EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

lazyboy97o

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OR if a ride is made with 3D being a major component of it, just make the ride how you developed it and people who don't like 3D don't need to go on!

It's a crazy concept, I know, but everything doesn't need to be for everyone! If they make a coaster and during the development they decide they want it to have inversions, some people will not like that, and that's fine! They either go on or don't!

The sense of entitlement that a lot of people have these days, especially at places like theme parks where they are trying to have a vast number of different experiences for every type of person, is insane. These people are selfish and think that everything should be for only them. They're the ones who complain and are the loudest and cause Disney to do things like remove 3D from A 3D RIDE LOL!!!! Disney is the best in the game at having experiences for every type of person all throughout their parks, but these type of people want to ruin things for others just because they don't like it or their bodies (physically and mentally) can't handle it. Like I get it, 3D causes major mental strain on a lot of people. But that's on the individual to NOT GO ON A RIDE THAT IS 3D! That's not on Disney to stop making 3D rides altogether when they work so well for certain experiences, like Ratatouille, Flight of Passage, and Spider-Man for some examples.

(P.S.: I am talking about the Spider-Man ride in Islands of Adventure, and yes I know that is Universal and not Disney lol. Was just giving an example of 3 very good rides that use 3D as major components to make them work)
What’s entitled and selfish is going on a rant because someone made a suggestion that would enable people with disabilities and medical issues to also enjoy an attraction with absolutely no negative impact on yourself or ability to enjoy the attraction as you prefer.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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At first glance, I thought this was in the old countryside house at the beginning of the film, so I got excited thinking we’d get rouge granny with a shotgun!
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JohnD

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I am definitely in the minority here, but I can't stand people who don't like 3D and complain about it.

I used to love going to the movies and seeing films in 3D, especially the animated Pixar ones, as it really made the experience so much better imho.

On rides, it adds so much depth to the experience, and I would really be upset if they took away our 3D here as well in the future.
Yeah. I like it just fine but don't care either way on what they do. I can do 3D in short bursts up to maybe 15 min like the Mickey's Philarmagic. I almost always don't see a movie in 3D. I prefer standard there.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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I guess the big difference between my suggestion and your hypothetical is that offering 2D glasses is that offering 2D glasses wouldn't affect the ride experience for those that continue to wear 3D glasses.

I think most people would agree that there can be some reasonable accommodations if it allows more people to enjoy an attraction.

Think of Little mermaid and it's special wheelchair shell. This extends the standby line because if no one in a wheel chair shows up, that claim shell goes empty and wastes capacity. However, I'm glad that clamshell is there in case I am ever in a situation where I need it.
But your example of a wheelchair shell is accommodating to someone who has to be in a wheelchair, to be able to experience that ride exactly how it was intended still.

3D rides are made and intended to be experienced with the 3D, adding depth and elements that only a 3D image could give. Accommodating people who don't like 3D or can't handle it by giving them glasses that take away the 3D effect hinders the ride experience that it was supposed to be giving off. I get what you're saying, but I think it's a disservice to the imagineers who develop these 3D rides and having people go on it without it's main element part of it.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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What’s entitled and selfish is going on a rant because someone made a suggestion that would enable people with disabilities and medical issues to also enjoy an attraction with absolutely no negative impact on yourself or ability to enjoy the attraction as you prefer.
lol, ok buddy (:
You know exactly what I mean and the type of people I am referencing to in my post, but instead you reply to me to try to make me look bad.
 

Gusey

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I've seen a lot of people online asking how long until WDW gets these updates. Epcot already has the queue update with an artist scene, which is being added to DLP's where the 3D glasses station currently is WDS. I can't see WDW removing the 3D anytime soon without replacing that 3D glasses station, and I'd like to think Epcot's should already have some of the tech updates DLP's getting because this is the first major refurb for DLP's since it opened in 2014
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lazyboy97o

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lol, ok buddy (:
You know exactly what I mean and the type of people I am referencing to in my post, but instead you reply to me to try to make me look bad.
You’re making yourself look bad by not realizing that there are people who cannot experience 3D attractions. That it is no more a choice than a wheelchair is a choice. Offering 2D glasses wouldn’t stop you from using 3D glasses.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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You’re making yourself look bad by not realizing that there are people who cannot experience 3D attractions. That it is no more a choice than a wheelchair is a choice. Offering 2D glasses wouldn’t stop you from using 3D glasses.
If you actually read my entire post you would see that I said I understand there are people who can't experience stuff like 3D, whether its preference or disability. I'm sorry that I just think that's on the individual to know that they should sit these few rides/experiences out, and not on Disney to lessen the experience of the ride and how it was intended to be seen and ridden for anyone. If that's bad of me to think then sorry.

