Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[JoeCamel]

I don’t have a good source for worldwide. I bookmarked the CDC site that’s tracking the US vaccinations. It seems to be updated daily at some point in the day. I imagine worldwide will grow a lot now that EU approved Pfizer and Moderna is starting to flow out to other places. Should be into the 10s of millions by year end

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Did you catch the head medicos let the politicians step up to the Pfizer vac while they will get Moderna today?
Hmmm, tin foil says they know something......

 

[easyrowrdw]

And again, illegal Mexican border crossings can't be the reason for almost all the states' hospital shortages that they had in the past and are experiencing now. The entire state of California is spiking and experiencing bed shortages, not just border towns. And that was the original claim that started all this: that the entirety of California's shortages can be blamed on illegal immigration.

That wasn't the claim. It was a question in response to an article about LA county.

Not wanting to get into a political discussion but Is it possible that part of the problem could be people crossing the border into the US and flooding the hospitals?

 

[HarperRose]

Did you catch the head medicos let the politicians step up to the Pfizer vac while they will get Moderna today?
Hmmm, tin foil says they know something......

Based on the results from the trials, your tin foil hat is exactly that.

 

[HarperRose]

Please don’t loop in Wisconsin with California, our cases are dropping for the most part. The peak new cases occurring around Veterans Day. Here’s the most recent graphs from the Wisconsin Hospital Association:

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There was a single-day record number of deaths reported today in Wisconsin.

 

[GoofGoof]

Did you catch the head medicos let the politicians step up to the Pfizer vac while they will get Moderna today?
Hmmm, tin foil says they know something......

Spreading the wealth around. The big wigs went first...the underlings went second. They probably wanted to have some high profile people wait for Moderna.

If there was going to be a conspiracy the US Government would likely back Moderna over Pfizer since Moderna actually used Warp Speed and the vaccine was developed here.

 

[GoofGoof]

That wasn't the claim. It was a question in response to an article about LA county.

Why aren‘t San Diego County hospitals overrun? Lots of hospitals there a whole lot closer to Mexico. LA just isn’t that close. I just saw a news report that said they estimate 1 in 64 citizens in LA county are covid positive right now. That’s far more likely to be the reason for the hospitals being full than Mexicans streaming over the border and flooding the hospitals.

 

[Lilofan]

Why aren‘t San Diego County hospitals overrun? Lots of hospitals there a whole lot closer to Mexico. LA just isn’t that close. I just saw a news report that said they estimate 1 in 64 citizens in LA county are covid positive right now. That’s far more likely to be the reason for the hospitals being full than Mexicans streaming over the border and flooding the hospitals.

I've been in Los Angeles and have family living in the suburbs. LA has not only covid issues but more victims of violence, abuse etc filling up the hospitals compared to San Diego.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

It passed. People need help now, which is why it passed. The pork in the bill is disgusting.

The millions and millions of dollars given away to other countries could have been spent on American's, but, oh well, I guess.

This passed with the bill. Why the heck are they trying to put things like this in it when people are hurting. Wait, don’t answer that.. I know.

âItâs unconscionableâ: Outrage over the âthree-martini lunchâ tax deduction in the new coronavirus aid deal

The latest COVID-19 relief package reportedly includes a tax break on business-meal expenses that President Donald Trump has pushed for months.

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[GoofGoof]

I've been in Los Angeles and have family living in the suburbs. LA has not only covid issues but more victims of violence, abuse etc filling up the hospitals compared to San Diego.

Yes, for sure. LA is a major urban center while San Diego is a smaller city and doesn’t have the same demographic breakdown.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Why aren‘t San Diego County hospitals overrun? Lots of hospitals there a whole lot closer to Mexico. LA just isn’t that close. I just saw a news report that said they estimate 1 in 64 citizens in LA county are covid positive right now. That’s far more likely to be the reason for the hospitals being full than Mexicans streaming over the border and flooding the hospitals.

Sure. I'm not saying it is the explanation. You succinctly noted that the distance from the border to LA was considerable. There are issues in many other parts of the country (as noted) where obviously it's not the reason. It does seem to be an issue along the Texas-Mexico border so perhaps that's what led to the question about LA. I dunno.

My point was that the original question posed was not what was presented in the subsequent replies.

