MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

dlr74

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Noticing that the entrance to this area seems to be in Liberty Square near the Haunted Mansion. Yet they are still saying it is "coming to Frontierland". Doesn't seem part of Frontierland at all. In fact it's physically separated from Frontierland.

Do we think Frontierland is consuming Liberty Square?
 

LittleBuford

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My point is that this seems more in the vein of clarification/reassurance than alteration. People can think whatever they want of the artwork, but my point is that I don't think people should anticipate something significantly structurally different from what was originally shown.
If, as you say, this is merely clarifying what was already hinted at but not explicitly shown in the original artwork, then the end result is still the same: more water than many of us expected. It’s a win either way (unless they’re totally tricking us and merely exaggerating beyond recognition what we’ll actually get, which is perfectly possible).
 

TheMaxRebo

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Noticing that the entrance to this area seems to be in Liberty Square near the Haunted Mansion. Yet they are still saying it is "coming to Frontierland". Doesn't seem part of Frontierland at all. In fact it's physically separated from Frontierland.

Do we think Frontierland is consuming Liberty Square?

It seems like they are talking about them more as a combined area, but still referencing Liberty Square, almost like it is a sub-land within the larger scoped Frontierland
 

hopemax

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My point is that this seems more in the vein of clarification/reassurance than alteration. People can think whatever they want of the artwork, but my point is that I don't think people should anticipate something significantly structurally different from what was originally shown. We now know with a bit more certainty what they're planning around the perimeter, but all the same buildings and natural formations suggested by the original art are still there. My concern is that people are taking this art as evidence of extensive revision when I don't think that's the case.
They've had almost a year to let it leak, to reassure people, that the water along the central corridor would remain. Why didn't anyone say something? People misreading concept art would have been an easy thing to remedy rather than let people simmer in angst unnecessarily.
 

James Alucobond

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They've had almost a year to let it leak, to reassure people, that the water along the central corridor would remain. Why didn't anyone say something? People misreading concept art would have been an easy thing to remedy rather than let people simmer in angst unnecessarily.
The general public don't sit around wringing their hands over things like this.

They gave more details because the closure is imminent.
 

hopemax

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The general public don't sit around wringing their hands over things like this.

They gave more details because the closure is imminent.
But Disney knows the people who attend their big D23 Expo where this was announced *do*. If those people have enough value to hold a splashy event every 2 years, it would be nothing to feed Scott Gustin a "Relax, the water is still there," message.
 

James Alucobond

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But Disney knows the people who attend their big D23 Expo where this was announced *do*. If those people have enough value to hold a splashy event every 2 years, it would be nothing to feed Scott Gustin a "Relax, the water is still there," message.
That is not how they have ever operated or probably will ever operate with regard to D23 communication. Early concept art is typically left completely uncommented.
 

Animaniac93-98

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This project is useful because it demonstrates once and for all that some posters will defend any removal. Nothing is sacred. Disney pushed it to the greatest possible extremity short of dynamiting the castle and some responded by contorting themselves to avoid disloyalty to the brand.

The castle is a bad example because Disney has already changed the one in HKDL and fans for years have said Tokyo needs to get rid of theirs because it looks similar to one half way around the world.

If Disney announced today that Cinderella Castle at The Magic Kingdom would go under the knife or be replaced, plenty would support it. As you say, nothing is sacred.
 

lazyboy97o

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The castle is a bad example because Disney has already changed the one in HKDL and fans for years have said Tokyo needs to get rid of theirs because it looks similar to one half way around the world.

If Disney announced today that Cinderella Castle at The Magic Kingdom would go under the knife or be replaced, plenty would support it. As you say, nothing is sacred.
And it’s hideous too.
 

unclejeff

New Member
Colonial Philadelphia and New Orleans are not the “frontier.”
Disagree. New Orleans was part of the “Wild West” historically, which is a big part of the inspiration for Frontierland. IMO there is certainly a way to incorporate NOLA and TBA into Frontierland that could work without being too historically inaccurate. They could start by moving some of the Western-style storefronts and CBJ closer to BTM. The jump from those to TBA to BTM needs to be resolved eventually
 

Dreamer19

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As a former Cast Member who grew up admiring the brilliance of Disney park design, so much so, that I once aspired to be an Imagineer, this decision is baffling.

When they butchered Splash Mountain, I figured that was the worst thing they could have done. Tearing out ROA is somehow worse and far more creatively bankrupt than I could have ever imagined.

It feels as if the people making these decisions have no idea what made Disney a pinnacle of creativity and ingenuity to begin with.

What a massive disappointment.
 

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