MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Ayla]

I love the rivers. But it was not being used like other parks. Disneyland has Fantasmic on their river. Paris has Thunder on their island. It’s a beautiful area and I can’t fault that. However, I am more interested in geysers that look like Yellowstone or mountains like the Rocky Mountains. That’s just going to be my preference.

Then visit the real thing.

 

[DisneyLeo18]

Why does a beautiful space that is absolutely integral to the aesthetic and storytelling of a third of the park and three of its biggest headliners need to be more “used?” Magic Kingdom did not lack expansion space. This position makes sense only if you have huge amounts of Disney stock.

Nah. Plenty of people (non stockholders like myself) are excited to see the rivers replaced with something new. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.

 

[Enjoy the ride]

Then visit the real thing.

If you can visit real geysers and mountains can’t you go visit a real river, old fort and riverboat. These things do exist outside of Disney.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Disney's Animal Kingdom.

There are cows and beetles in Cars.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If you can visit real geysers and mountains can’t you go visit a real river, old fort and riverboat. These things do exist outside of Disney.

Which is why we should have both!

 

[Tha Realest]

Nah. Plenty of people (non stockholders like myself) are excited to see the rivers replaced with something new. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.

Oh this is a fun game.

Plenty of people aren’t personally affected by the aesthetic beauty of the expansive hub and the underutilized castle, and have never - and will never - eat at Cinderella’s Royal Table. Think of the extreme roller coaster that could go in that footprint!

 

[Tha Realest]

If you can visit real geysers and mountains can’t you go visit a real river, old fort and riverboat. These things do exist outside of Disney.

Europe is filled with an embarrassment of historic castles. Why do certain parks need to be cluttered by them?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It makes sense that they would rather spend money on a new project that would have more lasting power over time, than continually shoveling money into their own oak island.

Eh… that’s debatable. There are parts of this project that make some sense. But some serious negatives as well.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I love the rivers. But it was not being used like other parks. Disneyland has Fantasmic on their river. Paris has Thunder on their island. It’s a beautiful area and I can’t fault that. However, I am more interested in geysers that look like Yellowstone or mountains like the Rocky Mountains. That’s just going to be my preference.

The RoA and island serve a purpose greater than their direct attractions. They create a space, make FL/LS fade off into infinite space. They form the river to the Hudson Valley Haunted Mansion, are the accompanying water to the Northeastern colonial harbour town of the area between HM and HoP, are the wilderness necessary for any frontierland. They add beauty, kinetics, meaning, spatial organisation. And tranquility - not every square foot of a Disney park should be loud and in-your-face exciting - this is not Universal. This area doesn't need loud cars to be 'used', because it is already being used, used to create an atmosphere, a Disney one, a MK one.

 

[Agent H]

Having seen what they did at Disneyland, I'm guessing they knew it wasn't worth the cost. It would have been a lot of money, for not a lot of return. It makes sense that they would rather spend money on a new project that would have more lasting power over time, than continually shoveling money into their own oak island.

You say this like oak island isn’t an interesting place.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

It was poorly conveyed and he didn't stick the landing. Not ideal but probably should have been closer to: The American West has always been about looking toward the horizon, believing in yourself, and carving your own path. It’s the story of hopeful miners deep in the mountains, folksy bears in the Northwoods, a princess from the bayou stirring up new adventures, and a city slicker racecar longing to chase the open air—all driven by the same spirit. Trailblazers forging new paths in the Frontier.

Then he needs a new speechwriter…

 

[Chi84]

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Thread 'Tom Sawyer Island's Imminent Removal'

Jun 5, 2025

So there is a closing date. The seventh of July. We are arriving from the Netherlands on July 14th and my heart is broken a little bit. I was hoping to run around one last time with our son. Just like I used to do with my brother. And to hop on the Liberty Belle and enjoy one last voyage.
Somehow the closing of this whole area bothers me so much. I think because for me it has the original Disney feeling. The general adventure and fantasy found in a place that is not pre-themed for you.
Do other people feel like this as well?

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There is a thread that was started for people to express their feelings on the attractions being removed.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

How is this still being argued? The river had to be removed because it was underutilized. It was underutilized because it was unwanted. The customers, not Disney, turned away from those themes and stories years ago.

You can't keep expending a park with attractions and areas going unused and unwanted. The customers still have to pay for the upkeep of those areas they are not using. Continually expanding the park, and leaving the unused parts would just result in increasing admission costs. Customers don't want to pay for things they're not using.

Then maybe they should circle back and replace Stitch…

 

[Incomudro]

This has been refuted before, frequently and at length. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.

The poster sounds like a bean counter for WDW.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Having seen what they did at Disneyland, I'm guessing they knew it wasn't worth the cost. It would have been a lot of money, for not a lot of return. It makes sense that they would rather spend money on a new project that would have more lasting power over time, than continually shoveling money into their own oak island.

I agree, Disney's theme park business is all about MONEY.

Disney's movie business, not so much.

Side note - I do believe there was treasure on Oak Island at one time but I think its long gone now. That said I have watched every season of the curse of Oak Island because I am a dreamer and I hope they find treasure.

I also hope we will have the fountain of nations back in EPCOT, again, I am a dreamer....

 

[Agent H]

How is this still being argued? The river had to be removed because it was underutilized. It was underutilized because it was unwanted. The customers, not Disney, turned away from those themes and stories years ago.

Tom Sawyer island works just fine without knowledge of the ip. They have signs at every part of the island explaining its significance and backstory.

 

[SamusAranX]

This has been refuted before, frequently and at length. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.

Took the words out of my mouth.

If anything I’m surprised that some still don’t grasp the concept that a properly made theme park with adequate capacity is going to have and need “quieter”, “underutilized”, “not as popular” attractions….otherwise, we get the WDW of today. Still somehow longer standby lines with lower attendance overall.

 

[Disstevefan1]

This has been refuted before, frequently and at length. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.

Universal is putting the park back into its theme parks.

Disney is erasing the theme from its theme parks.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Which area better evokes the feeling of an open frontier - WDW Frontierland before the walls went up or DCA Grizzly Peaks?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If anything I’m surprised that some still don’t grasp the concept that a properly made theme park with adequate capacity is going to have and need “quieter”, “underutilized”, “not as popular” attractions

Yes and…. The most visited theme park (although I’m betting it will be #2 soon) in the world needs to actually expand to allow more capacity. Which means adding to what is there - not replacing.