 

[Polkadotdress]

So....Desantis is holding a presser right now, stating that the CDC guidelines are "just that...only guidelines." Therefore, FL will not be following the recommended vaccine schedule, and will reserve the next level of vaccine allotment ONLY for the elderly. No essential workers.

As someone who's 20 yr old son IS a FT essential grocery store worker, you can imagine my frustration and anger.

 

[Miss Bella]

Why aren‘t San Diego County hospitals overrun? Lots of hospitals there a whole lot closer to Mexico. LA just isn’t that close. I just saw a news report that said they estimate 1 in 64 citizens in LA county are covid positive right now. That’s far more likely to be the reason for the hospitals being full than Mexicans streaming over the border and flooding the hospitals.

Latinos make up about 39% of the population and make up about 58% of the covid cases in Cali according to the last stats I saw. It is affecting Latinos disproportionately in most states. Its not because the travel more or don’t wear masks.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Did you catch the head medicos let the politicians step up to the Pfizer vac while they will get Moderna today?
Hmmm, tin foil says they know something......

IDK if youre joking but......

 

[GoofGoof]

Latinos make up about 39% of the population and make up about 58% of the covid cases in Cali according to the last stats I saw. It is affecting Latinos disproportionately in most states. Its not because the travel more or don’t wear masks.

Are the Latinos that make up 39% of the population in LA county coming over the border from Mexico and flooding the hospitals? Aren’t most of them US citizens and/or already living in the US? The original statement was that the problem in LA county was from Mexicans coming over the border flooding Us hospitals.

 

[MisterPenguin]

That wasn't the claim. It was a question in response to an article about LA county.

Right.

And if the premise is true for LA county, then what is the premise for North Dakota running out of hospital space?

 

[GoofGoof]

So....Desantis is holding a presser right now, stating that the CDC guidelines are "just that...only guidelines." Therefore, FL will not be following the recommended vaccine schedule, and will reserve the next level of vaccine allotment ONLY for the elderly. No essential workers.

As someone who's 20 yr old son IS a FT essential grocery store worker, you can imagine my frustration and anger.

I saw Texas is also not following and putting 65+ in the next group instead of 75+. The rollout won’t be even across states.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Latinos make up about 39% of the population and make up about 58% of the covid cases in Cali according to the last stats I saw. It is affecting Latinos disproportionately in most states. Its not because the travel more or don’t wear masks.

First: There are TONS of people in LA with Latin American roots.

Second: the reason latinos have a higher rate of transmission is because a lot of them have no choice but to live on top of each other, with multigenerational family members in lower SES communities while working minimum wage frontline jobs because they have been disproportionately affected by the system that doesn't allow them to succeed. But that's not a conversation for here, and frankly its one youre probably not ready to have....

 

[easyrowrdw]

I saw Texas is also not following and putting 65+ in the next group instead of 75+. The rollout won’t be even across states.

I saw that too. Elderly are far more likely to have negative outcomes. Of course essential workers are probably more likely to encounter individuals with the virus. That's a very difficult choice to make. I can see the rationale for both approaches.

I wonder if the population breakdown comes into play too. Florida has a large percentage of the population that is elderly. That's a lot of people at risk. Not sure about Texas.

 

[bryanfze55]

I saw that too. Elderly are far more likely to have negative outcomes. Of course essential workers are probably more likely to encounter individuals with the virus. That's a very difficult choice to make. I can see the rationale for both approachs.

If the goal is to save lives and reduce hospital and ICU admission, it’s not a hard choice - vaccinate the elderly and people with significant preexisting conditions. Healthy 20-year-olds are not particularly at risk of adverse outcomes.

 

[Lilofan]

First: There are TONS of people in LA with Latin American roots.

Second: the reason latinos have a higher rate of transmission is because a lot of them have no choice but to live on top of each other, with multigenerational family members in lower SES communities while working minimum wage frontline jobs because they have been disproportionately affected by the system that doesn't allow them to succeed. But that's not a conversation for here, and frankly its one youre probably not ready to have....

Bingo. Some I know not just in CA are creative in their living conditions. Sleeping in garages with portable heaters , multiple people using common areas as sleeping spaces etc. When a family member sold a car to a Latino, he went to their apt to collect the cash. He counted at least 4 mattresses in the living room alone not including how many else lived in the apt.