Disney Dead Head
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I was told that if they touch or try and make any changes to the building, which also includes Cosmic Rays, the entire building would need to be torn down and brought up to current code, and Disney won't do that
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MK Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath
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I think it has more to do with the hole in the floor of the building, from my understanding of things.
WorldExplorer
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- Cars is going in Frontierland
- Encanto and Indiana Jones in Animal Kingdom
- Random crap in Epcot
- They can't fill that space due to lack of thematically appropriate IPs
Call me crazy, but I don't think the issue is they're just too dedicated to thematic integrity.
- Encanto and Indiana Jones in Animal Kingdom
- Random crap in Epcot
- They can't fill that space due to lack of thematically appropriate IPs
Call me crazy, but I don't think the issue is they're just too dedicated to thematic integrity.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Have they though?
They made malificent and cruella more “anti heros” in their live action movies than actual villains…
Definitely portraying them as more misunderstood than devious.
It’s not just Disney…wicked does that too…but for a theme park land…you maybe don’t want to hedge it so much?
When you try to be neutral…you end up with dull. Hint…Star Wars land
LittleBuford
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I’m talking about the parks.
And before anyone brings up the new show at Hollywood Studios, that’s a playful sendup, not a genuine redemption.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well they’ve never done a “baddie” in the parks Effort…that’s why it’s worth discussing.
I might be tinged here having just gone to epic…who actually did do an effort…so grain of salt
But all they have ever done in a park is one show scene in a dark ride and campy/silly floats and “fighting” Mickey Mouse in a stage show diversion.
This is a different kinda project.
And the motivation here is clear: they are trying to counter their competition to an extent and to diversify their inpark appeal…
…along with selling lightning lanes and short ticket spinoffs.
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TheMaxRebo
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Do we know the current status of the structure/attraction on the inside? Was it totally removed?
Guess just wondering how challenging it would be to just reopen Stitch as it was
Guess just wondering how challenging it would be to just reopen Stitch as it was
This isn't so much directed at you but it is a good springboard for this discussion.
When it comes to portraying villains, you can’t selectively highlight traits. The guests perceive these characters as a whole, with all their defining qualities shaping how they should be represented. Villains, by nature, are menacing and intimidating, yet they often present themselves as misunderstood. This creates that fun dynamic tension between “showing” and “telling.” For a themepark setting, the ideal approach is for Disney to visually convey the villains’ true, fearsome nature while allowing the characters to express their misunderstood side through dialogue and interaction.
However, as we’ve seen, Disney has struggled with the “show, don’t tell” principle in recent years. To achieve a well-rounded portrayal, the experience should strike a balance: Rides can emphasize the villain’s darker, scarier aspects (the “show”), while guest interactions and shows can lean into storytelling, highlighting their misunderstood motivations (the “tell”).
How this all comes out in the wash remains to be seen.
castlecake2.0
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If WDI operated the parks they’d be bankrupted in hours.
Disstevefan1
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That's what Roy said to Walt, LOL, LOL, LOL.
They fought over this.
Good thing for us, Walt won the fight back then.
Walt knew this kind of thinking was wrong.
Today, without a doubt, Imagineering is losing the fight and it shows!
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well Walt didn’t really “win” that fight…
They met in the middle and stressed production for the money spent over delusions of grandeur…
Which is why WDI is off course. They believe theyre Picasso governed by accountant bots…
Remember that Walt was totally against a magic kingdom…but was strong armed by Roy et al in the early days in the swamp to justify the expenditure on his personal city…which would have been an outright disaster
Very challenging
castlecake2.0
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Even back then WDI/WED was never in charge of operating the parks, they’ve always been paid to design whatever is needed then hand it over to ops. Walt and Roy may have fought over the budgets been given to WDI, but WDI has never been the operator.
castlecake2.0
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For one, where will they move my break room to?
I believe the only change so far has been the animatronics being removed after the show closed.
There's also a look from 2021, but alot can change in 4 years:
Disstevefan1
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Obviously not.
But Walt could push for the creative stuff, he knew was best for the park and not get shut down by finance.
We can rationalize all we want for what Disney is doing to their parks today, but its obvious creativity and theme is NOT the priority in todays Disney theme parks.
But again, folks can rationalize....
Share the RCA lounge
Disstevefan1
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The way I see it, Walt won many battles and pushed for things, that even today, the parks a better off for it.
But Walt's vision is indeed being erased for business reasons and many are very happy for that.
K&KDizFreaks
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the most iconic Disney quote of all time.
“If Walt dreamt it, Bob will destroy it.”
“If Walt dreamt it, Bob will destroy it.”
mysto
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I agree terror is not core Disney.
Alien Encounter was truly great because it was so clever and unique. If you removed the terror that unique experience is gone, there couldn't be a kids' version of it. I would face the fear to experience the ride.
There are other examples, TOT is worth facing for the experience.