FettFan
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And I don’t. But I also don’t doubt that Imagineers will do great with creating an aesthetic that is honorary of the rivers, island, and natural elements.
And I don’t. But I also don’t doubt that Imagineers will do great with creating an aesthetic that is honorary of the rivers, island, and natural elements.
Right because animated cars fit right into a Frontierland theme? Couldn't be a worse location.So this is not Radiator Springs Racers?
Good move making this part of Frontierland and not its own Cars-land. RIP to Villains Land.
This has been refuted before, frequently and at length. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.How is this still being argued? The river had to be removed because it was underutilized. It was underutilized because it was unwanted. The customers, not Disney, turned away from those themes and stories years ago.
Disney's Animal Kingdom.Couldn't be a worse location.
Then visit the real thing.I love the rivers. But it was not being used like other parks. Disneyland has Fantasmic on their river. Paris has Thunder on their island. It’s a beautiful area and I can’t fault that. However, I am more interested in geysers that look like Yellowstone or mountains like the Rocky Mountains. That’s just going to be my preference.
Why does a beautiful space that is absolutely integral to the aesthetic and storytelling of a third of the park and three of its biggest headliners need to be more “used?” Magic Kingdom did not lack expansion space. This position makes sense only if you have huge amounts of Disney stock.
If you can visit real geysers and mountains can’t you go visit a real river, old fort and riverboat. These things do exist outside of Disney.Then visit the real thing.
There are cows and beetles in Cars.Disney's Animal Kingdom.
Which is why we should have both!If you can visit real geysers and mountains can’t you go visit a real river, old fort and riverboat. These things do exist outside of Disney.
Oh this is a fun game.Nah. Plenty of people (non stockholders like myself) are excited to see the rivers replaced with something new. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.
Europe is filled with an embarrassment of historic castles. Why do certain parks need to be cluttered by them?If you can visit real geysers and mountains can’t you go visit a real river, old fort and riverboat. These things do exist outside of Disney.
Eh… that’s debatable. There are parts of this project that make some sense. But some serious negatives as well.It makes sense that they would rather spend money on a new project that would have more lasting power over time, than continually shoveling money into their own oak island.
The RoA and island serve a purpose greater than their direct attractions. They create a space, make FL/LS fade off into infinite space. They form the river to the Hudson Valley Haunted Mansion, are the accompanying water to the Northeastern colonial harbour town of the area between HM and HoP, are the wilderness necessary for any frontierland. They add beauty, kinetics, meaning, spatial organisation. And tranquility - not every square foot of a Disney park should be loud and in-your-face exciting - this is not Universal. This area doesn't need loud cars to be 'used', because it is already being used, used to create an atmosphere, a Disney one, a MK one.I love the rivers. But it was not being used like other parks. Disneyland has Fantasmic on their river. Paris has Thunder on their island. It’s a beautiful area and I can’t fault that. However, I am more interested in geysers that look like Yellowstone or mountains like the Rocky Mountains. That’s just going to be my preference.
You say this like oak island isn’t an interesting place.Having seen what they did at Disneyland, I'm guessing they knew it wasn't worth the cost. It would have been a lot of money, for not a lot of return. It makes sense that they would rather spend money on a new project that would have more lasting power over time, than continually shoveling money into their own oak island.
Then he needs a new speechwriter…It was poorly conveyed and he didn't stick the landing. Not ideal but probably should have been closer to: The American West has always been about looking toward the horizon, believing in yourself, and carving your own path. It’s the story of hopeful miners deep in the mountains, folksy bears in the Northwoods, a princess from the bayou stirring up new adventures, and a city slicker racecar longing to chase the open air—all driven by the same spirit. Trailblazers forging new paths in the Frontier.
Then maybe they should circle back and replace Stitch…How is this still being argued? The river had to be removed because it was underutilized. It was underutilized because it was unwanted. The customers, not Disney, turned away from those themes and stories years ago.
You can't keep expending a park with attractions and areas going unused and unwanted. The customers still have to pay for the upkeep of those areas they are not using. Continually expanding the park, and leaving the unused parts would just result in increasing admission costs. Customers don't want to pay for things they're not using.
The poster sounds like a bean counter for WDW.This has been refuted before, frequently and at length. So in the interest of brevity and at the risk of being ever so impolite… this is really dumb.
I agree, Disney's theme park business is all about MONEY.Having seen what they did at Disneyland, I'm guessing they knew it wasn't worth the cost. It would have been a lot of money, for not a lot of return. It makes sense that they would rather spend money on a new project that would have more lasting power over time, than continually shoveling money into their own oak island.
Tom Sawyer island works just fine without knowledge of the ip. They have signs at every part of the island explaining its significance and backstory.How is this still being argued? The river had to be removed because it was underutilized. It was underutilized because it was unwanted. The customers, not Disney, turned away from those themes and stories years ago.
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