In my opinion, it's the same thing with a coaster. If someone has a preference of not liking coasters, or a disability that stops them from going on, using the example of providing glasses that takes away the 3D effect on the 3D ride, should then Disney also build another version of, let's say, Thunder Mountain that is not as fast or thrilling to accommodate people who prefer to not ride coasters or can't? Why is it so wrong for me to think that someone should understand themselves that they can't experience certain things and just not go on?

I understand that a 3D image and a roller coaster are two very different types of experiences, but I just think if a ride is developed to be seen with 3D image it's because that's the best way to show that experience Disney is trying to give, and I don't like that they would turn it off because someone either doesn't like it or actually can't experience it. I completely understand that it is a pretty extreme of a take, but I just think these rides and experiences are made and should be experienced how they are intended or not at all. Again, probably a very extreme take on my part.

Also, there are plenty of things I skip on every one of my visits. Some because I don't like it, and others because I can't. Like any experience that requires someone from the audience being picked randomly. I have social anxiety and skip all those things like monsters inc laugh floor, crush etc. etc. But I don't sit here and call Disney saying "Hey I think you should add a bench people like me can sit on and it's the *NO PICK THIS PERSON* bench because I never want to experience this in the fear I will be picked to be on screen as "THAT GUY" ... I just don't ever go on.
 

Purduevian

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If you actually read my entire post you would see that I said I understand there are people who can't experience stuff like 3D, whether its preference or disability. I'm sorry that I just think that's on the individual to know that they should sit these few rides/experiences out, and not on Disney to lessen the experience of the ride and how it was intended to be seen and ridden for anyone. If that's bad of me to think then sorry.

In my opinion, it's the same thing with a coaster. If someone has a preference of not liking coasters, or a disability that stops them from going on, using the example of providing glasses that takes away the 3D effect on the 3D ride, should then Disney also build another version of, let's say, Thunder Mountain that is not as fast or thrilling to accommodate people who prefer to not ride coasters or can't? Why is it so wrong for me to think that someone should understand themselves that they can't experience certain things and just not go on?

I understand that a 3D image and a roller coaster are two very different types of experiences, but I just think if a ride is developed to be seen with 3D image it's because that's the best way to show that experience Disney is trying to give, and I don't like that they would turn it off because someone either doesn't like it or actually can't experience it. I completely understand that it is a pretty extreme of a take, but I just think these rides and experiences are made and should be experienced how they are intended or not at all. Again, probably a very extreme take on my part.

Also, there are plenty of things I skip on every one of my visits. Some because I don't like it, and others because I can't. Like any experience that requires someone from the audience being picked randomly. I have social anxiety and skip all those things like monsters inc laugh floor, crush etc. etc. But I don't sit here and call Disney saying "Hey I think you should add a bench people like me can sit on and it's the *NO PICK THIS PERSON* bench because I never want to experience this in the fear I will be picked to be on screen as "THAT GUY" ... I just don't ever go on.
I think I see where the confusion is coming from... I am saying Disney should provide a choice of 2D or 3D glasses to each rider, not that Disney should ONLY be giving out 2D glasses... because at that point just turn the 3D off.

should then Disney also build another version of, let's say, Thunder Mountain that is not as fast or thrilling to accommodate people who prefer to not ride coasters or can't?
It's called 7 dwarf mine train...
 

doctornick

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It’s an odd choice for WDSP. Probably the last place I’d want to spend money in that park. I feel similarly toward Epcot. Spend the money in Future World.

They need at least one more ride in World Showcase. Doesn't have to be anything big, but something in one of the pavilions without a major attractions. I'd be fine with a simple clone like putting the Pinocchio ride in Italy or the Tangled ride in Germany.
 

