When do we think we will see concept art for Avatar Land?

[G00fyDad]

That is what it will be called according to JH.

Which means that it will probably be called Pandora.

I mean seriously, why would Disney do that? All of their "lands" have pretty short, one or two word names. Asia, Africa, Tomorrowland, Frontierland, Pixar Place, etc... Why would they name it something so long?

 

[NORMNB8S]

Problem is, while yes the movie made an insane amount of money and a certain segment of the population saw it quite a few times, the term Pandora is hardly unique to the films and not a terribly large cultural reference.

Knowing Disney, we will probably get something like:

James Cameron Presents The World of Avatar : The Wonders of Pandora

Yeah, that's a good point. It didn't really cross my mind, but when I hear Pandora, I tend to think of internet radio and not Avatar.

 

[G00fyDad]

Yeah, that's a good point. It didn't really cross my mind, but when I hear Pandora, I tend to think of internet radio and not Avatar.

Fair point. That being the case I still think they will keep it as short as possible. Maybe just "The World of Avatar". However, I seriously doubt Disney will slap Cameron's name on it even though he is the brains behind the vision here.

 

[MarkTwain]

Fair point. That being the case I still think they will keep it as short as possible. Maybe just "The World of Avatar". However, I seriously doubt Disney will slap Cameron's name on it even though he is the brains behind the vision here.

I dunno... they might be contractually obligated to. Keep in mind that this is one of the first non-Disney properties to be represented in a large way at WDW. I wouldn't be surprised if James Cameron (and his considerable ego) insisted that WDW market the land with both his name and the name of the movie on it, so guests wouldn't be confused who truly owned it.

After "Expedition Everest: Legend of the Forbidden Mountain" and "Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid," a name like "James Cameron's World of Avatar" doesn't seem too far off.

 

[Crockett]

What are the chances that anyone gives a hoot about Avatar anymore by the time this "land" is actually ready? Seems like it will be dated before it's even open.

If only I had a dollar for everytime someone said something like this concerning WWOHP back when it was being built.

 

[rsoxguy]

In the interest of keeping my little internet acquaintances happy, I now present to you all the latest concept art for the Avatar project. You can thank me with accolades as you feel led to do so.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Is it wrong of me to not be excited in the least about "Avatar Land"? Have seen only clips of the movie on cable and I am sure it was great in the theaters, but that said I have NEVER, in the 6 months after the movie came out and up till now heard someone say "You know what is a great movie, Avatar, you really need to see that". Have not heard it once. There are not books about it, failed to see any kids dressed like characters from it this halloween, ...It really makes no sense to me to invest this much behind a franchise that just does not seem to have an immense amount of juice behind it. I think they would have been better off with Beastly Kingdom and reversing the course and making movies based on original rides instead of rides based on movies.

 

[G00fyDad]

I dunno... they might be contractually obligated to. Keep in mind that this is one of the first non-Disney properties to be represented in a large way at WDW. I wouldn't be surprised if James Cameron (and his considerable ego) insisted that WDW market the land with both his name and the name of the movie on it, so guests wouldn't be confused who truly owned it.

That would be a huge mistake. And it would honestly be one of those things that make me cringe when I see it.

After "Expedition Everest: Legend of the Forbidden Mountain" and "Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid," a name like "James Cameron's World of Avatar" doesn't seem too far off.

I don't know why those names didn't occur to me. :shrug: I always think of them as Expedition Everest and The Little Mermaid.

In the interest of keeping my little internet acquaintances happy, I now present to you all the latest concept art for the Avatar project. You can thank me with accolades as you feel led to do so.

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::lol::sohappy:

 

[njDizFan]

In the interest of keeping my little internet acquaintances happy, I now present to you all the latest concept art for the Avatar project. You can thank me with accolades as you feel led to do so.

Oh great another meet and greet :lookaroun

 

[SyracuseOrange]

Oh great another meet and greet :lookaroun

And walk inside the mushroom...and you've got a gift shop!

 

[Gig 'Em Mickey]

So true. Larger than life, gravity defying, bioluminescent alien environments get so old so quickly. Next thing you know the will be building some sort of old west town or an attraction about 17th century pirates.

You sound like one of those people who got got depression after watching that movie because you wanted to live there for real.

Seriously you advertise your services on here and then decide to be a sarcastic JA? Great business strategy there, chief.

If you'll read my post I said the concept was cool, but if they keep it tied in with the MOVIE it could become stale. I'm talking the movie plots, etc. NOT the visuals/environment. Jeez.

 

[Dukeblue1227]

So true. Larger than life, gravity defying, bioluminescent alien environments get so old so quickly. Next thing you know the will be building some sort of old west town or an attraction about 17th century pirates.

Lawyered!

 

[Dukeblue1227]

You sound like one of those people who got got depression after watching that movie because you wanted to live there for real.

Seriously you advertise your services on here and then decide to be a sarcastic JA? Great business strategy there, chief.

If you'll read my post I said the concept was cool, but if they keep it tied in with the MOVIE it could become stale. I'm talking the movie plots, etc. NOT the visuals/environment. Jeez.

But what made the movie so memorable and so great was the visuals and the environment............

But then again just by saying that I must be one of those people who literally almost killed themselves because I couldn't become a Navi and fly on dragons.................... :lookaroun

 

[MarkTwain]

You sound like one of those people who got got depression after watching that movie because you wanted to live there for real.

