If Kermit's PERSONALITY feels off, that could be on Disney dictating how Matt should perform him. I recall it was popular to blame Steve for the way Kermit was written in stuff like the ABC series.

Matt Lillard is a great S h a g g y (censors won’t let me post the name).

He worked on it for years and was the official voice in animation, until he got kicked out with everyone else for a bunch of celebrities for the failed big-screen adaptation that came out within the past few years.

First of all, he's still the official voice. Second, he only got to be the official voice because people like those crappy live action films. He sounds nothing like Casey Kasem. There's a reason why nobody's asking for Emma Watson to take over as the voice of Belle, or for Elizabeth Perkins to start doing the voice of Wilma Flintstone.

And while replacing everyone with celebrities for Scoob! was awful, I think replacing Frank Welker as Fred - y'know, the character he's been voicing since the show premiered - with Zac Efron because they thought it would sell more tickets was more insulting than replacing Matthew Lillard (not that Will Forte was any better).

 

[Rhinocerous]

And while replacing everyone with celebrities for Scoob! was awful, I think replacing Frank Welker as Fred - y'know, the character he's been voicing since the show premiered - with Zac Efron because they thought it would sell more tickets was more insulting than replacing Matthew Lillard (not that Will Forte was any better).

Frank Welker was Fred? I never knew that. Holy cow, so that's what he actually sounds like.

 

[WaluigiTime]

Frank Welker was Fred? I never knew that. Holy cow, so that's what he actually sounds like.

As far as I know he STILL is Fred

 

[jah4955]

As far as I know he STILL is Fred

Frank Welker makes Mel Blanc look talentless by comparison

 

[HauntedPirate]

Frank Welker makes Mel Blanc look talentless by comparison

 

[jah4955]

great movie! But, too me, most of Mel's voices, as "many" as they were, sound the same

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Frank Welker makes Mel Blanc look talentless by comparison

Fun Fact you can hear Frank Welker as an angry citizen, Bellringer during the Boston Tea Party and a Freezing Valley Forge Soldier in The American Adventure.

And You can Hear Mel Blanc as Granny's Parrot and Uncle Orville in CoP.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Frank Welker was Fred? I never knew that. Holy cow, so that's what he actually sounds like.

They did this awhile back with the recent voice actors..

 

[Brer Panther]

As far as I know he STILL is Fred

Yep, although that Velma show replaced Frank with a celebrity again.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Yep, although that Velma show replaced Frank with a celebrity again.

Velma isn't canon so it doesn't count.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Good point. Voices change as we age. 1934 (Wise Little Hen) Donald sounds different from 1984 Donald (50th Birthday TV special...or Mickey's Christmas Carol the year before), though same exact person throughout. Identical ages with Goelz: also started at 29...latest performances at 79 (though I hope Goelz is able to continue for years to come)

My only concern with Goelz is in his voicing of Gonzo which at times lacks the high energy zany delivery it once did. But it's understandable given his age.

 

[jah4955]

My only concern with Goelz is in his voicing of Gonzo which at times lacks the high energy zany delivery it once did. But it's understandable given his age.

Hopefully they take that into consideration...like it was done for Carol Spinney and Jerry Nelson towards the end of their lives (again, I pray for many more years for Dave Golez...and that he's getting to properly train his inevitable successor)