DHS Disney Confirms Muppets Take Over Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Hollywood Studios

[Stupido]

Any idea when the setlist might be dropping? And if it will be on streaming as well?

Ideally, the recording would coincide with a full season of the Muppet Show, so they can use some cross-promotion synergy. Songs in the show could be used as the track list, and as more songs get created the attraction can get more and more options for re-rides.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I'm sure everyone is tired of me spouting the same dribble, but this sounds so cheap.

Is that an admission of spamming?

 

[dlfan1313]

Is that an admission of spamming?

Sure. Report me.

 

[JohnD]

I was not referring to the timelines. (Indeed, ToT is set in the present day just like RnRC—the hotel was abandoned in 1939.)

I was talking about the aesthetic and emotional impact of an increased visual intrusion from the new color scheme.

WDI set the archway back and designed it to blend in with Sunset Blvd (including the car not being noticeable until you’re closer to the archway) precisely to avoid negatively impacting the Tower of Terror’s approach experience. It was an example of WDI being deeply thoughtful about the aesthetic integration of new builds, something that differentiated Disney from other operators. I hope that is not lost with these changes.

I'm not aware of any "increased" visual "intrusion" as you call it. The car is in the same spot. Nothing has moved forward. And "emotional impact"? What? I'm at a theme park, wanting to go on rides. I'm not being introspective about my emotions. Besides, you're worried about the color scheme of an upside limousine? What the heck?

 

[DisneyJayBama]

Strange that people who love the Muppets don’t really know much about Dr. Teeth and Electric Mayhem. Sad.

 

[DisneyJayBama]

The other site - I think it’s looking groovy man.

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Y’all really hate that other site that much? Lol

 

[dlfan1313]

I mean, it’s cheap in the way that a re-theme of this attraction was always going to be cheap regardless of who they selected as the new musician/ensemble host. The bulk of the ride is comprised of completely nondescript Hollywood flats, and the narrative was already announced to be exactly the same aside from the audio and pre-show.

They could have done a lot. It didn't have to be flat. That's what they chose. It's a very profitable enterprise, and the coffers can scarcely hide their bilkings. They went cheap because they know they can.

 

[sedati]

I'm sure everyone is tired of me spouting the same dribble, but this sounds so cheap.

I’ve never seen such an open invitation to be placed on ignore but congrats.

 

[dlfan1313]

I’ve never seen such an open invitation to be placed on ignore but congrats.

Oh my yes, please, ignore me. Ignore all that you don't agree with. It makes you and the world better.

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

I'm not aware of any "increased" visual "intrusion" as you call it. The car is in the same spot. Nothing has moved forward. And "emotional impact"? What? I'm at a theme park, wanting to go on rides. I'm not being introspective about my emotions. Besides, you're worried about the color scheme of an upside limousine? What the heck?

As I said, the potential for increased visual intrusion is about the car's new color scheme drawing the attention of guests who are walking towards Tower of Terror, thus damaging Tower of Terror's carefully-crafted approach experience (its "scene 1"). Hopefully this will not be the case, since the car is still set back, the archway is still the same, etc. That’s why I was asking what people who’ve seen it in person think about this aspect.

As for the emotional impact, etc., there is a lot of research and analysis indicating that an important part of Disney’s success has come from the emotional impact of there being fewer visual contradictions than in the outside world. This has been termed “the architecture of reassurance.” One does not have to be consciously aware of / introspective about this—indeed, almost nobody is. There’s a great deal of writing on this topic, from empirical studies on the emotional impacts of cohesive environments, to writing by people within Disney (e.g., Designing Disney by John Hench).

 

[James Alucobond]

They could have done a lot. It didn't have to be flat. That's what they chose. It's a very profitable enterprise, and the coffers can scarcely hide their bilkings. They went cheap because they know they can.

I'm not saying they couldn't do more; I'm saying the format has pretty much always lent itself to simply swapping out the band whenever and with whomever they chose to do so.

 

[Yellow Strap]

Oh my yes, please, ignore me. Ignore all that you don't agree with. It makes you and the world better.

1. "It makes you and the world better" You have an over-inflated ego if you equate your opinion on a roller coaster to the huge events effecting the world.

