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Is this the next PIXAR film after Ratatouille? Not TS3...

Connor002

Connor002

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PIXAR is usually very tight about upcoming projects... even if this is accurate, it's unlikely we'll ever know much more until the time comes for release.
 
imagineer boy

imagineer boy

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Hmm... I was kinda hoping for Toy Story 3 more. The title for that rumored movie is VERY unusual sounding, so I have my doubts.

I'd really love to see a sequal to the Incrdibles too.
 
JEDIsney

JEDIsney

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imagineer boy said:
Hmm... I was kinda hoping for Toy Story 3 more. The title for that rumored movie is VERY unusual sounding, so I have my doubts.
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I'm pretty sure that production on Toy Story 3 has been canceled.

Since Pixar and Disney weren't planning on working together anymore, Disney was going to work on Toy Story 3 themselves, without the help of Pixar.

Once Iger bought Pixar, they decided to ultimately scrape all plans for a Toy Story 3. Pixar doesn't like sequels.
 
imagineer boy

imagineer boy

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JEDIsney said:
I'm pretty sure that production on Toy Story 3 has been canceled.

Since Pixar and Disney weren't planning on working together anymore, Disney was going to work on Toy Story 3 themselves, without the help of Pixar.

Once Iger bought Pixar, they decided to ultimately scrape all plans for a Toy Story 3. Pixar doesn't like sequels.
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From what I read, they cancelled the Disney version of Toy Story 3, yet they're starting plans for a pure Pixar Toy Story 3. According to Disney War, Pixar has been wanting to do Toy Story 3 for a very long time now and make the Toy Story movies a complete trilogy.
 
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clarksfan95

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From what I've heard, Toy Story 3 has restarted development, but from the ground up....everything that Disney did solo was dropped and they are restarting pre-production. It'll probably be a good 3 to 4 years before we actually see any hint of this movie though.

According to Disney War, Pixar has been wanting to do Toy Story 3 for a very long time now and make the Toy Story movies a complete trilogy.
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From what I heard, Pixar wasn't that interested in doing Toy Story 2...they were more interested in original concepts and not going back to previously developed characters or story lines. When TS1 did well, Disney supposedly pushed for a TS2....Pixar eventually relented to the request.
 
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darthjohnny

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Why would Pixar be against sequels? They came out with Toy Story 2, didn't they? I think Tim Allen and Tom Hanks have signed on. Ratatouille will be the next project. The trailer is already out. But here's the thing. I thought The Incredibles would have been the last Disney/Pixar film, the I thought Cars was going to be. Now a new movie is going to be released that was announced just a short while after Disney bought Pixar. Isn't that a little fast? Did Pixar try to make a movie without Disney? And another thing, now that Disney owns Pixar, will merchandise continue to say Copyright Disney/Pixar?
 
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clarksfan95

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Ratatouille was Pixars way of making sure that they had something to show (and put in theatres) if their friendship with Disney went downhill. Ratatouille was in pre-production during the final stages of post production of the Incredibles and then was in production by a secondary crew while the rest of the staff focused on Cars.

Disney didn't have the power to tell them that they were not permitted to work on side-projects...so, they went ahead and did.

Pixar did Toy Story 2 at the request of Disney...they were not fond of the idea as it wasn't original (meaning totally original) - it dealt with already developed characters. Pixar uses Walts philosophy (sp?) of no sequels, while Disney kinda turned away from that idea for a fast profit (while also ruining their reputation as a company that turns out the best animated cartoons - just look at Hunchback 2 or Tarzan and Jane for two amazing examples of what goes wrong when animation sucks)
 
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darthjohnny

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But both Tarzan and Jane and Hunchback 2 were just film put out rapidly for home video. They are not supposed to have the same quality as theater-released films.
 
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clarksfan95

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But both Tarzan and Jane and Hunchback 2 were just film put out rapidly for home video. They are not supposed to have the same quality as theater-released films.
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True....but they are still "Disney" sequels. Look at Return to Neverland and Jungle Book 2 as well....both were released in theatres and in comparison to any other theatrical release were sub-par with animation.

In short though, sequels are never original...they already have pre-determined characters. The story can be original, but again...the characters have already existed. Pixar and early Disney philosophy focused around "no sequels"...Disney wanted Toy Story 2 and pushed for it, they wanted Toy Story 3 and when they couldn't come to an agreement went ahead with development on it without them. It's a lot easier to come up with a story that can be used with pre-existing characters than it is to come up with totally new and original characters..while still possibly using the same storyline. (I think that made sense...it made sense in my head.....)
 
PencilTest

PencilTest

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So far, Pixar has produced a total of one full-length feature sequel, and it did even better than its lofty predecessor. So I think there's something to be said for sequels that are done right (that's the important part).

I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with the idea of a sequel. Sure, the characters are already established, but that just means that the filmmaker gets to dig right into the story rather than spending time with introductions. Nothing wrong with that. Should every Mickey cartoon that's come out since Plane Crazy be considered somewhat inferior simply because the character is already established? (Not that anyone implied that, I'm simply commenting on the notion that sequels are regarded as inferior product)

I think they have to be judged on a case-by-case basis, not to mention the "desire-to-see-it" factor. Do I want to know what happens after "Happily Ever After" in Cinderella 2, 3, or 4? Nope. But would I like to see John Lasseter make Toy Story 3? You bet. As long as it's a great story all the essential elements are still there ('cept for Jim Varney, of course).

Now, having said all that, would I wanna see Pixar make sequels out of all their movies? Nuh-uh. There's gotta be balance. When Disney puts out more sequels per year than feature films, there's a clear problem.
 
PSU_Princess

PSU_Princess

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Is it true that Toy Story 2 was supposed to be a direct to video release? Around the time that it was released someone told me that it was originally to be direct to video but then they decided to release it in theaters.
 
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darthjohnny

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clarksfan95 said:
True....but they are still "Disney" sequels. Look at Return to Neverland and Jungle Book 2 as well....both were released in theatres and in comparison to any other theatrical release were sub-par with animation.

In short though, sequels are never original...they already have pre-determined characters. The story can be original, but again...the characters have already existed. Pixar and early Disney philosophy focused around "no sequels"...Disney wanted Toy Story 2 and pushed for it, they wanted Toy Story 3 and when they couldn't come to an agreement went ahead with development on it without them. It's a lot easier to come up with a story that can be used with pre-existing characters than it is to come up with totally new and original characters..while still possibly using the same storyline. (I think that made sense...it made sense in my head.....)
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But Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest was a sequel and it was very original and very awesome!:D
 
JEDIsney

JEDIsney

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clarksfan95 said:
From what I heard, Pixar wasn't that interested in doing Toy Story 2...they were more interested in original concepts and not going back to previously developed characters or story lines. When TS1 did well, Disney supposedly pushed for a TS2....Pixar eventually relented to the request.
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This is what I meant in my original post, thanks for backing it up.

PSU_Princess said:
Is it true that Toy Story 2 was supposed to be a direct to video release? Around the time that it was released someone told me that it was originally to be direct to video but then they decided to release it in theaters.
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Yes, it was originally supposed to be a direct-to-video release.
 
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darthjohnny

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clarksfan95 said:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/ratatouille/

There ya go...for those who haven't seen it.

It doesn't do anything for me...but, maybe when more in-depth trailers come out i'll be a little more excited...
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I've tried to see it, but I can't seem to load the Quicktime movie. It just shows up with the Quicktime Q and a question mark, even though I have already downloaded Quicktime 7 and my other Quicktime movies I have downloaded are working fine.
 

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