WDW would have Been first to do this because MDE is the ideal system for implementing it. Having said that, I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibilities.
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RUMOR DLP to have paid FastPass
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Nubs70
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I'm speaking from observation at Cedar Point. The FP line for Millenium Force was just as long as standby.
Well, only the Premier Pass includes that privilege, and it's only after 4 pm (with restrictions), so I'm guessing it's their hotel room getting them FotL access...
Captain Barbossa
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If everybody buys the unlimited FP, depending on the price, wait times should be low for standby.
Bolt
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I'm just wondering - does every person at Universal buy the paid version? Is it just chaos everyday there?
SirLink
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This is fairly a mute point. DLP paid service is the equivalent to that of Uni's front of the line pass but not as simple. DL is one of a surcharge to book fastpass.
If anything comes to WDW it will be more of a surcharge and benefit style program.
-"Oh if you stay in the Deluxe MK resorts you'll be able to reserve 4 FastPass for MK
-"Oh if you stay in the Deluxe Epcot resorts you'll be able to reserve 4 FastPass for Epcot
-'If you stay in Club level you'll be able to reserve 4 Fastpass for any park"
-"You just bought $500 worth of merch have a complimentary additional Fastpass."
If anything comes to WDW it will be more of a surcharge and benefit style program.
-"Oh if you stay in the Deluxe MK resorts you'll be able to reserve 4 FastPass for MK
-"Oh if you stay in the Deluxe Epcot resorts you'll be able to reserve 4 FastPass for Epcot
-'If you stay in Club level you'll be able to reserve 4 Fastpass for any park"
-"You just bought $500 worth of merch have a complimentary additional Fastpass."
Kamikaze
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Lower free to standby ratio by 10%. Assign said 10% to paid. Boom, capacity for it.
While they have a lot of rooms, they don't have anywhere enough rooms to make this possible currently. A more likely system is to offer onsite guests more Fastpasses on top of the ones everyone currently gets. Obviously an onsite stay already gets you benefits in terms of when you can book them, so it will eventually be expanded. Just a question of when.
Not every guest knows much about FP and plenty of on site guests don't book their Fastpasses 30 days out, let alone 60.
I think if WDW wanted to make as much money as possible from FP, they'd be best off charging for additional FP booked. So when you book you'd get your 3 for free, if you want to make anymore I feel that's when they'd add a charge in.
I think if WDW wanted to make as much money as possible from FP, they'd be best off charging for additional FP booked. So when you book you'd get your 3 for free, if you want to make anymore I feel that's when they'd add a charge in.
Is 10% enough to make a new paid system worthwhile? I really don't know but have a hunch it isn't. My feeling is that if you take enough out of the existing pool to make the system worth it, it's going to be enough to really hack off a lot of your loyal fans they are being taken from.
A number of the headliner attractions already book up by 30 days out. Taking anything out of the pool is only going to make that harder.
We've visited over the 4th of July period. I've not experienced or noticed long wait times for Express Pass lines. If you're not staying at one of the three resorts or have an AP that include it, it's a pretty expensive option to add to a ticket.
No. The only time we experienced a wait of longer than 10 minutes for Express Pass was Kong, a month or so after it opened. Like I said, it can be an expensive option to add to a ticket.
Kamikaze
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It doesn't have to be 10%. I was just giving an example. Also, they would never know. Its not like the numbers are public. All they would see is that the FP are sold out for certain times.
So you think if people can't figure out exactly where the extra inventory went, they will be less upset and disappointed with the fact that they can't get FPs for the rides they want? But that's sort of the M.O. of WDW lately. They're just tourists. What do they know?
Regardless, nothing stays secret in this day and age. Of course guests will know if the capacity is cut. If they cut it enough to make the new system worthwhile, I believe it will be enough of a cut to hack off their guests.
Just another example I suppose where Disney would be taking something away that used to be included in a bast ticket and use it for an upsell. I guess I wouldn't be all that surprised to see it happen. But it probably would be the end of us visiting. And I'm not one who has thrown that threat around a lot.
SirLink
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That would lead to lower guest satisfaction and they would have to give inventory away to appease guests though. Hence why it hasn't been implemented. The parks need greater capacity before you can implement it.
Kman101
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I got shut down when I mentioned that WDW is leaving money on the table not charging for FP ... I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. They have to be looking at ways to get some money from it while still possibly having a 'free' option. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
Which brings up a good point. How would anyone know if they even "pulled" FP from the existing pool? Whats to stop them from just adding extra FP+ for guests who paid for them while leaving the existing amount the same? Its not like it would be illegal, especially if they word it correctly in the "terms and conditions". FP+ is simply an illusion anyway. The time you save using your FP+ selections is mostly negated by the longer standby times in the attractions/shows you dont use FP+ for.
SirLink
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Well Disney is in the business of selling overpriced hotel rooms they wouldn't let you buy it has an upgrade option they would simply say you want 4 FP per day any park you got to buy a Club Level room. Charging at the moment as an add-on value can't happen as the capacity is too low and maximum guests allowed in too any of the parks is too high.
What I can see is not only offering an expensive FOTL pass like DLP at WDW but monetizing FP times and re-rides
You want a 10AM for SDMT $15 bucks please, you wanna re ride TSMM thatll be 20 bucks please
Lets face it the only class of guest FP works for is the uberplanner. And the abiilty to plan specific rides at exact times would appeal greatly to these people
They wouldn't know with certainty. But many people knew when they were messing with the fastpass pools back when FP+ was being implemented. Standby would start moving a lot slower, fastpasses would start running out a lot faster, there are anecdotal clues the people would dissect online.
A whole new program can't just be snuck out of the old inventory without people starting to talk and wonder what's up.
And illegal? Of course not. Their circus, their monkeys. But ultimately it comes down to guest satisfaction, which I believe is down in general right now. They can't afford to let it slip even more.
They will probably impliment this to get extra revenue to shore up ESPN.