New Technologies Coming to Disney and Universal

MythBuster

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Here is a great article talking about the new technologies coming to the Orlando area theme parks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/custom/tourism/orl-cover11x08feb11,0,6771195.story

Attraction designers are on a creative roll as they invent new thrills
Scott Powers
Sentinel Staff Reporter
February 11, 2008
Imagine the ride of the future, featuring the hottest theme-park trends and technologies: As a laser-guided, indoor-ride car moves forward, a robotic arm makes the seats rise and fall, swivel left and right, and spin, so that riders might feel as though they are flying with all the freedom of a butterfly.

The space they fly through is mostly dark but aglow with digital video images that appear three-dimensional and different to every rider, with high-definition theatrical sounds and other special effects making a storybook environment. The riders don't just fly through the story, they work devices that let them choose their experience, alter their movements, and interact with the images.

For the next round of attractions coming to Orlando --SeaWorld's new water park, Aquatica, due this spring; Walt Disney World's next big ride, Toy Story Mania, due this summer; and Universal Orlando's new attractions area, The Wizarding World of Harry Potter, due next year -- theme park executives are not offering many details. But they are setting up high expectations.

"Aquatica is like no other water park in the world," said Joe Couceiro, marketing vice president for Busch Entertainment Corp., parent company of SeaWorld and Aquatica.

"Toy Story Mania is the next-generation interactive, ride-through experience," saidTom Fitzgerald, executive vice president and senior creative executive of Walt Disney Imagineering.

"Wizarding World is probably going to bring to life the most stunning technologies across the gamut of ride-show experiences," said Mark Woodbury, president of Universal Creative.

The pressure is on to deliver on such boasts. Competition is heating up, with big, new tourist-destination parks springing up in the Middle East, China, Singapore and elsewhere.

Even some smaller, regional parks are now trying to develop high-tech attractions such as Universal Orlando's The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man -- the kind of rides that previously helped set Orlando's big destination parks apart from the rest of the pack.

"Spider-Man at Universal really opened a door. The Curse of DarKastle at Busch Gardens inVirginia is essentially the same ride -- and DarKastle reduced the costs," said Kenneth Eff, a partner in Orlando-based Attraction Design Services, which is developing rides for the new Hard Rock Park that opens in South Carolina this spring. "Since then, I think other parks are looking and saying, 'Well, we can get the same technologies as Disney and Universal, for a lot less money.' "

Audiences, too, are raising the bar. Theme parks must outdo the thrills, realism and control that people can now find at home in increasingly sophisticated video games and interactive Internet sites.

Consequently, hybrids of existing thrill rides and technology-driven indoor, or "dark," rides are being developed, said Bill Coan, president of Orlando-based ITEC Entertainment Corp., whose clients include Universal.

"You combine the best in theater effects with aggressive thrill rides, on top of which you're sitting on motion bases -- not only moving forward and backward, but rocking up and down and sideways," Coan said. "The dark-ride genre is still story-driven, but in large part it really needs good theatrical and cinematic effects to pull off the show because, doggone it, these kids growing up today are not going to want to see It's A Small World now."

Like his counterparts, Universal Creative President Woodbury declines to offer many details about future rides, includingThe Simpsons attraction that opens this summer and the Wizarding World rides to come later. He did say that Universal is pursuing technologies that let riders customize their experience -- choosing from among planned encounters and adjusting the intensity. Robotics that can adjust a rider's position will play "a very big role, and are enabling things to happen that have never happened before," he said.

Public records show that, in recent months, Universal has hired one of the world's top roller-coaster manufacturers and a large-structure construction company, as well as numerous show-technology and dark-ride specialists. But they would not talk about their projects, citing nondisclosure agreements.

"We want deeper levels of immersion, by using ride systems that are integrated to show systems that work seamlessly together," Woodbury said. "The Wizarding World is going to take that to a whole new level beyond Spider-Man."

Both Universal and Disney insist that the immersion of customers into a good story, not the latest technology, must remain the foundation of their attractions.

"Immersion is our stock in trade," said Scott Trowbridge, vice president for creative research and development at Walt Disney Imagineering.

"For us, the technology is always in service of the story," he said. "Say Midway [Toy Story] Mania: one of the coolest pieces of technology in that attraction is a really, really fast track switch that allows us to send vehicles into different scenes in a way we wouldn't have been able to do before. . . . We're all really excited about it. But we don't want our guests to think or care about it."

For Busch, the latest innovations stress immersing visitors into real-life habitats, not stories, said Couceiro. The company renamed its parks group "Worlds of Discovery" to emphasize what he calls Busch's specialty: educational attractions. Visitors might not want to be lectured, but they want more than thrills, he said; they want to leave feeling fulfilled.

"Jungala inTampa is a great example of that," he said, referring to the new attractions area that opens this spring in Busch Gardens Tampa Bay.