2. They've already been working on the queue, installing it with animatronics and new scenes for months now.

3. Ignored

 

[Yellow Strap]

As I said, the potential for increased visual intrusion is about the car's new color scheme drawing the attention of guests who are walking towards Tower of Terror, thus damaging Tower of Terror's carefully-crafted approach experience (its "scene 1"). Hopefully this is not the case, since the car still set back, the archway is still the same, etc. That’s why I was asking what people who’ve seen it in person think about this aspect.

As for the emotional impact, etc., there is a lot of research and analysis indicating that an important part of Disney’s success has come from the emotional impact of there being fewer visual contradictions than in the outside world. This has been termed “the architecture of reassurance.” One does not have to be consciously aware of / introspective about this—indeed, almost nobody is. There’s a great deal of writing on this topic, from empirical studies on the emotional impacts of cohesive environments, to writing by people within Disney (e.g., Designing Disney by John Hench).

The color scheme of an already hanging upside-down Cadillac damages the Tower of Terror??? Really???

 

[dlfan1313]

1. "It makes you and the world better" You have an over-inflated ego if you equate your opinion on a roller coaster to the huge events effecting the world.

And you're over-inflating your literacy if that's what you think I've done.

 

[Touchdown]

As I said, the potential for increased visual intrusion is about the car's new color scheme drawing the attention of guests who are walking towards Tower of Terror, thus damaging Tower of Terror's carefully-crafted approach experience (its "scene 1"). Hopefully this is not the case, since the car still set back, the archway is still the same, etc. That’s why I was asking what people who’ve seen it in person think about this aspect.

As for the emotional impact, etc., there is a lot of research and analysis indicating that an important part of Disney’s success has come from the emotional impact of there being fewer visual contradictions than in the outside world. This has been termed “the architecture of reassurance.” One does not have to be consciously aware of / introspective about this—indeed, almost nobody is. There’s a great deal of writing on this topic, from empirical studies on the emotional impacts of cohesive environments, to writing by people within Disney (e.g., Designing Disney by John Hench).

It’s not, the car is set back behind the dining area. That area has always been shielded from sunset

 

[Disney Analyst]

The color scheme of an already hanging upside-down Cadillac damages the Tower of Terror??? Really???

Thanks for making me laugh at the absurdity of it all. We sometimes get ourselves so twisted into knots over these things. Nothing is changing that much, it’s still a place that’s meant to be fun and exciting, which isn’t changing

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

The color scheme of an already hanging upside-down Cadillac damages the Tower of Terror??? Really???

Again, this is the type of careful design thinking that has historically defined Imagineering. So yes, if one area is visible from another, the color scheme is relevant to whether / how much it's a visual intrusion. One of the biggest examples of this is DCA's Tower of Terror becoming Mission: Breakout and then having a negative impact on Grizzly Peak Airfield, Cars Land, parts of Buena Vista Street, etc. Other commonly-discussed examples in the theme park design world include the Swan and Dolphin intruding on parts of World Showcase, etc. I certainly understand if you don't happen to be interested in analyzing/discussing these aspects, though!

It’s not, the car is set back behind the dining area. That area has always been shielded from sunset

Indeed, the design choice to set back the archway/car was precisely to mitigate this problem (which is also an acknowledgment of the issue). However, since they's still visible once you get closer to Tower of Terror, that's where the archway's architectural style and the car's color scheme come into play - and those were also carefully selected with this in mind. One of those deliberate design choices - the color scheme of the car not affecting one's periphery when approaching the Tower of Terror - is now being changed. As I said, I hope the impact will not be significant, and I'm optimistic that it won't - but we'll see.

 

[Marc Davis Fan]

Thanks for making me laugh at the absurdity of it all. We sometimes get ourselves so twisted into knots over these things. Nothing is changing that much, it’s still a place that’s meant to be fun and exciting, which isn’t changing

On the other hand, Six Flags is also meant to be fun and exciting, while Disney's success comes in substantial part from being more aesthetically and emotionally compelling as a result of the care that Imagineering has historically put into all these sorts of considerations. One of the issues, I think, is that it's done so well that we don't even notice all this.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Y’all really hate that other site that much? Lol

The website name and address are blocked here. People still take and repost their content though.

 

[mattpeto]

And you're over-inflating your literacy if that's what you think I've done.

What was your expectations exactly?

The reality is we are losing a pre-screen recording for some actual animatronics.

Besides all you’ve seen so far is a couple of paint jobs.