MK New Beak and Barrel - Pirates of the Caribbean-themed lounge

[Agent H]

A Pirates Adventure is still active in MK as are Agent P at Epcot, Wilderness Explorers at DAK, and the Star Wars missions at DHS. They added the elephant smell thing recently in the circus area of MK. They did remove Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom though, which I guess is what you are talking about?

(If anything of these things have been removed, please feel free to correct)

Minor thing but it’s not the agent P game anymore. It’s ducktales themed now.

 

[the_rich]

The bars aren't really the problem. The drunkards are. I think that's the optic a lot of people resent. If someone wants to grab a beer or a cocktail - enjoy their beverage - then go about their day. More power to them.

But that's usually not how things happen. See: Drinking Teams - When people come into a theme park with the express objective of getting hammered and wear attire that markets it to everyone, then yeah, it becomes a problem. When they make assclowns out of themselves - and become loud, obnoxious, and sometimes aggressive - it impacts everybody.
Not saying that is what it will evolve to at MK. But that's what it has evolved to at EPCOT.

Personally, I could care less if Disney sells alcohol or not in the MK. I do care (and very much care) if they don't have a plan control those who get out of hand.

Well with a 45 minute time limit it's going to be hard to get hammered. Not impossible, but it isn't the same as drinking around Epcot.

 

[Figments Friend]

An authentic pirate experience is getting wasted on rum, for sure, and tottering about like a drunken owl.

With the two drink limit, and 45 minute time slot, I do not think we shall be seeing much of that taking place at the Beak n’ Barrel.
Far better places for that…we all know em’.


Unless of course, said folks came over from Epcot or one of the Resorts already toasted…and are just going to ‘top off’ while singing along to a animatronic parrot.



I am going there, sober, but dressed as a purple dragon.
Yes, it is true.
I won’t need alcohol to feel like I am in another dimension.
The setting will do, matey.
And excited I be to fancy the place….!
Arrr…!


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[K&KDizFreaks]

Another potential immersive bar opportunity…

Switch out the interior Dumbo kids play area for a circus themed bar where you can interact with “Circus Folk” and enjoy big top themed drinks prior to loading your kids on the spinners.

 

[easyrowrdw]

People trying to find reasons to complain about an incredibly well themed bar that replaced an unused location, perfectly fits the land and park it's in, isn't forcing IP of the month where it doesn't belong, offers an experience not found elsewhere at MK, is completely out of sight and unobtrusive for people that aren't interested in it, and brings an updated classic MK AA back to the park

It was used, but Disney closed it and then just didn’t reopen it. It was used for kids before, not as much now. Regardless, I get the criticism of doing this when you have shuttered and neglected attractions and restaurants (like the one right across from this bar). It shouldn’t be an either/or thing but it feels like it sometimes

 

[BrianLo]

Adventurers Club remains vastly superior to the likes of Trader Sam, Oga's and this new Pirate bar

Disney has yet to, and unlikely ever will, build as good an experience

They're now more likely to have something like the Library as a one off venue that everyone struggles to get into.

I’m actually surprised the Adventurers Club isn’t making a comeback now that you say that. It seems retrospectively a bit ahead of its time; it would be quite popular with millennials.

 

[BrianLo]

I’m the clear target demo and don’t mind themed bars in the parks. Nothing against those who do. It looks quite well done, at least.

If this is a successful test bed for Magic Kingdom, I expect a similar setup for Villains or Haunted Mansion. HM having already been done on the cruises.

I think they want higher turnover in these places than a table service would achieve. But they can and should do some of their table services to this level.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I’m actually surprised the Adventurers Club isn’t making a comeback now that you say that. It seems retrospectively a bit ahead of its time; it would be quite popular with millennials.

But it would be more expensive for Disney to operate than these smaller niche bars, due to its size and number of live performers. It was built with the intent of having a cover charge/paid admission on top of food/drink sales

 

[BrianLo]

But it would be more expensive for Disney to operate than these smaller niche bars, due to its size and number of live performers

True. There might even be tolerance for a cover charge these days. Obviously it worked for a time financially back in the day and I’d imagine the levels of interest today would be through the roof.

Or like on a Disney Cruise they can get cheaper entertainment labour.

I still lament the Star Wars dinner theatre Restaurant as an adjacent proposal.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I think a lot of us here are "Disney Adults" to some extent, but I guess part of the whole debate around The Beak & Barrel is whether Disney should be catering to adult fans of the park who might enjoy things like a themed bar rather than mostly families with children.

I would also gently note that the answer to that question may also touch upon how much they should consider nostalgia when keeping certain attractions vs what is relevant to younger kids. If you dismiss "Disney Adults" when it comes to this, it is worth asking how much of the discussion about changes to the parks and existing attractions is based around what the "families with kids" demographic will enjoy vs what the "Disney Adults" think.

