CaptainAmerica
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No they don't. In the past, ONE park would have EMH so resort guests would be drawn to that particular park. Now that all parks will have the same 30 minutes, resort guests won't consolidate on one.
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Do not expect to Rope Drop riding a Disney Bus
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UNCgolf
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Ideally, sure, but in practice the majority will be at the Magic Kingdom every day. People will skip DHS if they can't get a boarding group, and hardly anyone will be headed to EPCOT first thing -- that could change once Ratatouille and Guardians are open, but they'd have to open EPCOT much earlier too (I assume they will once everything is open, but who knows). There's no reason to wait and go to EPCOT at 10:30 if you could go somewhere else hours earlier.
The guests definitely aren't going to be spread out evenly across all 4 parks, and the shorter time period means it may be an overall wash.
No they evenly spread out to MK, DHS and AK. The only park that feels crowded ever is DHS
UNCgolf
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That's definitely not going to happen once the 30 minute period kicks in. The majority will go to Magic Kingdom. People with boarding passes with go to DHS, and there will definitely be other people who go to DHS and AK, but the MK will absolutely be busier than the other parks in that 30 minute period. It just may not feel as crowded as DHS because DHS is so much smaller.
CaptainAmerica
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Not "evenly" but "proportionately within the week."
Yeah, MK will get the biggest number every day, but it's not going to be PARICULARLY busy on Tuesdays, for example.
why do you think EMH everyday will cause this? People are still going to go to all the parks and with AK, DHS and MK opening around the same time it’s not like you can EMH MK and then rope drop park 2 (like you could with DHS Fall 2018.)
UNCgolf
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It won't cause it -- it's just SOP. There are always more people going to the MK on any given day than any of the other parks. So MK is going to be busier for those 30 minutes than any of the other parks will be, and since 30 minutes is a significantly shorter period than people are used to with EMH, it's not likely that it's going to suddenly allow people to ride more rides than they were able to under the previous system.
If it was an hour extra every day, that might be enough to actually make a significant difference. With 30 minutes, I don't think it's going to be noticeable.
doctornick
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I don’t think they are starting the new EMH until they return to more normal park hours (e.g. all the parks typically open at 9am). So it’s not like you would be able to rope drop one park and be able to make it another for rope drop.
Also many/most guests don’t have park hoppers
UNCgolf
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I agree.
My point is just that on any given day of the year, the Magic Kingdom is busier than the other parks. That extra 30 minutes in the morning is always going to be busier at the MK than the other parks for the same reason. People are more likely to visit the MK twice (or more) in a single trip than they are to visit any of the other parks, and there are also a bunch of new guests arriving every single day.
There will probably be some scattered days where another park has more early visitors than MK (mainly when a new attraction has just opened), but in general, there are going to be more resorts guests headed to MK than anywhere else, especially as long as Rise requires a boarding group. EPCOT will get a boost when Rat opens and again when Guardians opens, and DHS will see a surge if/when Rise goes to regular standby, but outside of that the MK will continue to draw the most people.
When taking everything into consideration, it's hard to see how the 30 minutes early will do much good for most resort guests.
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ToTBellHop
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Exactly. At the very least, Epcot would move to a 10 am open (9:30 for resorts).
CaptainAmerica
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What are you even talking about?
Magic Kingdom is going to get the most people even if there were zero extra minutes in the morning. I don't know why you're hell bent on comparing Magic Kingdom to other parks, that has nothing to do with what we're discussing. Magic Kingdom with a 30 minute resort-guest-only window is beneficial to resort guests compared to Magic Kingdom without that window. The fact that Magic Kingdom has more people visiting than Epcot has nothing to do with anything.
Dad 2 M & M
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What good will the 30 EMH do if the "moving" rope drop happens to be 45 mins BEFORE posted opening the morning a Resort guest heads to/arrives at a given Park?
How is that a Perk?
Further, what if the rope drop is ONLY 15 mins before posted Park Opening? Absorbing half of the Perk?
How is that a Perk?
Further, what if the rope drop is ONLY 15 mins before posted Park Opening? Absorbing half of the Perk?
UNCgolf
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Yes it does? I'm not sure what you don't understand about what I'm saying -- it's exactly what we were discussing. It matters for the breakdown of where guests are going to go for the extra 30 minutes every morning compared to the old EMH. They aren't going to be evenly spread out among all four parks; the Magic Kingdom will get the most, as you just described.
I never said it wasn't going to be beneficial at all. Of course it's better than nothing. The point is that it's likely going to be worse than the old EMH based on simple math, at least for anyone visiting the Magic Kingdom. It may be better at the other parks because of the MK drawing people away, but the really short window is still going to make it hard to do too much.
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There have been multiple rope drops in all the "lands" for years...this isnt' new to covid.
Exactly, but in Covid times there is only one rope drop, main gate. Once your in everything is open, so the speed walk is on to SDMT, Pandora, and one of the DHS attractions.
CaptainAmerica
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No...
If Magic Kingdom had morning EMH on Tuesdays in the old world, MK would get a *particularly bad* crunch on Tuesdays. When Hollywood Studios then had EMH on Wednesdays, Magic Kingdom would be a bit lighter as EMH-focused guests went elsewhere.
Dad 2 M & M
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Unless they've recently (like since December) changed DHS, there is a Sunset BLVD, Echo Lake (Indiana Jones side) and a Animation Courtyard Rope Drop, not just 1
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They’ve changed it.
Dad 2 M & M
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Thanks for the update
JoeCamel
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Speedwalk?
Before they changed to an in park rope drop (years ago) when the A&E M&G was first opened I watched a man vault the low fence in the center of town square with a 2 - 3 yo on his shoulders then sprint off down mainstreet.
Shortly after they started walking the crowd down the street with a rope barrier.
eta; Oh, there were suits milling around by the barbershop, they caught the whole thing live