MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

[wdwmagic]

I really just want to circle back to why it was nonsense that so many were buying into the last patent being for this ride. In no way did that describe anything they have shown specifically for the Piston Peak off road main attraction.

The We Call it Imagineering segment in Steve’s article again briefly highlighted the bus bar as described in this patent or similar.

Some of us had confidence the first patent was for the smaller ride, so this second patent slots alongside that very nicely for the two attractions.

 

[BrianLo]

Feels like two entirely different things to me.

As a father, I truly do not understand the obsession of many to dump the speedway. And the continued obsession of “but how much revenue does x/y/Z generate”? Makes me want to punch my screen.

It would be nice if they somehow modernized it. It’s notable how weak it is compared to Disneyland or formerly Hong Kong’s. Even if it doesn’t granularly change into something more terrain based or interesting, allowing a second lap would be a way of improving the experience with electrified vehicles.

 

[BrianLo]

Some of us had confidence the first patent was for the smaller ride, so this second patent slots alongside that very nicely for the two attractions.

Ditto. It makes for a fairly interesting ride experience that sets itself sufficiently apart from Radiator Springs Racers. It will never compare well, but if the comparison can be broken sufficiently that will serve it well.

 

[Incomudro]

I really just want to circle back to why it was nonsense that so many were buying into the last patent being for this ride. In no way did that describe anything they have shown specifically for the Piston Peak off road main attraction.

The We Call it Imagineering segment in Steve’s article again briefly highlighted the bus bar as described in this patent or similar.

Guilty.
I originally thought the first patent release was for a smaller spinner type ride.
Then I opened up to the possibility that it might be for the main attraction, largely due to the fact that we hadn't really gotten any confirmation as to how these ride vehicles were going to move.

 

[mattpeto]

I really just want to circle back to why it was nonsense that so many were buying into the last patent being for this ride. In no way did that describe anything they have shown specifically for the Piston Peak off road main attraction.

The We Call it Imagineering segment in Steve’s article again briefly highlighted the bus bar as described in this patent or similar.

I'll certaintly eat crow as I thought it was possible.

 

[Turtlekrawl]

I like the concept here. But on the surface, this feels like a complicated system and set up for lots of “down” time, especially considering weather.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Maybe this car driving ride will put an end to Speedway over in Tomorrowland and that area can be redeveloped. I cannot imagine that area bringing in lots of revenue for the park.

Can you purchase LL for Speedway? If yes, then it makes money.

Plus I think they wouldn't touch this area for many many years as its gong to take years to get Cars land, Villains land, Tropical Americas, Monsters, Muppets RnR, Animation courtyard done and open.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Guests: Autopia is the one Disney attraction we’re eager to see replaced.

Disney: In response to guest demand we’re adding a second Autopia. We’ll also be adding a poorly placed, mediocre coaster that severely limits replacement options for the original Autopia.

 

[BrianLo]

I think Speedway needs to go simply because it takes up too much space for such little payoff. The Magic Kingdom version is so pathetic compared to Disneyland’s.

But of course I’d also support Disneyland’s Autopia being sunsetted one day to use that and the subs for expansion.

I took my neices to Disneyland last year and Autotopia was weirdly the 12 year olds possibly favourite attraction. The things they wanted to redo was that and Space Mountain. I see merit in its ongoing experience, kids really like the novelty of “driving”.

Of course this might put existing Autopia to shame if it is as described.

 

[mattpeto]

Guests: Autopia is the one Disney attraction we’re eager to see replaced.

Disney: In response to guest demand we’re adding a second Autopia. We’ll also be adding a poorly placed, mediocre coaster that severely limits replacement options for the original Autopia.

I think the attractions at Piston Peak could very well make Tomorrowland's Speedway expendable. Plenty of land to do something new in that space.

 

[James Alucobond]

When was the last time Disney World undertook a major construction project with high traffic guest areas on every side? This is an honest question.

Piston Peak? The very subject of this thread.

 

[mattpeto]

Tron has massively limited the options for Autopia.

When was the last time Disney World undertook a major construction project with high traffic guest areas on every side? This is an honest question.

It's a great point, but there certainly a ton of space.

 

[DrStarlander]

It just has to be themed in nearly all directions. That’s not terribly difficult or limiting, just potentially expensive depending on the structure built. There are plenty of options that are innately visually appealing from all angles.

That's why the Cars ride they're building in Frontierland could have been a better fit to replace Tomorrowland Speedway (themed as alien planetary rovers). That kind of fantastical landscape could have looked really cool as the foreground to Tron and Space Mountain. And unlike in Frontierland where they need to hide the vehicles visually (since they will ruin the themes all around the area), in Tomorrowland they could have celebrated them and leveraged the kinetic energy.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Piston Peak? The very subject of this thread.

Piston Peak and New Fantasyland shared large borders with non-guest areas. Communicore is a great example of both a construction project surrounded on all sides by guest areas (I knew I was missing at least one) and of how disruptive such a project can be.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I really just want to circle back to why it was nonsense that so many were buying into the last patent being for this ride. In no way did that describe anything they have shown specifically for the Piston Peak off road main attraction.

I still think it’s possible. These are both patents for technology not a specific ride so you have to use your imagination to see how they could fit an attraction like piston peak.

Time will tell - hopefully we get a good idea at D23.

 

[ChewbaccaYourMum]

I think Speedway needs to go simply because it takes up too much space for such little payoff. The Magic Kingdom version is so pathetic compared to Disneyland’s.

But of course I’d also support Disneyland’s Autopia being sunsetted one day to use that and the subs for expansion.

As long as the expansion there that closes those two great rides isn't just them getting TRON as well. I like the ride, but there's no reason it needs to be in both WDW and Disneyland, imo!

 

[James Alucobond]

Piston Peak and New Fantasyland shared large borders with non-guest areas. Communicore is a great example of both a construction project surrounded on all sides by guest areas (I knew I was missing at least one) and of how disruptive such a project can be.

Oh, I see, you meant construction occurring while all sides are highly trafficked, not just that the final product was viewable from all angles and capable of being circumnavigated.

 

[Movielover]

New Fantasyland shared large borders with non-guest areas

Seven Dwarfs was entirely constructed surrounded by guest areas.

 

[BrianLo]

Piston Peak and New Fantasyland shared large borders with non-guest areas. Communicore is a great example of both a construction project surrounded on all sides by guest areas (I knew I was missing at least one) and of how disruptive such a project can be.

Runaway Railway sort of as well.

I’d presume they’d close the Tron to Barnstormer bypass so there would be an access point.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I saw this posted elsewhere and stole a few photos.

Looks like this came from Theme Park Insider.