"It's the up-close encounters with the white tigers, or having an orangutan over your head, or doing a tug of war with a tiger with a rope pull. You have all kinds of different discovery caves that allow you to immerse yourself in this habitat," he said. "When you do that, you're being entertained, but you're also being educated whether you know it or not."
 

darthjohnny

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Very cool. Thanks for the article. :)

"For us, the technology is always in service of the story," he said. "Say Midway [Toy Story] Mania: one of the coolest pieces of technology in that attraction is a really, really fast track switch that allows us to send vehicles into different scenes in a way we wouldn't have been able to do before. . . . We're all really excited about it. But we don't want our guests to think or care about it."

Cool. So there will be variations within the ride. I can't wait to go on it. :D
 

Pete C

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It sounds like Universal's new attraction at Wizarding World of HP will set the bar again and leave Disney in the dust...just as Spidey did, and Disney has yet to touch that attraction almost 10 years later (as far as dark rides go). I think Universal is going to blow us away with this one. Disney really needs to step up their game...I just hope Trowbridge has some ideas left in the tank and didn't blow it all on Wizarding World before he left.

Toy Story Mania looks cool, but it's clear this isn't going to be on the level of Spiderman. Where is the Disney announcement for that big ride that will blow us all away? How are they planning to compete with Harry Potter? Not that Disney really needs to do anything to compete with Universal, but it would be nice to have some big E-ticket attraction to start drooling over. Right now I am most excited about Harry Potter as far as Orlando goes.
 

David

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I am big fans of Disney and Harry Potter and I am excited about the HP park opening up next year. As a whole, Universal does not offer to me the fun and atmosphire of Disney, although the Spiderman ride is sooooooo much fun.

I just wonder how much permanent damage HP will do to Disney. Over the long haul, I just don't know if it will hurt Disney too much, even though the initial hit might be substantial. Of course, if Disney continues to let Universal open such parks and attractions, then the playing field will become more level.
 

Fun2BFree

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I am big fans of Disney and Harry Potter and I am excited about the HP park opening up next year. As a whole, Universal does not offer to me the fun and atmosphire of Disney, although the Spiderman ride is sooooooo much fun.

I just wonder how much permanent damage HP will do to Disney. Over the long haul, I just don't know if it will hurt Disney too much, even though the initial hit might be substantial. Of course, if Disney continues to let Universal open such parks and attractions, then the playing field will become more level.

In the end, I feel that most tourists will definitely visit Disney, then decide to do the likes of Seaworld and Universal on top, whereas the number that do these but miss out Disney is substantially less. If anything, I expect there to be an attendance increase at Universal whilst Disney's numbers aren't hurt, and might even be bolstered by people making the trip to Orlando to see HP.

So uh, thanks Universal! :D
 

the-reason14

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It sounds like Universal's new attraction at Wizarding World of HP will set the bar again and leave Disney in the dust...just as Spidey did, and Disney has yet to touch that attraction almost 10 years later (as far as dark rides go). I think Universal is going to blow us away with this one. Disney really needs to step up their game...I just hope Trowbridge has some ideas left in the tank and didn't blow it all on Wizarding World before he left.

Toy Story Mania looks cool, but it's clear this isn't going to be on the level of Spiderman. Where is the Disney announcement for that big ride that will blow us all away? How are they planning to compete with Harry Potter? Not that Disney really needs to do anything to compete with Universal, but it would be nice to have some big E-ticket attraction to start drooling over. Right now I am most excited about Harry Potter as far as Orlando goes.

True, the tech. may be better at Uni, and disney may not have done anything tech. more appealing or complicated than Spiderman. But honestly it seems that Spidy didnt do much damage to disney at all as far as attendence goes. And I think in their eyes that may be the biggest factor. So while disney is doing rides like E:E, TSM, and soarin, uni is doing better tech rides, but the attendance at disney still seems to beat uni no matter what they put out. So I think disney is cool with it.

I guess Im just biased, but I get more excited about TSM everytime I hear about it. When it was first announced I was excited, then I didnt care as much, and now Im excited all over again. I cant wait for this.
 

kshark

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although there are some great attractions at other theme parks, the novelty eventually wears off.. nothing can create a magical feeling like disney!
 

Maerj

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Everyone always goes on about how high tech Spiderman is... its really a screen based ride, with images of buildings running in different directions to simulate motion. I was on it when it broke down, making it obvious how it worked. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the ride, I'm just saying that I don't think its as high tech as everyone thinks, IMHO.
 

ChrisFL

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Everyone always goes on about how high tech Spiderman is... its really a screen based ride, with images of buildings running in different directions to simulate motion. I was on it when it broke down, making it obvious how it worked. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the ride, I'm just saying that I don't think its as high tech as everyone thinks, IMHO.

