MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[MisterPenguin]

RoA should have been replaced with two dozen flat rides.

And cabanas.

 

[Chi84]

And you still do and there still are…

There really are. The only thing that I truly dislike are the paid fast passes.

 

[Andrew C]

It's almost like maybe, people cared about Tom Sawyer and Davy Crocket 50 years ago and don't anymore.

I guess we go to every other Disney castle park that has some version of the river instead?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I mean…. You seem pretty enthusiastic about the change so they may be feeding off of that. Many of my friends in the steam train and antique vehicle community (of all ages) are sad.

But that of course misses the point…. Ideally Disney parks have something for everyone. Ragtime piano and steam trains for me…. And Winnie the Pooh and princesses for others!

Well, as I said before, enthusiastic is too strong ... But maybe - though often just share without knowing my thoughts or when I just tell them what is happening they say "oh, so nothing of consequence lost"

Personally I think they are underselling it

But I do think for a majority of guests this change will be a net positive

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

But I do think for a majority of guests this change will be a net positive

The majority for sure wants parades, fireworks and characters. And dole whips! Haha.

That’s the true common ground where the majority is clear.

Types of attractions are all over the map - “majority” is tricky to define. But I do expect the cars ride to be popular, yes.

 

[Brer Panther]

At this point, I would just replace Stich with... Stitch? and make it a better show. First off, scrap the chilli dogs, if you need a smell make it bubblegum as a funny nod to how people said they don't sell gum in the parks for a reason.

Honestly, if they're gonna close the Laugh Floor what with Monstropolis being added to Hollywood Studios, maybe they could put a clone of the "Living Character" Stitch show they have in Tokyo, Paris and Hong Kong in that theater.

As for the Stitch's Great Escape space... I have no idea. Elio's underperforming so I doubt it's gonna be THAT.

The Coco ride seemed cool.

Wasn't it gonna be another Soarin'?

 

[mattpeto]

The Coco ride seemed cool.

I hope we get it.

Not the boat ride at DCA (which looks lovely), but the Soarin’ type.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

This has nothing to do with being jammed with rides. That wasn’t the point.

Even in 1971 they would have removed attractions if they weren’t popular enough to justify keeping them.

The point you were replying to was that Disney world exists to make money. Always has and always will. How has and will continue to evolve.

They did remove the Swan boats after operating for just 8 years.

 

[FettFan]

What theme should they have gone with?

Random Adventuresland

 

[CoastalElite64]

This is satire correct? Who would be “outraged” by coco? Unless you are getting into politics?

It's not politics I think. Some park superfans just have a very specific view of what Frontierland should be in both time and place. I was surprised at how common that sentiment was.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It's not politics I think. Some park superfans just have a very specific view of what Frontierland should be in both time and place. I was surprised at how common that sentiment was.

Super fans would rather have coco than cars - im certain of that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The first plans I saw to remove the island and riverboat were created while Eisner was still CEO. Long before anyone planned to monetize LL.

Intercot, micechat or screamscape?

 

[peter11435]

Intercot, micechat or screamscape?

None of those. These plans were never leaked.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Intercot, micechat or screamscape?

Those were the days!!!!!!!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

None of those. These plans were never leaked.

I’m just teasing you…

But how would a “non-insider” like yourself pick up on sealed secrets?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Super fans would rather have coco than cars - im certain of that.

Not entirely sure of that…to be honest

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Did Be our guest and Gaston’s add any capacity?

Gaston’s a space for bout 12 people

Be our guest at first…but when it’s so overpriced that it sits rather empty now…not sure what good that does?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If the boat or the island were popular they could have been monetized. They weren’t. Which is why they are gone.

Lack of demand and popularity is why they are gone. You keep ignoring that.

Obviously the reason any park spends any money to put in anything new is to drive attendance and revenue. That’s why the park exists in the first place.

If it’s low throughput and becomes locked behind paywalls…then low popularity as a reason for removal falls short on the motivation list than increasing crowds and monetization…by a lot.

They are absolutely there to make money…and aren’t shy about losing some people’s money in order to extract more from other at a higher rate…and there’s nothing that can’t be defended there from a business standpoint. But no need to try and make it more “necessary” or “noble” than that. It is what it is and that’s fine to call it what it is.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So use the land outside the park and leave what is actually in the park for guests to enjoy and add ambience, instead of just tearing out RoA for more concrete and fancy rock work?

Stitch has been empty for YEARS. The fact that that is still empty but they’re paving over RoA, an area that people probably didn’t actually complain about despite what people say in here, is actually embarrassing. Tomorrowland deserved a reimagining way before Frontierland needed one.

It actually does when it’s called Frontierland? But I guess since you say it doesn’t matter, that means you don’t have one. If they were going to gut one of the central parts of the park, they could have at least found an IP that actually belonged.

You actually bring up a great point on the “theme” and priorities.

Stitch sits empty on prime real estate. With coveted Pixar space all around. Speedway is beyond obselete and a pain to operate…which would be the perfect cars spot.

The back rim in Frontierland is not prime real estate…and is now getting a huge earthworks project to compliment a cars ride.

So if you’re too cheap to redo Tomorrowland (that’s rhetorical) and you’ve now carved like 2/3 of Frontierland up (it’s not a winner theme anymore)…why not just shut the whole area down when you in sequence did a splash gut and a big thunder gut…and then just change the whole theme? You wouldn’t end up going much farther anyway…and it could be rethemed to a better transition to this new villains thing…which we have 100% certainty to be “confirmed to be unconfirmed pending further confirmation”

 

[Fox&Hound]

Can everyone please stop talking in circles? We get it. Every point about the value of TSI and the excitement for new things have been said over and over again. Nothing new is being discussed in this thread.