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MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

Stripes

Premium Member
Funny,...the Glendale greats of Imaginnering's past were often told: "Woah, slow down! Your dreams and ideas are WAY too large and grand for this project"

Today's remaining "modern" Imagineering staff are being told: "Um,..that's all you got? That's the best you can think of???"

Can we maybe find some way to hire Joe Rhode back? Oh yeah,...Burbank/Glendale doesn't want high profile "superstar" Imaginers any more.

I miss those guys,....
Don’t you think you should allow the work to speak for itself before pre-judging the project based on unsubstantiated rumors that lack any sense of context?
 

Cliff

Well-Known Member
Don’t you think you should allow the work to speak for itself before pre-judging the project based on unsubstantiated rumors that lack any sense of context?
Ahh,...you are right. "Past performance is not indicative of future results".

Just because they have consistantly laid eggs in the past does not mean they will lay more in the future.

At least there are somebody telling them: "This is not enough,...we are scrapping your plans and you must do better".

That's a plus, I guess.
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

Well-Known Member
Maybe we should rename this thread:
Piston Peak and Villains Land CONSTRUCTIVE Thread

Personally, I always saw this thread as the one to discuss construction and have constructive conversations on the future of Piston Peak and Villains and what it all entails. The other thread became a hodge podge of why this is wrong, crying over ROA, making people who were excited about this feel guilty for some reason, and how Disney has no idea what they're doing.
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
I am not sure why it is a stretch to understand how someone would reach that opinion. Seems obvious to me.
I see you've only quoted a small part of my post to read like this

I'm sat here reading this and half laughing at the ability to turn we're getting something 'bigger and better' into a negative

You've then said it's a stretch to understand how someone would reach that opinion as it's obvious. Had you not edited my post it actually says

I'm sat here reading this and half laughing at the ability to turn we're getting something 'bigger and better' into a negative and also a little sad that some folk are so immersed into trying to seemingly bring others down to their level of negativity about it. It's not about whether they should or shouldn't be allowed to have their view (they should) or whether there's any logic to having that opinion (there is some) but I do find the extreme negativity amusing. I'm sure those posting it aren't bothered by me saying that, they've got tough skins I'm sure.

I clearly state that there is some logic to that opinion even though you edited out the part explaining that, why? I get that Disney can be criticised for some recent decisions just like Universal were when they seemed to add quite a lot of screen based attractions that many people were unhappy with. People expect certain standards and have expectations that both Disney and Universal can fail to deliver. It's therefore not a stretch to see the possibility that either can fail on individual lands or attractions but it more amuses me that some want to insist that things can never change or improve and seem to invest so much time telling others that, that's all.

That's their opinion and they certainly have some reasons to think of that as a possibility, it seems a bit overkill to constantly tell everyone that things can't change because it's Disney doing it though? But hey they can and I'm not falling out with them over it, just giving my counter opinion back. It just seems funny the way the thread has gone from positive to negative so quickly, it's like a record for this place which is saying something :D

Anyway, any updates on how the building is proceeding as that's what this thread is actually about?
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I clearly state that there is some logic to that opinion even though you edited out the part explaining that, why?
I was avoiding calling out the fact you contradicted yourself. Because why would you laugh at someone's ability to turn this into a negative when you are also essentially stating there is merit to that stance? If you say there is logic to that opinion, why would that be extreme negativity?
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
I was avoiding calling out the fact you contradicted yourself. Because why would you laugh at someone's ability to turn this into a negative when you are also essentially stating there is merit to that stance? If you say there is logic to that opinion, why would that be extreme negativity?
I said "or whether there's any logic to having that opinion (there is some)". I've stated (there is some) but then again you could say there's 'some blame' on a person getting punched for arguing with somebody else, because if they hadn't argued then they wouldn't have been punched.

It's all relative but I'm laughing more at the fact that some are deliberately choosing to view it only as a negative possibility and seem to invest so much time in trying to say that's the case.

Again you've edited the part of my post where I explain

People expect certain standards and have expectations that both Disney and Universal can fail to deliver. It's therefore not a stretch to see the possibility that either can fail on individual lands or attractions but it more amuses me that some want to insist that things can never change or improve and seem to invest so much time telling others that, that's all

Again I've explained in clear detail what part amuses me but you edited that out again. I'm not contradicting myself but saying that I'm laughing at the lengths they're going to in order to tell others that it can't be good. It's a bit pointless continuing on as I'm having to go into more and more detail about something that amused me and I commented on explaining my view. If it confuses people then I apologise for not explaining it well but I don't want to bore others anymore with it as I clearly can't get my point across.

As you were ladies and gentlemen.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
Doesn't really matter what the first plans are and the new set are. The point is Disney is going "bigger and bolder" with something. We haven't seen thatin a while.

We'll have to agree to disagree. What the first plans and new set are matters a lot to my opinion on all of this.

To put it another way. If we start with:


This

(and I'm not saying we know if that's the case or not) Bigger and bolder could be this:

This

I think it's a mistake to automatically get too excited and assume it means:

This

... until concrete information reveals that it does. That's all I'm saying.

I get that some people think Galaxy's Edge is amazing. While I do like Rise and think SR is passable, I feel as a guest that a large chunk of the 14 acres that went into that is relatively lifeless wasted prime Hollwood Studios space. If we're getting a MK version of that on 14 acres over here so they can call it the biggest expansion in MK history, I'm personally going to be underwhelmed, even if it's better than their original unrevealed plans for those 14 acres.

I'd like to take this as a good sign but talk is cheap and as we've learned over the past several years, so is concept art.

For what it's worth, I look forward to the day I'm comfortable being optimistic about Disney announcements again and I hope it happens with this leadership change but words aren't evidence and all we've got right now are words.
 
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Timothy_Q

Well-Known Member
Is anyone able to make heads and tails about where the water will be going by the cars ride?
These new foundations seem likely to be the new riverbed, based on how close they are to the boardwalk up top

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