Seriously? It's very high tech. There's 70 computers running at all times just to keep up with it. The ride has more motion than any other ride vehicle ever made AFAIK, and it's not just plain 3D images, the screens have to link up to the vehicles to make sure the 3D matches up, and they actually warp the picture to accomplish this.
 

Maerj

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Seriously? It's very high tech. There's 70 computers running at all times just to keep up with it. The ride has more motion than any other ride vehicle ever made AFAIK, and it's not just plain 3D images, the screens have to link up to the vehicles to make sure the 3D matches up, and they actually warp the picture to accomplish this.

I wasn't saying it wasn't high tech at all, lol. It's a great attraction, one of the best that they have there, I think sometimes people are just a little over zealous in praising it, thats all.
 

Pete C

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Everyone always goes on about how high tech Spiderman is... its really a screen based ride, with images of buildings running in different directions to simulate motion. I was on it when it broke down, making it obvious how it worked. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the ride, I'm just saying that I don't think its as high tech as everyone thinks, IMHO.

I don't think there is any question as to how it works...however it's the execution of the ride...the directing of the action that puts it over the top. The characters leap and seem to land on the cars. The giant screens are intermingled with huge sets throughout the ride and integrated seamlessly. The motion of the ride vehicle and ride film are so in tune it makes other simulators PALE by comparison. Again, it's not just the 3D, or the motion, or the sets, or the graphics...it is the integration. No other simulator is even close.

At one point parts of the physical set move downward while lights make you feel like you are rising to the top of the building. I've not seen this in any other ride, and the immersion is incredible. You know you aren't moving up, but...wait, are you? The tricks this ride plays on your senses is unmatched. By the end of the ride they have you in the palm of their hand...your sense of direction so turned around you feel like you are flying around over New York City and facing straight down at the end. There is a scene before the drop where you get knocked backward...the vehicle literally spins around to face another screen and you still feel like you are tilted on an angle. You are on flat ground the entire ride, so having your mind still feel this while the ride goes from one screen, does a 180 spin to face another, and still have you in the ride is amazing. The director of this ride is a genius. Curse of DarKastle is not in the same league using similar technology.
 

Slowjack

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It sounds like Universal's new attraction at Wizarding World of HP will set the bar again and leave Disney in the dust...just as Spidey did, and Disney has yet to touch that attraction almost 10 years later (as far as dark rides go). I think Universal is going to blow us away with this one. Disney really needs to step up their game...I just hope Trowbridge has some ideas left in the tank and didn't blow it all on Wizarding World before he left.
I haven't heard much about the actual attractions at HP World. Why do you say it will leave Disney in the dust? All I've heard for sure is retheming of existing attractions, and elaborate recreations of Hogwarts and Hogsmeade. What news is out there about attractions and tech?
 

Pete C

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I haven't heard much about the actual attractions at HP World. Why do you say it will leave Disney in the dust? All I've heard for sure is retheming of existing attractions, and elaborate recreations of Hogwarts and Hogsmeade. What news is out there about attractions and tech?

There is a new anchor attraction for the Harry Potter area that will use the Kuka Roboarm technology. They are claiming it is going to be the most high-tech ride ever built. Expect to either be flying around on a broom or in a car in a year or so.

Don't get me wrong, I actually prefer Disney World on the whole without question, but as far as being on the cutting edge Universal is a step ahead. This is why they stole Scott Trowbridge from Universal Creative...the guy is clearly talented and Disney needs some fresh ideas. Just wait a few years and we will see what he comes up with using Disney properties and resources.
 

ChrisFL

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There is a new anchor attraction for the Harry Potter area that will use the Kuka Roboarm technology. They are claiming it is going to be the most high-tech ride ever built. Expect to either be flying around on a broom or in a car in a year or so.

Don't get me wrong, I actually prefer Disney World on the whole without question, but as far as being on the cutting edge Universal is a step ahead. This is why they stole [SIZE=-1]Scott Trowbridge from Universal Creative.[/SIZE] I'd like to see Disney come up with a return volley to some of their creations.

It's still weird reading his name as a part of Disney now...
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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disney has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to the 18-29 market.

sure, they might have 0-17 with girls and 0-13 with boys, and they might have the 30+ market, but they really havent figured out the teenagers yet. DHS is supposed to be their answer to Universal, but Disney has NOT poured enough money into that property to make it a contender.

Yes, Toy Story Mania and American Idol is a nice start. But, they really need to start innovating. Spiderman was an innovation, toy story mania is not. Harry Potters new ride using the robotic arm technology is an innovation, the future family-friendly coaster at DHS is not.

Wasn't that the whole point of WED all that time ago? To innovate and entertain their guests. Creative risk taking is why disneyland/disney world exists. If they don't continue to take risks in every single park, they will eventually fall to people who are willing to take more risks.
 

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