MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[mickEblu]

They would remove trees even if they were using a different plot.

What does this have to do with what I said ?

 

[James Alucobond]

I’m talking about the trees in the park that will be removed to plop down the cars ride. So, no not insane as they were all guest facing. Maybe you meant to reply to someone else?

There will be new trees in the new area, likely with a healthy mixture of mature ones as has been the case in everything naturalistic they've opened in recent memory (see: Journey of Water, Galaxy's Edge).

 

[mickEblu]

There will be new trees in the new area, likely with a healthy mixture of mature ones as has been the case in everything naturalistic they've opened in recent memory (see: Journey of Water, Galaxy's Edge).

Did I say it’ll be a desert wasteland? I said many mature trees will be lost. I’m guessing 90% or so of whats there now. In addition, most trees that will be newly planted will be young trees. So not as beautiful or as much shade.

 

[James Alucobond]

Did I say it’ll be a desert wasteland? I said many mature trees will be lost. I’m guessing 90% or so of whats there now. In addition, most trees that will be newly planted will be young trees. So not as beautiful or as much shade.

You stated an obvious fact of all new development in a way that seemed framed as a complaint. I'm actually not terribly sure what the point was, which is probably why people are assuming you're suggesting that there won't be significant transplanted mature growth and responding to that.

 

[mickEblu]

You stated an obvious fact of all new development in a way that seemed framed as a complaint. I'm actually not terribly sure what the point was, which is probably why people are assuming you're suggesting that there won't be significant transplanted mature growth and responding to that.

I’m not terribly sure what you’re rambling about. I was very clear.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

So how many of those mature trees are we losing for this project? 90% + ? That’s sad. Since people like to use Walt quotes (often times misusing them) I’ll throw this one out there…

“…even the trees will keep growing. The thing [the park] will get more beautiful every year.”

Ooh! I’ll reuse a dead guys quote to prove my point on the internet too!!


Here’s a few that show that Walt would want Cars here instead

“Times and conditions change so rapidly that we must keep our aim constantly focused on the future.”

“We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things.”

“I can never stand still. I must explore and experiment. I am never satisfied with my work.”

“Disneyland is like a piece of clay. If there’s something I don’t like, I’m not stuck with it. I can reshape and revamp.”

I say let’s take this piece of clay and reshape it and revamp it into something 10x better

 

[mickEblu]

Ooh! I’ll reuse a dead guys quote to prove my point on the internet too!!


Here’s a few that show that Walt would want Cars here instead

“Times and conditions change so rapidly that we must keep our aim constantly focused on the future.”

“We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things.”

“I can never stand still. I must explore and experiment. I am never satisfied with my work.”

“Disneyland is like a piece of clay. If there’s something I don’t like, I’m not stuck with it. I can reshape and revamp.”

I say let’s take this piece of clay and reshape it and revamp it into something 10x better

haha yes please tell me how they are trail blazing and pioneering by disregarding the design intent of an entire quadrant of the best area of the THEME park with this project. Also you do realize that Walt only had 10 short years with Disneyland and that everything that was changed or altered in that first decade was an Objective upgrade since all he was basically doing was getting rid of the stuff they had to build on the cheap when they ran out of money building Disneyland in one year and pretty much inventing the theme park. I’m sure nostalgic, Americana loving Walt, who made Main Street the entrance of his park would love to remove the Rivers of America for this Cars ride.

Class is officially in session son. Come back tomorrow for the next lesson.
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[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Did you know: Walt was actually the first one to utter the now-immortalized word 'Kachow!' - though it might have just been a sneeze or smoker's cough.

 

[networkpro]

I hope everyone knows Disney does try to relocate trees whenever possible.

And they have an extensive arboretum to the northeast of Magic Kingdom with acres of trees. It's fascinating to me to watch them move them.

 

[James Alucobond]

I’m not terribly sure what you’re rambling about. I was very clear.

I guess I'm wondering why you're surprised that people on a discussion forum are reacting to your complaint about the loss of mature trees with explanations of why that is normal, how it will likely be mitigated in the final product using past examples, etc. I suppose you just wanted to blog about temporary tree loss?

 

[HMF]

Wait just a gosh darn minute.... I've stepped away from Disney minutia for a few years (glad to see almost every discussion still devolves into a pointless semantic argument), and I have no idea what happened in Minnesota. What in the heck happened???!!???

June 2020, Shortly before Tiana's was announced, look it up. That is all I can say.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

haha yes please tell me how they are trail blazing and pioneering by disregarding the design intent of an entire quadrant of the best area of the THEME park with this project. Also you do realize that Walt only had 10 short years with Disneyland and that everything that was changed or altered in that first decade was an Objective upgrade since all he was basically doing was getting rid of the stuff they had to build on the cheap when they ran out of money building Disneyland in one year and pretty much inventing the theme park. I’m sure nostalgic, Americana loving Walt, who made Main Street the entrance of his park who would love to remove the Rivers of America for this Cars ride.

