Flight of Passenge problems

correcaminos

correcaminos

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Tyaloo said:
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This one takes the cake - this woman (on the left), completely jumped in on my daughter's time with the Great Goofini! There is my daughter, on the right - trying to have her time which we stood on line and waited for. This woman just barged right in and posed with Goofy, got her friend to take her picture and walked off. The CM was telling her she was not allowed to jump line, but it was too late.
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That's just awful! So sorry that happened. Hope your little girl wasn't bothered by it really.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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helenabear said:
When I said real bladder issues, I was speaking of diseases, not just needing to go. I have an acquaintance who lives a pretty poor life due to a disease and she fought to get the DAS. Not my place to share her details, but it is beyond just a little problem or even bad IBS.

Per law they cannot ask for proof of disability, but they have strict rules on who gets it. If it can be fixed by mobility devices you are out. If it is a legitimate issue with lines (autism, PTSD, etc) they will give it. I've been on the phone and email with Disability Services and while their requirements on the site are vague, they really help you find out the best options for your needs. Can you tell I'm the planner and make all the calls?

The deal now is that you do have to wait 2 hours to get on FoP if that is what you want to ride, you just don't have to wait it in line. You also can only have a max of 6 using it and you can only do one at a time. It is linked to the bamd and the one with the disability has to ride or they won't allow others to do it. Guest services grills pretty severely to weed out fakers.

They got rid of the old way because people were using it and taking families on tours for a fee. So they made it fair by making all people wait the posted time to do the ride. It's really not a perk as much as a godsend for those who need it..

As an FYI for ME you likely could have just taken the next bus. They often run them ever 20 mins or so, but ask CMs just in case you miss it.
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Just a side note, IBS is a little more than "just having to go". But no it's not a disease.
The point was basically this-
raven said:
Every person with these kind of medical issues knows their limitations. If they know they cannot stand in line for more than an hour without having to use the restroom then they shouldn't get in line. You can't blame park management for your personal medical problems.
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I recognize my son's issues, and take as many precautions as necessary.. he doesn't eat or drink anything but water for more than an hour before a sports game, we use the restroom before entering any long queue at an amusement park. Does he still have an "emergency" sometimes, sure. But it's not anyone's problem but our own. Disney World has free Fast Pass selections, if someone has bladder issues/bladder disease then it would be even more important for them to utilize them...or skip a long line, as we did with Frozen.
If you have a party of 3 or more, then just wait in line together, and if someone needs to use the restroom let them leave and come back.. not wait 30 minutes or more to join their party. I don't think that's too much to ask of people.

The people who have legitimate disabilities will have other ways to wait for an attraction besides standing in the queue the entire time.. hence the pass.

Re: ME. Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately we couldn't wait. The CM's out front recommended a taxi. Saving $100 isn't worth the possibility of missing a flight.
 
Tyaloo

Tyaloo

Active Member
21stamps said:
Omg. Sorry!!! The same thing happened to us with the Jawas, but it was a mother shoving her kid to the Jawa..not the adult posing.
People are so rude.

Hopefully you got some photos of your daughter alone with him.
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I did - thankfully!! It's just shocking to see such blatant rude behavior!
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danyoung56

danyoung56

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I had a fun thing happen in the queue to Test Track. A lady was slowly working her way forward in the line. She got in front of the guy in back of me. I was just about to block her off when the guy said "hey, wait a minute - you were BEHIND me". She then said that it was more of a group pen and that there was no real line. He thought about it for a second and then said "But you were BEHIND me!" She got the message, and backed off.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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danyoung56 said:
I had a fun thing happen in the queue to Test Track. A lady was slowly working her way forward in the line. She got in front of the guy in back of me. I was just about to block her off when the guy said "hey, wait a minute - you were BEHIND me". She then said that it was more of a group pen and that there was no real line. He thought about it for a second and then said "But you were BEHIND me!" She got the message, and backed off.
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Test Track is a perfect example of rudeness! The way people push and shove is crazy.
We just hang back.. I mean it's the difference of what-- 30 seconds? Lol.
I always think that one of those shoving peeps is the same person who cuts me off at a red light..just to get one car in front of me, still stopped..with a line of slow moving traffic waiting for us on the other side. Haha
 
MightyMouse

MightyMouse

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I didn't see this scenario posted so please allow me to pose this question:

I have myself, DW, and daughters. Assume a ride with an interactive queue such as Winnie the Pooh with activities for the kids. What would you deem as correct etiquette for these situations? Do I continue to move up the line while my DW stays back a few minutes with the kids to play with the activities, and then they re-join me later? Do we all remove ourselves from the line and then re-join infront of someone after the kids have had there fill? (Judging by all the previous postings I could see this option being problematic) etc...

I have never attended a ride with an iteractive queue like this so I may be off base here, but I'm envisioning these play zones set up for the kids to remove themselves from the lines for a short period of time. Anyway, any insight would be helpful thanks.
 
