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MK Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

britain

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A Monsters Unchained style ride with the Disney Villains wouldn’t even be that edgy because the change in characters is already a lowering in tone just by itself. I honestly don’t know what they’re thinking changing the tone of the land to match Berk.
I think it has more to do with changing the tone to a kinetic place where it feels like there's one fun thing to do right next to another fun thing to do. As opposed to Galaxy's Edge which is very immersive, but there are wide stretches between the action (which all happens inside disguised show buildings).
 
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DisneyHead123

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Do you think Kylo Ren is depicted in a way that's ineffective in Rise? Which is wildly popular. That's the level. This doesn't seem too difficult.

I think Haunted Mansion level spooky is what’s needed for this to be effective. Approximately, at least. I’m not sure what’s being referenced with this new supposed leak, but what I’m envisioning is Gaston‘s Tavern level of “scary“ throughout the entire land. If they’re going that route, that’s where I really think they should just bring in a different IP. But who knows if that’s correct or if this story is even true at all.
 

Bleed0range

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All of the great movies/villains Disney has to choose from, they pick to theme a ride off Emperors New Groove (which was labeled a box office bust btw)?

Take a lap, Imagineers.

Every idea lately has been just the armchair imagineering fan service. Retheme rock n roller coaster to dr teeth, do the door coaster, now they’re leaning into the comments about that one scene in Emperors New Groove being a cool coaster.

Where is the imagination in imagineering?

Fans don’t know what they want until they get it anyway generally. Don’t just do these things assuming it’s the best approach.

Creating a new and surprising idea yourselves can win the fans over in its execution rather than in internet points for a low effort post.

Just because there’s a 1 minute gag in the movie featuring them riding a coaster doesn’t mean automatically build a roller coaster about that movie.
 

Tha Realest

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My gut take:

Something in their internal number crunchings induced them to shy away from anything remotely scary or perceived as too scary. Which is fine - completely get it, especially in MK.

It is really, really odd they leapfrogged other well loved and merchandise juggernaut films like Lion King, Aladdin, Nightmare Before Christmas for a 2000 film that made less than Disney’s Dinosaur (#5 that year!) , Chicken Run, and barely edged out Nutty Professor II: The Klumps.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Is anyone really upset about building a mega e ticket boat ride vs a roller coaster? Seriously? Who cares about a roller coaster. Disney is all about the dark rides.
Am I not reading the article right or something?

I was always under the impression we were getting a mega e ticket ride (now it's saying boat) and a mega e ticket roller coaster.... Who was not under that impression?

It was never dark ride vs roller coaster.

Josh even said at D23 2024 "Two Major Attractions" if I recall correctly.
 
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wdwmagic

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I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here... if this stuff is true, does that mean any of the insiders here could speak on what the scrapped plans were? Like the rides or architecture or tone?
@lentesta @marni1971 (any other insiders I am not aware of hah) 👀

Or do we have to wait like 5 years for everything to be open till any info on that could come out?
This outlines what it was and what it seems to now be heading towards
 

wdwmagic

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Is anyone really upset about building a mega e ticket boat ride vs a roller coaster? Seriously? Who cares about a roller coaster. Disney is all about the dark rides.
Yes. I think a LOT of people want to see Disney do another Expedition Everest or Big Thunder Mountain scale coaster at WDW, and perhaps push it a bit further.
 

britain

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My gut take:

Something in their internal number crunchings induced them to shy away from anything remotely scary or perceived as too scary. Which is fine - completely get it, especially in MK.

It is really, really odd they leapfrogged other well loved and merchandise juggernaut films like Lion King, Aladdin, Nightmare Before Christmas for a 2000 film that made less than Disney’s Dinosaur (#5 that year!) , Chicken Run, and barely edged out Nutty Professor II: The Klumps.

It's also possible that this is more about Dark Universe not clicking than it is about Berk being the inspiration. Maybe Josh visited Epic, felt what it was like in both places, and said, "Hmm... large dark ride with a bunch of villains that don't quite go together hidden within a huge ornate building, and an outdoor coaster, and... a specific vibe that some people enjoy in a Halloween way, but not necessarily making hoards of kids happily want to buy stuff... We may need to make a U-turn here, while still leveraging all that villain popularity with the fans."
 

James Alucobond

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Why?

Every park needs one.