 

[donaldtoo]

I think a lot of us here are "Disney Adults" to some extent, but I guess part of the whole debate around The Beak & Barrel is whether Disney should be catering to adult fans of the park who might enjoy things like a themed bar rather than mostly families with children.

I would also gently note that the answer to that question may also touch upon how much they should consider nostalgia when keeping certain attractions vs what is relevant to younger kids. If you dismiss "Disney Adults" when it comes to this, it is worth asking how much of the discussion about changes to the parks and existing attractions is based around what the "families with kids" demographic will enjoy vs what the "Disney Adults" think.

Reminds me of the below quote attributed to Walt…

Although, I’m pretty sure booze wasn’t the prominent thought in his mind when he said that.

 

[Alice a]

I do wish they did more of not serving people were at visibly intoxicated and also escorting out (or at least to a "holding spot") people who are visibly intoxicated/causing issues

That can help with the people that arrive hammered as well vs just not having bars

I think they’re actually pretty good at this. My bestie and I were at Epcot during Food and Wine a few years ago when she sat down suddenly on the edge of a planter feeling sick.

We had been at a trade show in Orlando and were exhausted. We walked into Epcot via the International Gateway, grabbing a beer in England.

A few sips on an empty stomach, and she felt super-nauseous.

I left her at the planter to grab food, and when I returned, a guy in a Hawaiian shirt, built like a linebacker, was questioning her. He clearly thought she had been overserved.

I asked him outright if he was Park security, and he was

He was very nice, and once I explained the situation to him, he went on his way with a caution to keep it to one beer for the night.

So I think they’re pretty good about spotting drunks and moving them along. I’m glad we weren’t and that he believed us.

 

[GhostHost1000]

I may be in the minority here, but while I enjoy drinking some good adult beverages, I just wish they would stop pumping them so much in the Disney parks. It’s all about money moreso than the family experience and atmosphere now and this is further proof.

What I wouldn’t mind seeing instead is adult only after hours at Epcot. Open up the event booths year round as well. There’s an opportunity here I’m actually surprised Di$ney hasn’t jumped on yet.

 

[larryz]

But it would be more expensive for Disney to operate than these smaller niche bars, due to its size and number of live performers. It was built with the intent of having a cover charge/paid admission on top of food/drink sales

Well, raise the park admission another $20 a head, and there's your cover charge.

Since everyone paying can't possibly experience the themed lounge attraction, advantage Disney!

 

[larryz]

Reminds me of the below quote attributed to Walt…

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Although, I’m pretty sure booze wasn’t the prominent thought in his mind when he said that.

And the Bob Iger Corollary:

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I think a lot of us here are "Disney Adults" to some extent, but I guess part of the whole debate around The Beak & Barrel is whether Disney should be catering to adult fans of the park who might enjoy things like a themed bar rather than mostly families with children.

I would also gently note that the answer to that question may also touch upon how much they should consider nostalgia when keeping certain attractions vs what is relevant to younger kids. If you dismiss "Disney Adults" when it comes to this, it is worth asking how much of the discussion about changes to the parks and existing attractions is based around what the "families with kids" demographic will enjoy vs what the "Disney Adults" think.

In this specific case they reopened a space that has been closed since 2020 and was previously occupied by a Pirate dress up experience that, while not having an age cap, obviously was a more juvenile experience.

My bias as an adult is the bar is better, but because of the reservations, time limit and capacity issues, the irony is I'm not really more likely to go inside.

As I've said before though, this is still better than leaving another closed space in MK.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I may be in the minority here, but while I enjoy drinking some good adult beverages, I just wish they would stop pumping them so much in the Disney parks. It’s all about money moreso than the family experience and atmosphere now and this is further proof.

Is having bars everywhere like it's Halloween Horror Nights really generating significant revenue for Disney?

Or is the mark up on alcohol sales such that it's a low risk to set up a booth and bartender somewhere regardless of how much he or she actually sells?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Is having bars everywhere like it's Halloween Horror Nights really generating significant revenue for Disney?

Or is the mark up on alcohol sales such that it's a low risk to set up a booth and bartender somewhere regardless of how much he or she actually sells?

It’s making enough for them to justify selling more and building new themed bars

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

And the Bob Iger Corollary:
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Yep. Wonder how long until “Princesses Gentleman’s Club” opens on Boardwalk or Disney Springs.

It’d make a fortune with Gartner among others. I’m sure many of the “Drinking Teams” would be there too.

It could be right next to the ESPN Sportsbook.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Yep. Wonder how long until “Princesses Gentleman’s Club” opens on Boardwalk or Disney Springs.

It’d make a fortune with Gartner among others. I’m sure many of the “Drinking Teams” would be there too.

It could be right next to the ESPN Sportsbook.

Maybe they could bring back the Wizard of Bras mechanical figure that was at the Intimate Apparel Shop on Main St when Disneyland first opened