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MK New Beak and Barrel - Pirates of the Caribbean-themed lounge

TheMaxRebo

Well-Known Member
Wouldn’t they have people making reservations just to buy the mug?

Which in theory they should be ok with as it is the same price and then they should be able to get another party in - unless the thought is we only have X parties per day (can't add more if one party finishes early) and need to get the most $ out of each so want them to use full 45 mins to eat, etc
 

TheMaxRebo

Well-Known Member
This reminds me of an issue I had at a bucees…. I used a hot coffee cup for an iced coffee and was told I couldn’t do that. That I had to use a cold cup to make an iced coffee.

The employee made me throw out the coffee I made (so the product and the actual cup) and make a new iced coffee with a “cold cup.”

This of course cost the company money - and both cups were the same size and held the same amount of coffee.

Yup - sometimes they have a policy that can make sense at a higher level but when out into practice/and individual situation it can seem silly
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Is that any worse than people making reservations to buy the mug with rum? Maybe I’m misunderstanding your question.
I think they want to keep the vibe of a cool pirate’s bar, not a gift shop. They want the mug to be ancillary.

Obviously there’s no way to force that to happen but I think it’s what they’re going for.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Which in theory they should be ok with as it is the same price and then they should be able to get another party in - unless the thought is we only have X parties per day (can't add more if one party finishes early) and need to get the most $ out of each so want them to use full 45 mins to eat, etc
I think that’s exactly what the thought is.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
I think they want to keep the vibe of a cool pirate’s bar, not a gift shop. They want the mug to be ancillary.

Obviously there’s no way to force that to happen but I think it’s what they’re going for.
I mean, I would obviously have preferred to be served a non-alcoholic drink in the mug. But that was never presented as an option.

And someone intent on treating the place as a gift shop would just order the mug and not drink the rum. That’s precisely what I didn’t want to do.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
Went a second time (refreshing really does work!). I can confirm that they serve fountain drinks, though you have to ask. They won’t serve the Treasure Trove (one of the two non-alcoholic drinks on the menu) without the so-called garnish, which consists of confectionary items served on a plate next to the drink itself. It’s a silly policy that means that those who don’t want—or, for dietary reasons, can’t have—the confectionery items are prevented from enjoying the drink.

A bigger issue we ran into is that they won’t sell you the skull mug unless you get it with the rum, even if you’re willing to pay full price for it. That’s absolutely bonkers and really exclusionary if you don’t drink or can’t drink. In the end, the server spoke to her manager and made an exception for me, but you shouldn’t be forced to plead your way out of purchasing alcohol, especially in a Disney theme park.

Thank you for this info.
I was curious as to if the Pirate Mug could be purchased without the drink, but now I know the answer.

And I agree regarding the sugary treats that accompany the Treasure Trove beverage offering.
It’s sugar on top of sugar, and a sugary drink to boot!
Seem a bit overkill.

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JMcMahonEsq

Well-Known Member
Well, that's a waste!! Better to just purchase and don't bother pouring the drink. That would be the common sense and hospitable thing to do....and given that Disney is in the hospitality business....

I will remember next time I go to a restaurant not to ask for no lettuce on my burger....don't want them to change the rules for me. :hilarious:
Is it a waste....sure absolutely, but not really a big one i imagine

Is it "better" to just purchase the cup and not bothering pouring the drink....not sure what you judge better on. I mean the could have just offered up the cup for sale without buying a drink at all....Disney didn't want to go that route. They have reasons for offering it as a promotional product in connection with a certain drink. My main point is that no one's person opinion on if that is the "better" way to go really matters. The fact that this issue is likely to come up so infrequently, that maintaining your work flow of pour drinking, then having them go someplace else to get the commemorative cup is less of a cost, then the 1-2 drinks that they wouldn't end up pouring.
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
I get annoyed at people that create problems for no reason, especially when they bring those problems to people who had no hand in them.

This walked into an establishment that serves alcohol. I don't know his personal stance on it, if he drinks it, doesn't like it, CAN'T drink it for medical reasons. And frankly I don't care. HE decided he wanted to visit this place and go buy this cup, KNOWING that to get it, you had to buy a special drink. No one forced him to do it. Then he walks in, and instead tries to get wait staff, who are busying working in a place that just opened, trying to serve guests that have a time limit on the amount time they can be at this place, and tries to change the rules that he knew about going in.

What makes it even more absurd is that the cup you take home ISN'T the cup you drink from. You order your drink, and then when you are "finished" you get your fresh cup to take home. Which means he could have bought the drink, let it sit there, never touch it, and then go collect his cup. Instead he creates issues where none existed. He makes it seems like he was put upon, or denied something, as opposed to walking in with his eyes open and wanted people to change the rules for him.

I think the problem is that so many of us tried to assure skeptical posters that this was not some kind of hardcore drinking establishment, that it was a family friendly environment that would be fun and appropriate for everyone. If you were never part of that and your stance was always “This is a bar, where people go for the express purpose of drinking alcohol and nothing much else, and I still think that’s a good fit for MK”, well, ok, you’re consistent. A place that pushes drinks on unwilling participants is not what I was supporting when I expressed enthusiasm for a new lounge though (and I still certainly hope at least that this was just a misunderstanding with new staff.)
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
The fact that this issue is likely to come up so infrequently, that maintaining your work flow of pour drinking, then having them go someplace else to get the commemorative cup is less of a cost, then the 1-2 drinks that they wouldn't end up pouring.
They have to go and fetch the commemorative cup from elsewhere anyway. As has been stated multiple times by multiple posters, the cup you drink out of is not the one they give you at the end of the experience.
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
Yes, if someone doesn't drink alcohol but still wants the cup. Disney gets their money either way. Win-win
So, honest question. Maybe you have gone around in circles on this. Understanding you get the cup separately, do you have to purchase the alcoholic drink ($46) to get it? Or can you purchase the mug by itself, or at a minimum, a non-alcoholic drink?

For example:
  • Alcoholic drink: $46 as listed on menu (estimate $20 for drink which is comparable to other drinks, $26 for mug)
  • Non-alcoholic drink: $33.75 (estimate $7.75 for least expensive mocktail offered, $26 mug)
  • Mug: $26 (estimated)
 
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LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
So, honest question. Maybe you have gone around in circles on this. Understanding you get the cup separately, do you have to purchase the alcoholic drink ($46) to get it? Or can you purchase the mug by itself, or at a minimum, a non-alcoholic drink?

For example:
  • Alcoholic drink: $46 as listed on menu (estimate $20 for drink, $26 for mug)
  • Non-alcoholic drink: $33.75 (estimate $7.75 for least expensive mocktail offered, $26 mug)
  • Mug: $26 (estimated)
If they do allow you to buy the mug separately (and I was told that that goes against their current policy), you have to pay full price for it, as if getting it with the drink. That’s the case already at Oga’s and, I believe, at Trader Sam’s.

(@wdwmagic, I’m just answering what seems like a genuine question, not looking to resume the debate. I agree the matter is best dropped.)
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
If they do allow you to buy the mug separately (and I was told that that goes against their current policy), you have to pay full price for it, as if getting it with the drink. That’s the case already at Oga’s and, I believe, at Trader Sam’s.

(@wdwmagic, I’m just answering what seems like a genuine question, not looking to resume the debate. I agree the matter is best dropped.)
Fair enough. Seems the best thing to do is, if you don't drink, offer to buy someone a drink and be VERY CLEAR that you're purchasing the drink that comes with the mug but they're getting the drink only. You're keeping the mug. Nobody minds a free drink. :)
 

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