MK Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[eddie104]

I don’t really understand why people seem to assume there are only two extremes this land could take: mature and frightening or campy and family friendly.

It could be gothic and dark without being "scary" (which Disney was never going to pursue anyway). That’s what I was expecting and hoping for. This report now has me worried that we’re just getting a villian-featured Fantasyland.

Exactly.

Based on the reactions I’ve seen a lot of people were under the assumption that this was Disney’s answer to Dark Universe.

Which I feel didn’t really make sense because their audiences are not the same and we know super scary elements have been avoided by this company for many years now.

At the MK this “new” direction makes more sense for the crowd that frequents that park.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Just started thinking about the “what if they’re adding a spinner here so they can get rid of the flying carpets” and started kicking my feet and giggling

 

[Pizza Moon]

I don’t really understand why people seem to assume there are only two extremes this land could take: mature and frightening or campy and family friendly.

It could be gothic and dark without being "scary" (which Disney was never going to pursue anyway). That’s what I was expecting and hoping for. This report now has me worried that we’re just getting a villian-featured Fantasyland.

Exactly, it’s going to be like Diagon Alley probably mixed with a ride like Monsters Unchained and another like Haunted Mansion.

That would strike the perfect tone and balance.

 

[britain]

100%.

People don’t understand this happens in business and politics all the time.

I don’t think the land needs to be outright scary, but it needs to balance Haunted Mansion with Monsters Unchained.

It cannot simply pull a Tiana’s, Star Wars, Frozen, and Runaway Railway where they keep dumbing down all of these rides for toddlers.

If they did this to see how fandom would react, then they are discovering that NO MATTER WHAT direction they take, fandom is going to split and a lot will hate it, and a lot will love it.

 

[Pizza Moon]

Just started thinking about the “what if they’re adding a spinner here so they can get rid of the flying carpets” and started kicking my feet and giggling

Yeah same. If it means Adventureland can get its place making back AND it potentially opens the door to an Aladdin ride between Jungle Cruise and Pirates, holy.

They have a lot of tropical/adventure setting IPs they could use still: Lilo and Stitch, Moana, Aladdin, Tarzan, The Incredibles, Up, so I mean, I could see them adding one of them to HWS to give it some diversity in offerings.

I guess Incredibles could also be placed here, you could them the other side of hr show building to Galaxy’s Edge facades and have the show building itself start underground and do it.

But man, not having any Aladdin presence at all seems so unlikely, so if it means Morocco or Adventureland would get one, it’d be a massive win.

I just hope it’s true to the original movie if they’d do it and not try to alter it like they did with the live action and the park costumes. I bet Tokyo DisneySea has plans for Mermaid and Aladdin as we speak there.

 

[Pizza Moon]

If they did this to see how fandom would react, then they are discovering that NO MATTER WHAT direction they take, fandom is going to split and a lot will hate it, and a lot will love it.

They could just be using it to gauge ideas.

Not all fan opinions are equal, you don’t think they know that and can see when an actually insightful take comes up?

It’s like having a large soundboard, you still have to filter through the noise.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

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tom bricker has posted his opinion on the matter

I think he’s mostly nailed it here. Does a pretty good job of laying out most of the inconsistencies in the “new” rumors.

 

[Pizza Moon]

That’s because most people don’t really know what’s best. MK needs a weather proof high capacity mega e ticket dark ride more than it does a high intensity roller coaster. If someone wants thrills, let them go to Six Flags.

It’s literally getting that in the form of a boat ride.

And a cars flat ride. And a cars ride that covers the “thrilling dark ride” angle (despite being outside), and the park lacks a premiere thrilling coaster, so yeah, I’ll gladly take it. That’s just what we know.

No one is advocating for bare bones coasters around MK, but you can tell it’s a very American opinion to be like “coasters don’t belong in theme parks.”

Go to Unicersal or better yet, the theme parks in Europe sometime, like Europa Park.

All the Orlando Disney parks need more coasters, and bad. Disneyland Resort needs one at each of their parks too.

It is also true that HWS and MK could use a Shanghai pirates ride, as could AK and HWS use a flume ride.

We just need more rides….

 

[rreading]

The ride itself is super fun; effects, track layout, vehicles, etc....but the Guardians storyline adds nothing to it.