Seriously you advertise your services on here and then decide to be a sarcastic JA? Great business strategy there, chief.

If you'll read my post I said the concept was cool, but if they keep it tied in with the MOVIE it could become stale. I'm talking the movie plots, etc. NOT the visuals/environment. Jeez.

Eeeeaaaasy there, killer. Master Yoda is by far one of the most helpful posters on WDWmagic. Seriously, go on the dining or trip planning forums and see who's answering half the questions there.

Anyway, I agree at the basic point that the land will succeed as long as it dedicates itself to the visually rich environment of Pandora, rather than the rather weak story... which I'm sure is what they'll do. As Master Yoda was saying, a fascinating world will continue to be fascinating even long after the story is forgotten.

 

[Master Yoda]

You sound like one of those people who got got depression after watching that movie because you wanted to live there for real.

It was touch and go there for a while but I managed to pull through.

Seriously you advertise your services on here and then decide to be a sarcastic JA? Great business strategy there, chief.

Been working pretty well so far as most people know a joke when they see it.

If you'll read my post I said the concept was cool, but if they keep it tied in with the MOVIE it could become stale. I'm talking the movie plots, etc. NOT the visuals/environment. Jeez.

The environment will be the most important factor as it is with most attractions. Movie and plot tie ins are largely irrelevant, providing they create a world you want to see. If the can create the Pandora we saw on the screen their most major hurdle will have been cleared. Just look at MK for an example. The vast majority of guests have never seen or even heard of Song of the South but the Splash is one of the most popular attractions in the park. HM and PotC were incredibly popular long before their movies came out and BTMRR has never had a movie. What all 4 of those attractions have is a great world that we want to visit and a pretty good story. You could even argue that HM and BTMRR have no story and are simply fun because of the environment alone. Pandora is an incredible environment that has the chance to eclipse any world that Disney has ever created. As long as they create even a half way decent story it will attract guests by the boat load.

 

[Gig 'Em Mickey]

No argument that you are knowledgable and helpful to a lot of people here. I just took exception with the sarcastic way you responded. You can disagree without trying to make another poster feel stupid.

And I totally agree with your last statement.

 

[Crockett]

You can disagree without trying to make another poster feel stupid.

This is Master Yoda you're talking about. The best way to handle posters like him and ChrisFla is to calmly agree (even if you think they are wrong), and always give full credit to their knowledge of all things Disney. It helps to stroke their ego, keep things calm around here, and prevents putdowns (whether intentional or not).

And to Mast Yoda, yes, your wisdom is correct as usual.

 

[Skipper Dan]

[Incoming Related Rant] If this project is actually called AvatarLand, and not Pandora, it will take my excitement level for it from an 8 to a 4...AvatarLand is such a stupid sounding name [End Related Rant]

Agreed, and with Rohde onboard, he probably wants DAK's theme to remain coherent, and seamless, so 'Pandora' - or something similarly realistic - seems more possible than AvatarLand.

:wave:

 

[Scuttle]

What are the chances that anyone gives a hoot about Avatar anymore by the time this "land" is actually ready? Seems like it will be dated before it's even open.

I wish for things like this they wouldn't cross market it with a movie. I mean the concept sounds cool and all, but seems to kind of limit its expandability when tied in with a movie, especially one that will probably be 6-8 years old before it's done.

I thought Avatar was a horrible movie, even though it was visualy spectacular and I think this will be pretty cool. Just concerned about it becoming stale rather quickly.

Listen I am just as skeptical as everyone else here, but there will be 2 more movies coming out within 2 years before the land is open and they will probably have run times over 150 minutes each. There will be PLENTY of things to recreate. Who knows what will be in those two movies. We can't just say they are limited when there are two more movies coming out and the prequel to them was absolutely mind blowing. Whether you liked the movie or not I think almost everyone will agree with that. I also think this is a make or break situation for Disney. This is a chance for Disney and WDI to get back on top and to show people, if any have forgotten, that Disney and WDI are the best at what they do. I am trying to be as optimistic as possible about AvLand, but I'm not. This project could be the hardest project WDI has ever faced. I would feel a lot better if the projected budget was closer to 1 billion instead of 4-5 million.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Listen I am just as skeptical as everyone else here, but there will be 2 more movies coming out within 2 years before the land is open and they will probably have run times over 150 minutes each. There will be PLENTY of things to recreate. Who knows what will be in those two movies. We can't just say they are limited when there are two more movies coming out and the prequel to them was absolutely mind blowing. Whether you liked the movie or not I think almost everyone will agree with that. I also think this is a make or break situation for Disney. This is a chance for Disney and WDI to get back on top and to show people, if any have forgotten, that Disney and WDI are the best at what they do. I am trying to be as optimistic as possible about AvLand, but I'm not. This project could be the hardest project WDI has ever faced. I would feel a lot better if the projected budget was closer to 1 billion instead of 4-5 million.

Really seems like the wrong horse for them to hitch a wagon to. As I mentioned before, this is a movie I never hear anyone talk about or reference. And the movies your talking about better be decent or what a fiasco. 10 years from now this "land" will will have people saying what is this all about? It reminds me a little of the Jurassic Park area at Universal. A much better movie to build a theme around and at least there, the dinosaurs are the stars....and even with all that said it seems a bit dated being there.
Maybe they could have recreated Alice in Wonderland...that would have been timeless. Heck I would love a Tronworld..but that would only fit in Futureworld or Epcot