mickEblu
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So discontent = has no place ? So a huge portrait front and center is the only way to go about it?
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So discontent = has no place ? So a huge portrait front and center is the only way to go about it?
PiratesMansion
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What would you have preferred?
mickEblu
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Something a little less obvious and in your face. It would seem that they included that for super fans like us or maybe it’s just Kim’s tribute to her mom. If it’s the former, I feel that it kind of misses the mark and diminishes cool factor/ mystique a bit.
Disney using your face for a disembodied head in a Crystal ball in one of their greatest attractions ever built = very cool
Huge realistic portrait in a universally hated gift shop placed by imagineers who are over mining nostalgia and the great work of the imagineers that came before them because they lack the talent to stand on their own = less cool.
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PiratesMansion
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To be fair, most people haven't hated on the interior yet, the shop just opened yesterday.
I get that there are a lot of problems with this shop, but I don't think having a portrait of Madame Leota in a Madame Leota shop is the end of the world. I don't think only superfans are going to recognize Madame Leota, one of only two characters explicitly named on the attraction, who also has a speaking role and shows up twice. It's not like they put up a picture up of someone obscure that only superfans would understand the reference to.
Phil Holmes putting up a portrait of himself in Gaston's Tavern in Magic Kingdom when he was the one in charge of the park at that point? Agreed, super gross. Madame Leota in a Madame Leota shop? Fine with me. And better Leota Toombs' Leota than that of Jennifer Tilley or Jamie Lee Curtis.
And we don't even know the extent to which Kim Irvine was involved with this project, or any of the other projects that people have blamed her for when even she's not out front and center and explicitly involved.
Architectural Guinea Pig
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- In the Parks
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If you check the many video tours released online, the portrait isn’t front and center. It’s placed above the doorframe of the main entrance to the shop, almost in the rafters, so it passes unnoticed by the general guest and definitely isn’t in your face. I would honestly equate it to seeing Harold in the Guardians queue, as he’s pretty obvious if you know where he is, but only until he is pointed out. For the average guest it’s just a photo of a mysterious lady, along with a bunch of other portraits of haunted mansion characters along the wall. I will have to say though I am very disappointed that Disney actually user AI for some the portraits?
Also, I wanted to share this comment from youtube i found intriguing:
Consumer
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Disney doesn't have any in-house artists anymore.
Honestly, though, I'm less concerned about the moral and ethical issues of AI art and more upset that it looks like ****.
Too Many Hats
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The most impressive thing about this shop is the way it detracts from not one but two attractions. It obscures the view of the Haunted Mansion for guests walking south from Bayou Country, and disrupts the Mansion’s formerly-tasteful mausoleum transition back into Disneyland. Simultaneously, the bayou environment of Tiana’s is infringed upon by this bizarre suburban structure for riders floating by during both the preamble and finale of that attraction. Quite a feat.
Consumer
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I really like this tweet. Like is it not just a fog machine with spinning lights and a fan? What about this is hard to figure out?
Disney Irish
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Is it? A fog machine would require refilling, this doesn’t appear to be a fog machine. It looks more like a liquid to me.
lazyboy97o
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It’s not a fact.
VicariousCorpse
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Looks like rheoscopic fluid with a light and motor.
DrAlice
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But it isn't actually a fact. It's speculation that Disney used a kit to build the shop, and he reported it as fact. I think removing a video that stated something he couldn't prove shows he does have integrity. He's probably just as annoyed as the rest of us about the look of that monstrosity of a shop and jumped the gun with that video. That's my speculation anyway.
duncedoof
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It obviously can't literally be one of those kits because they've clearly built and installed a permanent structure. What they clearly did is they just ripped those off, so what's the difference?
duncedoof
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They actually resorted to shoving AI slop inside this building, just to get it over with! Why would everything else about it be hard to believe?
lazyboy97o
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The kits are also permanent structures. There are multiple kits of the same basic design because it is a common design. They’re all imitations of the same thing.
Nobody calls the Mansion proper a kit because they ripped off the design of the Shipley-Lydecker House. The parks are full of “ripped off” designs.
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duncedoof
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Nice deflection. His argument was that the painting it was stylistically wrong for the Mansion. It's okay to ignore it though, because it's a reference we recognize so we can clap to our hearts content?
The painting is corny. It's not an earned callback or sincere. It's just to get brownie points from forums like this one! The whole shop is kitsche of kitsche.
mickEblu
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Sometimes, someone comes around and says something better than you can. Today that person is you. “Corny” and “unearned.” Nicely put.
Professortango1
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Yeah, they sell these at places like TJ Max and Home Goods. The fact that the base fully connects to the base makes it even less magical as any magician can tell you that the appearance of the magical element being isolated makes it more impactful. Having a globe attached to a table with a 5-7 inch base isn't all that mystifying. Especially as they could have easily built a tiny pepper's ghost hologram that could be interactive or randomized to show different 3-dimensional objects within the globe.