Total aside - but I enjoy the scrapped-together story. My family thinks it’s a total package (but for some first room preshow fatigue)

 

[Nickm2022]

I think he’s mostly nailed it here. Does a pretty good job of laying out most of the inconsistencies in the “new” rumors.

Complteltey agree, I either think everything happened year or two ago ie last d23, or is disney trying to put false info out there to find leakers. Im sure some of this is true, but doubt most of it. TBH I don't care what the rides or food is like, all I care about is the vision is the same, with dark grey rock formations and spikes vines plus blue water and green glowing lights with a evil castle on the horizon, as long as we still get that look im happy

 

[DisneyDean97]

Yes. I think a LOT of people want to see Disney do another Expedition Everest or Big Thunder Mountain scale coaster at WDW, and perhaps push it a bit further.

I’m afraid we’ll never see a coaster as elaborate or as thrilling as Expedition Everest again at WDW

 

[Vinnie Mac]

I think it’s hilarious that people argued tooth and nail that Princess and the Frog shouldn’t be the theme of a thrill ride, but also want a VelociCoaster level coaster themed to a character from Sleeping Beauty.

I dont think anyone was truly expecting that. Just something on the same thrill level as say Expedition Everest or Hagrids

 

[mickEblu]

100%.

People don’t understand this happens in business and politics all the time.

I don’t think the land needs to be outright scary, but it needs to balance Haunted Mansion with Monsters Unchained.

It cannot simply pull a Tiana’s, Star Wars, Frozen, and Runaway Railway where they keep dumbing down all of these rides for toddlers.

I feel like if they were doing this Sort of stuff Avatar at DCA wouldn’t have a shot in hell with all the negative feedback it’s been getting.

 

[HMF]

This is pedantic but:

Slinky isn’t a kiddie coaster. It’s a family coaster. Different ride category.

Meh, I don't see much of a difference. All of Toy Story Land feels like it is not intended to appeal to all ages never mind the fact that it looks and feels cheap.

 

[Nickm2022]

I’m afraid we’ll never see a coaster as elaborate or as thrilling as Expedition Everest again at WDW

yk now that I think about it this is actually no longer true because of that Spiderman coaster they're building over in Shanghai looking absolutely nuts in every way. Same goes for new SM at TDL. Also while not perfect ill defend GOTG and Tron anyday

 

[HMF]

May I ask why it wasted potential? An anchor attraction full of a bunch of different villains that have nothing to do with each other. It sounds like potential for a gigantic mess of an attraction.

I really don't think they care about continuity or that different movies don't all take place in the same universe especially considering the direction they are now taking Galaxies Edge.

 

[HMF]

I think the issue here is this idealized mid 20s family with the stable income for a Disney trip largely does not exist. Birth rates are declining because kids are expensive. Gen Z has issues with the increased inflation and job security, housing has been made unaffordable, many are in debt. Living costs take away from vacation funds and there are many now. I would say now that most Gen Z that can make & would make a Disney trip do not have kids, so the thrill level would not matter. That might change when this is complete, but for now this feels like chasing a dream demographic that exists in so few numbers not it does not move the needle

I wonder why that is. (sarcasm)

 

[Nickm2022]

Meh, I don't see much of a difference. All of Toy Story Land feels like it is not intended to appeal to all ages never mind the fact that it looks and feels cheap.

I agree but don't think it's a bad thing in a park with very little for kids to do. Which I think DHS works better as an adult focused park anyway but ill defend Toy Story land esp compared to the other versions out there in the world

 

[HMF]

I am shocked anyone ever thought Disney would go dark. I never ever believed it would be scary, that’s not Disney.

Mansion Pirates, Alien Encounter and the original Snow White's Adventures would strongly disagree with that. The first Silly Symphony was about dancing skeletons in a graveyard BTW.

 

[HMF]

I don’t really understand why people seem to assume there are only two extremes this land could take: mature and frightening or campy and family friendly.

It could be gothic and dark without being "scary" (which Disney was never going to pursue anyway). That’s what I was expecting and hoping for. This report now has me worried that we’re just getting a villian-featured Fantasyland.

I am not expecting anything along the lines of Halloween Horror Nights (or Alien Encounter for that matter.) but as recently as 2011 they had an attraction that literally had the word "Scary" in its name and that was the toned-down version of the original version which had the implication that the Witch murders you. "Haunted Mansion" doesn't exactly imply not scary does it and that has been toned down as well, in fact recently they toned down the toning down.

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