Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Commute time does not belong to the employer.

It makes the employees miserable and causes issues for the employers...however.
They own that whether they want to admit it or not...

jeez...you sound like you’re from Connecticut or something?

 

[DisneyCane]

There is no practical way to do that without vaccine passports and even that isn’t 100% secure. If I walk into Target or WDW and you are standing there with no mask am I supposed to just take your word you are vaccinated? How many unvaccinated people will just ditch the mask? Probably most. I saw that the CDC asked all states to remove pictures of their vaccine card from websites because there are online forums where people are sharing the steps to make a fake vaccine passport including copies of the template, the type of cardboard to buy and how to assemble it to look real. Crazy stuff that people will spend the time to figure that out instead of just getting a vaccine.

You can’t fake the percent of people vaccinated.

The CDC should have put serial numbers on the cards and had whoever filled out the card record the serial number in their records. Then, the card could be verified as real without the record holder giving out information. Let's say Mickey Mouse got his vaccine at Walmart and his card is serial #489749840.

If Mickey wanted to prove his vaccination status to Goofy, Goofy could go to a Walmart web page where Goofy enters Mickey's name and card serial number. If the name and serial number match then the web page displays a green check mark. No information has been given out other than to confirm that the card belongs to Mickey and Mickey voluntarily allowed Goofy to verify his card.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The CDC should have put serial numbers on the cards and had whoever filled out the card record the serial number in their records. Then, the card could be verified as real without the record holder giving out information. Let's say Mickey Mouse got his vaccine at Walmart and his card is serial #489749840.

If Mickey wanted to prove his vaccination status to Goofy, Goofy could go to a Walmart web page where Goofy enters Mickey's name and card serial number. If the name and serial number match then the web page displays a green check mark. No information has been given out other than to confirm that the card belongs to Mickey and Mickey voluntarily allowed Goofy to verify his card.

The states have that on the back end, it's just not linked to the card itself in any way.

It's also in 50 different systems, not one central system.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The CDC should have put serial numbers on the cards and had whoever filled out the card record the serial number in their records. Then, the card could be verified as real without the record holder giving out information. Let's say Mickey Mouse got his vaccine at Walmart and his card is serial #489749840.

If Mickey wanted to prove his vaccination status to Goofy, Goofy could go to a Walmart web page where Goofy enters Mickey's name and card serial number. If the name and serial number match then the web page displays a green check mark. No information has been given out other than to confirm that the card belongs to Mickey and Mickey voluntarily allowed Goofy to verify his card.

the covid vaccines have not been fda approved for use on mice or dogs....

goats - yes...don’t ask how or why

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The states have that on the back end, it's just not linked to the card itself in any way.

It's also in 50 different systems, not one central system.

and remember...that “confusion” was intentional for politics.

 

[Lilofan]

Uh... no it didn't.

They offered an opt-out, but it was never stopped/curtailed for people who wanted it.

Not exactly. If one wants housekeeping it is every other day service ( not daily ) and that does not include changing of bedsheets unless requested.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Not exactly. If one wants housekeeping it is every other day service ( not daily ) and that does not include changing of bedsheets unless requested.

I'm talking pre-COVID.

What you're describing is the temporary COVID setup.

 

[FormerMember]

The people who refuse to get vaccinated because they feel that they aren't at serious risk are selfish and clearly either haven't considered the risk of having a good outcome for themselves while spreading it to someone else who may not be so lucky or they just don't care that it's a realistic scenario at all. There are people out there who legitimately cannot get the vaccine due to an allergy or some other medical condition and there are people who haven't had the opportunity to get one due to lack of transportation to the nearest vaccination site, etc. When someone says, "I don't need the vaccine because I'll be fine if I catch COVID," they're admitting to a lack of concern for others and a lack of concern/awareness about the potential for more variants to pop up because of too many people with that attitude.

This attitude will definitely get them over the line.

 

[Lilofan]

I'm talking pre-COVID.

What you're describing is the temporary COVID setup.

Do you really think if WDW can save $$ by doing this type of service they will resort back to daily cleaning ? Not going to happen. Paying more for less is reality.

 

[sullyinMT]

The people who refuse to get vaccinated because they feel that they aren't at serious risk are selfish and clearly either haven't considered the risk of having a good outcome for themselves while spreading it to someone else who may not be so lucky or they just don't care that it's a realistic scenario at all. There are people out there who legitimately cannot get the vaccine due to an allergy or some other medical condition and there are people who haven't had the opportunity to get one due to lack of transportation to the nearest vaccination site, etc. When someone says, "I don't need the vaccine because I'll be fine if I catch COVID," they're admitting to a lack of concern for others and a lack of concern/awareness about the potential for more variants to pop up because of too many people with that attitude.

Or they don’t understand how vaccines work. My wife and I were able to educate friends of ours, who’s kids are fully vaccinated up to their appropriate schedule, how vaccines actually work to “protect the herd.” They weren’t opposed to the vaccine, just in no rush. Our little refresher over a few pints at the beer garden and they were in line for dose one by the time we settled the tab.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Do you really think if WDW can save $$ by doing this type of service they will resort back to daily cleaning ? Not going to happen. Paying more for less is reality.

It's not going to happen. Housekeeping service is BASIC hotel operations. Keeping the limitation would be like charging extra to get a pillow or toilet paper.