Nickm2022

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They need at least one more ride in World Showcase. Doesn't have to be anything big, but something in one of the pavilions without a major attractions. I'd be fine with a simple clone like putting the Pinocchio ride in Italy or the Tangled ride in Germany.
Ive been wanting them for years to remove the alladin carpets from MK (as they block a huge area and don't match the Polynesian/pirate theming) and move it to either behind or next to the morocco pavilion. Also still say Italy should have a boat ride wether it be LUCA, Pinocchio, Lady and the tramp, or something like the upcoming Pixar cat film
 

Rich Brownn

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A lot of people don't like the 3D and prefer this attraction just 2D...
Too many "gags" were designed for 3D (like the hand reaching out and hitting a mousetrap). In 2D it will look weird. Plus without spacial separation things get distorted and sizes look off kilter (See: the Kong ride with its 200-foot girl or F&F were everyone thinks the guy is riding a helicopter when its actually a drone)
 

phillip9698

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Too many "gags" were designed for 3D (like the hand reaching out and hitting a mousetrap). In 2D it will look weird. Plus without spacial separation things get distorted and sizes look off kilter (See: the Kong ride with its 200-foot girl or F&F were everyone thinks the guy is riding a helicopter when its actually a drone)

I think the people who can't physically take 3D would rather be able to ride the ride with some things just looking weird than not being able to ride at all.

Sometimes just simply being on the attraction with loved ones is enough to make people happy.

The glasses seem like a great compromise.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Too many "gags" were designed for 3D (like the hand reaching out and hitting a mousetrap). In 2D it will look weird. Plus without spacial separation things get distorted and sizes look off kilter (See: the Kong ride with its 200-foot girl or F&F were everyone thinks the guy is riding a helicopter when its actually a drone)
They have run it in Paris in 2D a lot over the years. Just saying maybe it’s not so dependent on 3D as one would think.
 

Tha Realest

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OR if a ride is made with 3D being a major component of it, just make the ride how you developed it and people who don't like 3D don't need to go on!

It's a crazy concept, I know, but everything doesn't need to be for everyone! If they make a coaster and during the development they decide they want it to have inversions, some people will not like that, and that's fine! They either go on or don't!

The sense of entitlement that a lot of people have these days, especially at places like theme parks where they are trying to have a vast number of different experiences for every type of person, is insane. These people are selfish and think that everything should be for only them. They're the ones who complain and are the loudest and cause Disney to do things like remove 3D from A 3D RIDE LOL!!!! Disney is the best in the game at having experiences for every type of person all throughout their parks, but these type of people want to ruin things for others just because they don't like it or their bodies (physically and mentally) can't handle it. Like I get it, 3D causes major mental strain on a lot of people. But that's on the individual to NOT GO ON A RIDE THAT IS 3D! That's not on Disney to stop making 3D rides altogether when they work so well for certain experiences, like Ratatouille, Flight of Passage, and Spider-Man for some examples.

(P.S.: I am talking about the Spider-Man ride in Islands of Adventure, and yes I know that is Universal and not Disney lol. Was just giving an example of 3 very good rides that use 3D as major components to make them work)
This is a good point. Not everything is perfect for everybody. If things were at the design stage of things and they chose 2D over 3D, that would be fine. But they designed this attraction, and the overall experience, and the shift to/from physical 3D sets with 3D video as part of the integrated experience.

There is literally no experience that everyone can have coequally. There are blind or legally blind that have a greatly different experience than the rest of us. There are the deaf or hard of hearing that have a different experience than many of us.

It feels like a diminishment of the overall attraction for the great majority of the guests because the current experience may be suboptimal for a small portion of guests.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
This is a good point. Not everything is perfect for everybody. If things were at the design stage of things and they chose 2D over 3D, that would be fine. But they designed this attraction, and the overall experience, and the shift to/from physical 3D sets with 3D video as part of the integrated experience.

There is literally no experience that everyone can have coequally. There are blind or legally blind that have a greatly different experience than the rest of us. There are the deaf or hard of hearing that have a different experience than many of us.

It feels like a diminishment of the overall attraction for the great majority of the guests because the current experience may be suboptimal for a small portion of guests.
How would the existence of optional 2D glasses diminish the experience for someone wearing 3D glasses?
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
How would the existence of optional 2D glasses diminish the experience for someone wearing 3D glasses?
I don’t think it would. I’d be fine with that - perfectly good solution.

Removing the option of 3D completely for all seems suboptimal.

I do wonder - does the jerkiness of the ride cause glasses to be thrown off the riders, falling on the ground and causing the fickle trackless system to hard stop?
 

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