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Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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lazyboy97o said:
Epic doesn’t have the capacity to handle 20,000 people.
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There’s no way it’s that low, a 20,000 person capacity would put max annual attendance at 7.3 million, there’s no way they built a brand new park with half the capacity of their other parks.

My guess would be capacity goals of 30,000-35,000 a day, or about 12 million a year.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
There’s no way it’s that low, a 20,000 person capacity would put max annual attendance at 7.3 million, there’s no way they built a brand new park with half the capacity of their other parks.

My guess would be capacity goals of 30,000-35,000 a day, or about 12 million a year.
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I’m not guessing. The world’s most expensive theme park has lousy capacity.

Visitation can exceed capacity. A theme park isn’t like a theater where there is a strict limit. People visit for partial days. Nor do theme parks have a legally defined capacity. It is based on attraction throughput, but the operator is free to exceed their program criteria.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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lazyboy97o said:
I’m not guessing. The world’s most expensive theme park has lousy capacity.

Visitation can exceed capacity. A theme park isn’t like a theater where there is a strict limit. People visit for partial days. Nor do theme parks have a legally defined capacity. It is based on attraction throughput, but the operator is free to exceed their program criteria.
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If a company who runs theme parks that regularly see 10-11 million guests a year really designed a park for 7 million people they would have to be the worst ran company on the face of the planet. I don’t believe anyone could be that stupid.

Unless you’re strictly talking ride capacity which would be a totally different metric.
 
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celluloid

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
There’s no way it’s that low, a 20,000 person capacity would put max annual attendance at 7.3 million, there’s no way they built a brand new park with half the capacity of their other parks.

My guess would be capacity goals of 30,000-35,000 a day, or about 12 million a year
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To put it in perspective how low 20,000 attendance capacity is, Uni Hollywood is 25,500 capacity. A silly claim to think Epic is that low.
 
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celluloid

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lazyboy97o said:
I’m not guessing. The world’s most expensive theme park has lousy capacity.

Visitation can exceed capacity. A theme park isn’t like a theater where there is a strict limit. People visit for partial days. Nor do theme parks have a legally defined capacity. It is based on attraction throughput, but the operator is free to exceed their program criteria.
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Yeah, we are talking about daily.park attendance bodies in park numbers which is what was being discussed when you quoted me. The discussion was about more guest paying to attend may be possible than Disney's non MK parks.

It's over 20,000 attendance capacity...by a lot.
 
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Coaster Lover

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Giss Neric said:


The way Dolores Umbridge moves reminds me so much of Kylo Ren.

The transitions between screens and practical sets is flawless. I think this ride perfected it. I had to double take to see if it was actually an animatronic or screen.
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I love the Death Eater animatronic that physically moves between the two scenes at the start of the ride... I don't know why, but it really help sell it...
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Bayou said:
Its boaderline offensive that universal built from scratch and didn't get sightlines right
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I think the worst part, for me, is that you can literally just see right through a stupid fence in the first 10 seconds of the ride straight into backstage where cars/trucks are commonly seen driving... when you're at the ground level in the coaster... like we ran out of the budget for some wooden fence at least? It's ridiculous what was "spare no expense" vs "ehhhh good enough probably?"

Like we build giant buildings here to replicate the streets of Paris even tho they are mostly empty... and here... eh screw it let's just put in some chainlink
 
Tom Morrow

Tom Morrow

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donsullivan said:
It’s also shot from the hotel parking garage. Give it some time- they can just plant some trees that will fill that in over time.
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I at first missed the first picture, which appears to be from a hotel room window or maybe a hallway window. For those tiny trees to do any significant blocking, it's going to take like two decades!

I promise I'm not trying to crap all over everything about Epic. A lot of it is great! But, there are some sights and views that are not just "less than ideal", but much more on the side of bafflingly poor decisions or perhaps very significant oversights and it does bring the overall product down a little bit.

I'm sure I'm going to once again get the excuse that "the average guest doesn't care about unsightly views", but I do think - yes, for the price of staying at Helios, I think they will care.
 
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JT3000

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
Hey atleast the sight lines match the parks!
it’s giving you a preview of what you can see inside Berk, blank walls, trucks, and fences! Just like a REAL Viking village
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Remember what I said a few pages ago about some people being negative just for the sake of being negative? Well this is that. Yes, all you can see in Berk is blank walls, trucks and fences. 🙄
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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lewisc said:
How many guests care about views from a parking garage? The average guests? Probably an extremely small group.
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Must be honest and say that some backstage views from the parking garage aren't personally something that bothers me hugely, even if things like a berm are nice/tried and tested ways to minimise these issues.

In terms of room views, particularly with a tower like this I get that it is difficult to block all 'awkward' views. The main thing that sticks out to me is a point made earlier in this thread about the standards established long in the past that both Disney and Universal struggle to meet today. I am particularly thinking of the first essentially "in park" hotel at Disneyland Paris in 1992, where I'm sure there are carpark views and things of that nature, however they seem to have taken great care to consider the views of and from the park itself in its design. I am not sure either company would really take such care today and would probably just wave away these kinds of views as inevitable.
 

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