MightyMouse

MightyMouse

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danyoung56 said:
I had a fun thing happen in the queue to Test Track. A lady was slowly working her way forward in the line. She got in front of the guy in back of me. I was just about to block her off when the guy said "hey, wait a minute - you were BEHIND me". She then said that it was more of a group pen and that there was no real line. He thought about it for a second and then said "But you were BEHIND me!" She got the message, and backed off.
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- "I'm sorry, were you next in line?"
- "Yes, yes I was"
- "Well quit complaining, you still are"

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danyoung56

danyoung56

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Yeah, you just kinda have to balance your frustration against confrontation. More often than not I'll just let it go, unless it's a really blatant request for me to move aside to make room for some yahoo.
 
larryz

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Tyaloo said:
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This one takes the cake - this woman (on the left), completely jumped in on my daughter's time with the Great Goofini! There is my daughter, on the right - trying to have her time which we stood on line and waited for. This woman just barged right in and posed with Goofy, got her friend to take her picture and walked off. The CM was telling her she was not allowed to jump line, but it was too late.
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"No habla Englais, I'm sure."
 
21stamps

21stamps

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MightyMouse said:
I didn't see this scenario posted so please allow me to pose this question:

I have myself, DW, and daughters. Assume a ride with an interactive queue such as Winnie the Pooh with activities for the kids. What would you deem as correct etiquette for these situations? Do I continue to move up the line while my DW stays back a few minutes with the kids to play with the activities, and then they re-join me later? Do we all remove ourselves from the line and then re-join infront of someone after the kids have had there fill? (Judging by all the previous postings I could see this option being problematic) etc...

I have never attended a ride with an iteractive queue like this so I may be off base here, but I'm envisioning these play zones set up for the kids to remove themselves from the lines for a short period of time. Anyway, any insight would be helpful thanks.
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I've done both. 7DMT I make him move with me, have had a couple of instances where people will walk right by me if I turn around to tell him to meet me now.. drives me nuts so now he just stays by my side.
At Pooh I did let him stay at the wall for a a minute or two.. the line moved right by it, so I let him go back to play.

We did Early Morning Magic last year.. you had the option to skip the queue entirely.. which is what we mostly did.. but at Pooh he wanted to go thru the regular line, and stop at each station.lol. We were the only ones there..it was great!
 
Minthorne

Minthorne

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All the merge points like in HM after the stretching room or TT after design are just tests of humanity. I'd rather let everyone go by than fight for a small bit ahead.
 
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djdan888

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21stamps said:
I don't think as many people who get some type of disability pass, at any park, not just Disney, actually need them.

That's not poking fun. That's an opinion. I don't think ADHD should get you a pass, and I don't think things like bladder disorders should get a pass.

Not everything is an attack on someone. We are still allowed to have opinions without offending or being viewed as an attack on a 'disability' or 'medical issue'... I hope we haven't become that sensitive.

My brother has severe ADHD, my son has IBS.. my parents dealt, and I deal. my grandmother was confined to a wheelchair due to medical reasons- at all times. Out of the 3 family members I just listed - she's the only one who had a valid need for a pass..and Disney gave her one.
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So, are you saying you want to set up shop and medically diagnose everyone with a disability at WDW? You obviously have a medical degree that you can 100% say you don't "feel" someone should have a disability pass. Its amazing that you can tell it without ever meeting the person or examining them. What is your trick?
 
21stamps

21stamps

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djdan888 said:
So, are you saying you want to set up shop and medically diagnose everyone with a disability at WDW? You obviously have a medical degree that you can 100% say you don't "feel" someone should have a disability pass. Its amazing that you can tell it without ever meeting the person or examining them. What is your trick?
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Um.. what?

I used very specific examples related to this thread and comments on this thread.. i.e. Digestive or bladder or ADHD.. all which can be bothersome in long waits, but in My opinion do not deserve a disability pass.

You are welcome to have an opinion too.. beauty of free thinking :)
 
Chef Mickey

Chef Mickey

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djdan888 said:
So, are you saying you want to set up shop and medically diagnose everyone with a disability at WDW? You obviously have a medical degree that you can 100% say you don't "feel" someone should have a disability pass. Its amazing that you can tell it without ever meeting the person or examining them. What is your trick?
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No, we can only have 2 extremes:

1) Design a medical facility with state of the art equipment to diagnose guests in real time OR
2) Give every single person who asks for a disability pass one without any vetting whatsoever.

There is NO middle ground on this PC issue that cannot be questioned or discussed.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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Chef Mickey said:
No, we can only have 2 extremes:

1) Design a medical facility with state of the art equipment to diagnose guests in real time OR
2) Give every single person who asks for a disability pass one without any vetting whatsoever.

There is NO middle ground on this PC issue that cannot be questioned or discussed.
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And don't dare have an opinion.. because then you're "making fun of" or "discriminating against".
 

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