 

[Heppenheimer]

You can think it is ridiculous, and it may be. But we have to deal with the reality of what people are thinking. And right now, there is a sizeable group of people who believes that restrictions are not going to be lifted regardless of what we do. They believe people are going to try and impose masks and distancing forever. And so they don't see a benefit to getting the vaccine to them personally. You can argue that they're wrong, but that's what many people think. The only way to overcome that is to show that there is an *immediate* benefit to them getting vaccinated.

Then, vaccine passports it is. If people absolutely can't see the benefit in deferred gratification and understand that this is a team effort, then the only immediate benefit I can think of is to start limiting unvaccinated people to certain activities where they might pose a health risk to others.

 

[Lilofan]

It's not going to happen. Housekeeping service is BASIC hotel operations. Keeping the limitation would be like charging extra to get a pillow or toilet paper.

Exactly right, Basic, not going back to daily

 

[JoeCamel]

Do you really think if WDW can save $$ by doing this type of service they will resort back to daily cleaning ? Not going to happen. Paying more for less is reality.

They installed what in the bath area? Bulk dispensers?

 

[AEfx]

Please don't this really happen to vaccines and immunity now...I'm getting so afraid about this one. Is REALLY gonna happening?

Unfortunately, yes. I know folks don't want to hear it, but the truth is - this is not over, even once everyone gets this round of vaccinations. We don't even know how long these vaccines will last yet, let alone what variants they may or may not be good for. And of course, the virus continues to mutate as we speak, and it will continue to do so. At the very least, this is likely going to be a yearly-thing like a flu shot, that they will be desperately trying to keep updated as new variants keep appearing.

We aren't going back to "normal" any more than we did after 9/11. Particularly indoors - things like social distancing, plexiglass everywhere, etc. are not going to just magically go away.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Via CNN

A July 1 Covid-19 reopening plan — like one set out by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio on Thursday, which targets reopening “100%” by then — is a “reasonable target” given falling cases and rising vaccination rates, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director said Friday.

“We are focused on getting people vaccinated, decreasing the case rates,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a White House Covid-19 press briefing. “If we can continue at this pace, case rates are coming down, vaccinations going up, then I think July one would be a reasonable target.”

But Walensky was cautious about making specific predictions about what reopening could look like, saying “the virus has tricked us before.”

“We’ve had three updated guidances of what you can do if you’re fully vaccinated and we look forward to more as more and more people get vaccinated,” she said. “This virus has tricked us before. So I would like to sort of watch and see how it goes before making further estimations of what happens in a couple of months.”

 

[Stupido]

It can created greater efficiency for both the employee AND the employer beyond saving money.
In the NYC area, it is not unusual for people to spend 3+ hours per day in door to door commuting.
Leave the house at 7:15 am, get to your desk at 9am... leave the office between 5-7pm, get home 8-10pm. Rinse and repeat the next day.
So a 13-15 hour day, of which 8-10 hours are spent actually working at the office.
Remotely, the employee can put in a 10+ hour day.... just by flipping on their computer at 8:30 am and working until 6:30pm. They still get to sleep in longer than they used to, they can "get home" earlier than they used to, all while actually giving their employer more time.

It also cuts down on sick time (as people can continue to work from home when a little under the weather). Cuts down on personal time off (as it becomes easier for the worker to cut out for an hour to take their kid to the dentist as opposed to having to take off an entire day for the errand). etc.

This though.

I live in the NYC area and can confirm I used to leave my house at 6:30am, and wouldn't get home until 8pm. Everything you've said is one thousand percent true in regards to the benefits of remote work, less sick time and PTO are being used, and productivity and morale are through the roof.

Higher ups have actually noticed such a huge boost in productivity that they sold our two-floor office space on 48th and 3rd. Our company has decided that this setup works better for the company, and the employees, so it's truly win-win. They acquired a much smaller space in a different part of town for any meetings that require in-person meeting, so that's an option when deemed necessary.

There's a long list of benefits of a remote workforce. Sure, there will be those sticklers feel like they need a full in-person workforce, but don't expect that to be the standard going forward. I truly think the fallout of Miss Covita really will impact society in so many ways we aren't fully aware of yet. I expect a much more hybrid working experience with the option of working from home a few days a week to be extremely popular going forward.

 

[Lilofan]

They installed what in the bath area? Bulk dispensers?

Another cost savings. Remember all the soaps, shampoos , conditioners , body lotion bottles in the hotel rooms back in the day? Getting less , paying more..

 

[Heppenheimer]

Via CNN

A July 1 Covid-19 reopening plan — like one set out by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio on Thursday, which targets reopening “100%” by then — is a “reasonable target” given falling cases and rising vaccination rates, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director said Friday.


But Walensky was cautious about making specific predictions about what reopening could look like, saying “the virus has tricked us before.”

“We’ve had three updated guidances of what you can do if you’re fully vaccinated and we look forward to more as more and more people get vaccinated,” she said. “This virus has tricked us before. So I would like to sort of watch and see how it goes before making further estimations of what happens in a couple of months.”

The virus didn't even need to try very hard.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Another cost savings. Remember all the soaps, shampoos , conditioners , body lotion bottles in the hotel rooms back in the day? Getting less , paying more..

Honest to God, what are you even talking about? Comparing a change *made years before COVID* to a change *made because of COVID when tens of thousands of staff were laid off or furloughed* is not the same thing.