But this is exactly why there is likely so much transmission on that ship in the crew. They are all vaxx’d, intermingling with passengers who are “mostly” vaxx’d, and also intermingling with whomever onshore. So, when they are together, off duty, they are likely being lax, and unknowingly spreading the virus to one another. Remember, they are masked at all times while working on the ship.
We do as we have immunocompromised in our family.
I wasn't even talking cruise ships. But since you are.... if these workers are hanging out in higher transmission areas then they should be masked. Full stop. Since we actually have no idea what cruise ships are like they should be considered "in public" and thus masking IMO, as much as it sucks, indoors. None of this at all is against the CDC that I quoted nor, if followed, would be the cause as you are stating.
That's true, and I'd like to see how NCL fares if they can get going 100% vaxxed.
I guess soon Federal transportation mandate will lift masks for trains, buses and planes by next month or so like Amtrak and NJ Transit.
I don't know about that... we're a month out and our cases are rising, not falling.
Not at our current infection rate. I fully expect DOT & CDC to extend the transportation mandate. If our declines heading into and through June would have continued, then maybe. Expect an extension for at least 60, if not 90 days.
I think this is where it’s gets strange. For a fully vaccinated ships crew, when off duty and in crew only areas, are they “home”, “in public”, or something else.
Yeah. I never worked on a ship and wasn't in the Navy. But is seems like a weird hybrid between an apartment, a dorm, and a hostel. Or maybe a WeWork type environment. It's great for a week as a vacationer (for us). I can't imagine living in their situation for months.
I really do not see that happening
A bar is a place of eating and drinking. How would you enforce masks there?
It seems to me the weak link would be interacting with passengers who are not vaccinated.
But if that were the case, then there would’ve been more guests effected in this outbreak. The fact that it is 95% crew seems to indicate it spread amongst the crew.
Maybe. I would think crew would have more interactions with guests then fellow guests do. Even in normal times I don’t remember many interactions with guests on cruises... but I remember many interactions with crew members.
Possible November-December if you're mind for expiring for masks.
Possible November-December when Thanksgiving and Christmas is about to start soon.
I would think the majority of the crew never interacts with guests. Lots of people cooking and cleaning and maintaining the ship. Similar to a hotel where most of the staff isn’t direct customer facing.
Would you say a majority of Disney World CM’s never interact with guests?