Just like every park needs fantasyland style small-scale filler dark rides and headlining people eating boat rides.
What do you mean by "serious" and what do you mean by "needs"? The park obviously genuinely needs no single attraction type; it's the most visited park in the world and has had a variety of attractions sufficient to entertain guests for 50 years. There are also already plenty of coasters that are wonderfully themed in the park, which is what I would consider serious, though I suppose you're actually referring to a certain amount of intensity which, again, the park has been fine without for ages.
 

Pizza Moon

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I don’t like roller coasters because I’m a baby who hates big drops. But that’s just me and im happy we aren’t getting one. I welcome the alternative
That’s great and all but you do realize that Hagrid’s (play devil’s advocate and ignore capacity for a moment) has a longer wait than any ride at Walt Disney World. Rise has half the wait.

Disney absolutely needs to build more coasters like Space Mountain in Paris and Rock n’ Rollercoaster that are actually thrilling.

TRON is cool I’m glad it exists but it just does minor banked turns with no drops. It is fun but it is not a world-class coaster or trying to be. Despite not having inversions, Guardians is more like a serious coaster that goes head to head (in its unique way) with rides like VelociCoaster. MK doesn’t have a ride like that, neither does AK, and since MK is getting so many rides, two in Cars, a family villains boat ride potentially, it’s time that Disney peels off people who crave a big coaster but find themselves having to go to universal anytime they want it.

Every park needs boat rides (flume, typical boat, etc.) multiple coasters family, very thrilling, dark rides at all scales, E down to your Peter Pan, etc.

Every park should have a unique identity but have a large enough ride line-up that any type of guest can have a good experience no matter what they prioritize, at least, that should be the goal long-term.

Why should DCA, Disneyland Paris, Hollywood Studios, Disney Adventure World, and not too long from now Shanghai, potentially Tokyo’s Space Mountain, and all of Universal’s parks now that USF is getting one, but the biggest park in the world doesn’t? I’m not even saying VeliciCoaster/Stardust/Iron Gwazi, I’m simply saying a Hagrid’s/Taron because deep down know this would be cheaper and also tonally cheapen the land too.

Star Wars needed either an outdoor or indoor equivalent when they did Galaxy’s Edge, they didn’t, so if DL needed one MK needs one. Only argument I can see is that TRON takes this place, but it really doesn’t. It goes fast but it’s a family coaster through and through, the gimmick are the super cool lightcycles you mount, it’s its own thing.

Cars is the family-style thrill ride that’s for all ages I assume like an Indiana Jones Adventure. MK could obviously use a Coco boat ride like DCA, but if the Maleficent boat ride doesn’t have a height requirement it would fill this. They need to do the coaster right, Disney people love them, I’m sick of acting like we don’t.

They don’t need another obe to compete with Mine Train, Shanghai Disneyland is literally getting what I’m describing in the form of Spider-Man despite already having TRON and SDMT.

Space is def getting redone after Big Thunder, but that’s another family coaster on the caliber of Izma.

I hope this rumor isn’t true. Literally just listening to the masses of online people that don’t get Disney and think a funny moment is better than making a world-class Taron competitor.

I’d rather them scrap it and make a Nightmare Before Christmas family ride in a miniland like Donkey Kong.

If the 2000s era Emperor’s New Groove gets a major ride and Lilo and Stitch, which is far, far better, and literally it’s garbage remake still make $1,000,000,000, they do not need to give this movie a ride. Emperor is funny, but it is not a great movie on the caliber of Stitch, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin, Beauty, Hunchback, Princess and the Frog, Hercules, or others, so I’d take a Jafar or Hades ride any day.
 
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SirLink

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Considering they have a Bald Mountain ride designed sitting on a shelf in WDI, the easier approach would be take that strip the flume ride elements and attach the Shanghai Pirates tech.

Would of satisfied all elements of the fans, pitched you as a 'hero', Merlin as a role in modern park, multiple villains in one attraction.

The fact they are either floating an idea or are going to use Emperor New Groove, which outside of the opening sequence is the only memorable section for that movie to make a kiddy Goofy flying school type wild mouse coaster and water based attraction to an IP which has no relevance.

The best take was always you as the park guest are there to spy and stop the Villains invading the rest of the park, the designers who are treating Berk Island as their north star for this designing merit for this project have to be removed from the company - Dark Universe should of been their direction.
 

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