On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
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While I agree that Orlando’s economy is going to take a beating from this its much more diverse than you give it credit for. It’s a major player in the air and space industry, medical industry, video game industry and has a large university structure.
I would also say that Orlando’s crime rate is not even remotely like Detroit. Orlando’s murder rate ranked 35 in the US. Behind many metros like Nashville, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, etc. it’s also the 23rd largest metro in the US as well.

Orlando's somewhat diverse, but without tourism, it's done for. The aerospace, media, medical, and education sectors there aren't enough to sustain it.

As far as the crime rate, I'm not talking about Detroit's crime rate now. I'm talking about its crime rate before it collapsed.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Your opinion is nonsensical on its face. How many years of service do you have, Mr. Raleigh? I'm guessing castle pin?
I had about 3...20 years ago. So I supervised many. So I am well aware of the strengths and weakness of the average employee. But I never held disdain for them or looked down on them. Because that would indicate a failure of my parents...or my college professors.

That was 20 years ago...however.


...you got caught on this one. Own it and move on. So I can retract the “22stamps” label. That is not who you want to be and nor who you usually come off as.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
While I agree that Orlando’s economy is going to take a beating from this its much more diverse than you give it credit for. It’s a major player in the air and space industry, medical industry, video game industry and has a large university structure.
I would also say that Orlando’s crime rate is not even remotely like Detroit. Orlando’s murder rate ranked 35 in the US. Behind many metros like Nashville, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, etc. it’s also the 23rd largest metro in the US as well.
Orlando is built around travel. Even the chamber of commerce - known internationally as the “we’re all gonna be rich!” Pep rally squad - admits that Orlando cannot survive without tourism.
 

brianstl

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Orlando's somewhat diverse, but without tourism, it's done for. The aerospace, media, medical, and education sectors there aren't enough to sustain it.

As far as the crime rate, I'm not talking about Detroit's crime rate now. I'm talking about its crime rate before it collapsed.
Orlando might have a rough year or two. Their status will basically follow the country’s status, but it won’t become Detroit or another hallowed out 20th century industrial city. You just can’t pack up theme parks and off shore those jobs.
 

Castmbr

Active Member
Jeremy often delves into topics he has no expert knowledge of for clicks, but that was
mostly a rant to excuse poor storytelling

Isn't that just Youtube anyway... I just think it is funny that the rumor board has this attention with differing points of view. I am interested in multiple points of view to help inform myself and will use that to help shape my own opinion.
 

brb1006

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I don't know if you're familiar with TheQuartering. If you're not, well hopefully this post isn't deleted for being too "political".

TheQuartering AKA Jeremy Hambly became popular as a serial bully and harasser of female Magic the Gathering cosplayers (and used his channel to direct his viewers to do so as well). All over what he considered to be "inappropriate" outfits. So a bunch of women at these events were dogpiled with a massive amount of r*** and death threats among other cruel insults. Jeremy was banned from these events by the MTG owners over this behavior, and he continued to make content saying MTG hates men and are being controlled by crazy women and SJW white knights. He has also made countless videos about how women are the reason Star Wars sucks and are also ruining Marvel as well (I can't even count the amount of videos he's made ranting about Brie Larson). He's also a defender of the various extreme "mens rights" groups such as MGTOW and incels (deranged socially men who think all women are evil and fantasize about hurting and even killing them, which has led to real life violence and murder against women). He became irrationally enraged at Twitter users who said "Hitler/nazis are bad", responding with "yikes" and angrily labeling them "cringy SJW's". He deleted his Twitter the other day because he got butthurt at being called out for his objectively abhorrent comments and behavior.

I believe pheneix's information is legitimate and feel it's important to share it and have it break into the mainstream. But the few people i've seen sharing it on youtube thus far (including the aforementioned Geeks + Gamers and Clownfish TV from earlier posts) are a bunch of deranged losers whose channels are filled with tabloid nonsense wrong 99% of the time, colored with downright cruel hateful commentary. Content like theirs is highly inappropriate in general, but especially for a Disney website such as this. I recommend against clicking and sharing their videos.
Wow, also does this guy have something against Disney or something after that video about Iger and Disney?
 

UNCgolf

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Then has it gone down hill?? Look one of those psych questions.