Class is officially in session son. Come back tomorrow for the next lesson.
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“Ooh! I’ll reuse a dead guys quote to prove my point on the internet too!!”

I suggest you go back in school to discover what a hyperbole is. This is so clearly a joke statement that I feel you couldn’t get a joke if i spelled it in bright neon lights.

My point was that bringing up what YOU think Walt would have wanted 70 years ago when he didn’t even see how this park turned out is a dumb and honestly disrespectful idea. You don’t know him. You never met him. All you have is an idealized sanitized version of what he and many others portrayed him as. Do not speak like you or I know him. He was a big fan of cars and the American life. Who’s to say he wouldn’t be a huge fan of a national park being featured in Disney World? Or another attraction representing the great American past time of driving. Who’s to say he wouldn’t absolutely hate everything that was Animal Kingdom. He would hate Star Wars or Muppets. Who is to say what he would and would not like. It’s not your or my business what “Walt would want” at this point. What everyone can do is make the park as great as possible.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I’m not terribly sure what you’re rambling about. I was very clear.

DISNEY DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING EVER AGAIN!! Think about the trees?

What about the rocks, the plants, just take a look at the fancy ants!!

 

[Chi84]

June 2020, Shortly before Tiana's was announced, look it up. That is all I can say.

Good because we don't need any more nonsense here.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Good because we don't need any more nonsense here.

Yeah or it would be time for me to pull up my “Am I going to defile the grave of Splash Mountain to argue a stupid point in the internet?” Meme

 

[mickEblu]

I guess I'm wondering why you're surprised that people on a discussion forum are reacting to your complaint about the loss of mature trees with explanations of why that is normal, how it will likely be mitigated in the final product using past examples, etc. I suppose you just wanted to blog about temporary tree loss?

How is it temporary? It is my guesstimate that 90% of the current trees on TSI/ the ROA will be removed for this project. They’ll obviously add new trees but based on the concept art it looks like it will be far fewer trees. Overall it is my estimate even after they plant the new trees we’ll only have 40-50% of the amount of trees that exist now at best. Do you disagree with this?

In addition it is my belief that most of the newly planted to trees will be young so not as beautiful and will not provide as much shade.

 

[Ayla]

Wait just a gosh darn minute.... I've stepped away from Disney minutia for a few years (glad to see almost every discussion still devolves into a pointless semantic argument), and I have no idea what happened in Minnesota. What in the heck happened???!!???

He's not-so-subtly referring to George Floyd.

 

[James Alucobond]

How is it temporary? It is my guesstimate that 90% of the current trees on TSI/ the ROA will be removed for this project. They’ll obviously add new trees but based on the concept art it looks like it will be far fewer trees. Overall it is my estimate even after they plant the new trees we’ll only have 40-50% of the amount of trees that exist now at best. Do you disagree with this?

In addition it is my belief that most of the newly planted to trees will be young so not as beautiful and will not provide as much shade.

All of them will be removed. It's possible some may be preserved to be re-transplanted, but also possibly not. There will be plenty of trees both mature and new in the new design, but there will also obviously be way more space than before allocated to rockwork, show buildings, attraction space, and wider walking paths. The visual effect will definitely be different, there will likely be fewer total trees as a result of the area's layout, and the larger access pathways will certainly be less shaded than the intimate paths of TSI.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that; most are just wondering why it's worthy of comment in this case when every expansion project essentially sees the entire area razed and leveled. This is not atypical. If you think the new area will be uglier and you prefer the lush wilderness of the Missouri riverlands, just say that. Otherwise, people will think you are trying to make a more specific point about significant tree loss during construction being unusual.

 

[mickEblu]

All of them will be removed. It's possible some may be preserved to be re-transplanted, but also possibly not. There will be plenty of trees both mature and new in the new design, but there will also obviously be way more space than before allocated to rockwork, show buildings, attraction space, and wider walking paths. The visual effect will definitely be different, there will likely be fewer total trees as a result of the area's layout, and the larger access pathways will certainly be less shaded than the intimate paths of TSI.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that; most are just wondering why it's worthy of comment in this case when every expansion project essentially sees the entire area razed and leveled. This is not atypical. If you think the new area will be uglier and you prefer the lush wilderness of the Missouri riverlands, just say that. Otherwise, people will think you are trying to make a more specific point about significant tree loss during construction being unusual.

You’re a trip man. Lol. I don’t even know what you re talking about anymore. First I’m complaining about something temporary. Now this. And stop talking for everyone. Nobody who responded questioned why it’s worthy of a comment. They had other non sense to say though. It’s worthy of a comment because I felt like commenting. How about that?

It’s not atypical to lose the amount of guest facing mature trees that are being lost because of this project? Are you serious? Please stop with the non sense.

 

[BrianLo]

And why they are on a WDW fansite for years, and why they don't do the same for Six Flags, the cruise ship they were on, or the mexican resort they were last at.

Am I a total freak if I own up to having been on all of those forums as well?

A Canada's Wonderland one at least, Cruise Critic and Flyertalk (Marriott) at various points in my internet life.

I suspect I'm a party of one.