It's like my 100 year old Aunt who reminsces of back in the day especially air travel. That means absolutely nothing to me.
I love MK since I first went in 2000 so while I believe you that it was golden but for it's still awesome

It has.

That doesn't mean it's bad now (if it was bad I wouldn't go), but you definitely get less for your money than you did 25 years ago, which is especially egregious considering it's far more expensive now.
 

Lilofan

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While I agree that Orlando’s economy is going to take a beating from this its much more diverse than you give it credit for. It’s a major player in the air and space industry, medical industry, video game industry and has a large university structure.
I would also say that Orlando’s crime rate is not even remotely like Detroit. Orlando’s murder rate ranked 35 in the US. Behind many metros like Nashville, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, etc. it’s also the 23rd largest metro in the US as well.
True that Orlando crime rate does not compare to Detroit but there are some sections of Orlando that one should not even venture in, day or night. It's unfortunate that some are near tourist areas.
 

dreamfinder912

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The plan was to have lowered capacity, but they were expecting to max out that capacity. They're not even coming close, which is why attendance is a serious problem.

I'm only on page 29 of now 79 so I know it's been said before and it will likely be said again somewhere before this post, but AP availability is garbage. I'm sure they'd hit closer to the target numbers if they released dates to APs. Give all the wiggle room to your resort guests up to say 1 week before their visit. and then dump their excess into the AP slot, and the parks will fill with people who would love to go and face no out of state restrictions but can't because the park passes just aren't there.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Wow, also does this guy have something against Disney or something after that video about Iger and Disney?
I don't think he actually knows or cares much about Disney beyond perhaps the Marvel and Star Wars IPs. I'm not certain. But I can say it isn't Disney specific by any stretch and he targets a broad spectrum of people, companies etc. I can't really elaborate further because it's extremely political and involves other words and topics inappropriate for this site (I don't enjoy going to the politics section either). Even my previous post is stretching it and I won't be surprised if it's deleted.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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Orlando is built around travel. Even the chamber of commerce - known internationally as the “we’re all gonna be rich!” Pep rally squad - admits that Orlando cannot survive without tourism.

Okay, #1, WDW isn't technically located in Orlando proper. It is located in Bay Lake and and Lake Buena Vista, FL. Universal is in Orlando. So if we are going to talk about the Orlando economy, but want to talk about WDW, then we need to clarify what area we're talking about: Orlando proper, or the Orlando area.

#2. People who work for WDW covers a broader living area.


Here's the breakdown according to the Orlando business website:
Leisure& Hosp 20.4%
Professional & business services 18.7%
Education & Health 11.9%
Retail Trade 11.2%
Gov't 9.8%
Construction 6.6%
Finance 5.7%
Manufacturing 3.7%
Wholesale Trade 3.3%
Transportation 3.2%

Fortune 1000 Companies Headquartered in Orlando: Publix, Darden, Harris, Wyndham, Tupperware.
Some Fortune 500 companies with operations/major manufacturing operations in Orlando: Lockheed Martin (5000+), Northrop Grumman, Aerojet Rocketdyne (1000+), Thales, L3Harris, leidos (500+), Blue Origin , Kaman ( no number = the number of area employees was not specified on website)

Additional companies with facilities in Orlando : Mitsubishi (500+), AAA (500+), Electronic Arts (500+), Accenture (100,000+), Acredo (1000+), ADP (50,000), Advent Health (50,000+), Publix (10,000+), HCA healthcare (10,000+), University of Central FL (5,000+),Holiday Retirement (5,000+), Goodwill (5,000+), Darden (5,000+), Siemens (1000+)

WDW (50,000+) Universal (10,000+) Seas World (5,000+)

The area is also looking to become a hub for Advanced Manufacturing: Amcor (packaging) AMD (semicondiuctors), FARO (3D measurement and imaging), Regal Boats, Siemens (all kinds of stuff- power), VOXX (electronics)

To clarify, the website listed # of employees by range, I gave the low end #'s. So 100,000 is really 10,000-50,000 employees and 1,000 is really 1,000-5,000 employees.
 

PhotoDave219

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State political pressure isn’t why they are open. They planned on having Disneyland open now, and that wasn’t because of state political pressure. It is the economic pressure of operating a business that lost their biggest sources of revenue that caused them to open and is keeping them open.

Thanks for playing, we've some lovely parting gifts for you.....
 

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