News Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge - Historical Construction/Impressions

[Professortango1]

It was not and did immense damage to Star Wars, LFL and Disney as a whole

Far less money has been made than could have been. That’s the goal

if you want to say it catches more strays than maybe it should because all three movies were terr-awful in their own ways? That’s a valid point.

And yes…the prequels suck. But to not get it close to right after? Unconscionable mistake. At least it sent JJ into hiding…positive

Well you’re talking to neither. A dude that went to allied/pride rallies and events in the 90’s. And I’ve had many more close female friends in my adult life than “bros” (bit shocking …but true)

My issue is not the diversification…it’s that Disney - highlighted by LFLs dearly departed unsuccessful leader - have just done terrible character and story work (mostly). To combat culture and gender bias…they’ve done a lot of kindergarten level cultural appropriation. Disney has done it…repeatedly. That’s what’s Been lost in the last 10 years of vitriol…they’ve just done an awful job on an awful approach.

They haven’t figured out how to serve multiple masters with it. George couldn’t and Disney sure as hell have face planted on it.

The failure has made it lame. Considering my stance (frequent) that Star wars is the textbook “nato franchise”…time and place were main ingredients to how it hit and you can’t replicate that in a lab

I still would pay good money for Rian Johnson's trilogy. I can't say that I would for JJ's. Or Feloni's. Johnson's SW felt fresh and new.

Someone has to protect it since Millennials have no culture of their own.

Someone clearly doesn't understand Millennial culture. And why a lot of us don't really care about Star Wars. It's like Rocky Horror. I get why it was important for that generation, but to keep insisting that this old property is relevant and even good is laughable. Star Wars are fun blockbuster flicks. Entertainment aimed at 12-year-old boys. And as a kid who loved some Ninja Turtles, that's fine. But I don't pretend its high art that needs to remain stagnant.

 

[DrStarlander]

Ogas is closing soon for a refurb. Which got me thinking - what can they do to put it on my radar again? I haven’t walked in there since before the pandemic. They need to turn it into a table service restaurant + bar. Get rid of the communal seating. Make it bigger with some backstage space if possible. Of course, if an actual table service restaurant is anywhere in the foreseeable future than than not all of the above is necessary.

I've only been there once. It wasn't comfortable standing, couldn't relax into the theme. And I can't stand DJ Rex. So I haven't been back.

But I have been to restaurants before where the server, surprisingly, comes to take the order but sits down at the table. Either slides into the booth or pulls up a chair. And at first it's like "what the hell is going on?" but it always is a hilarious, memorable, endearing interaction. If I was in Oga's (preferably at a table/booth), if an alien-costumed server came and sat down and interacted with us for a moment, it would be amazing.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I still would pay good money for Rian Johnson's trilogy.

If you can say that, then:

 

[coffeefan]

If you can say that, then:

The trilogy he went on to make was well received.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

The trilogy he went on to make was well received.

Those aren't Star Wars movies. The guy took what made it special and spat on it.

 

[Professortango1]

Those aren't Star Wars movies. The guy took what made it special and spat on it.

Did he? I think he undid a lot of the dogmatic lore that Lucas burdened the Franchise with in the prequels. Luke reconnecting with his faith and learning that the Jedi don't win by using magic as a weapon, but as inspiration and hope. That being a maverick may feel good, but may not in the actual best interests of success. That not every story needs to focus on decades of lore and backstory and instead can be new characters and chapters in a saga. JJ said "let's remake the original trilogy in different clothes." Johnson said "what if we can continue to explore this world for modern audiences?" That's not spiting on it, its loving it and wanting it to grow with the audience rather than presenting something outdated and predictable.

 

[britain]

I actually think Rian steered the franchise back to Lucas' intentions that the Sequel Trilogy has a hermit Luke disillusioned by the hubris of the Jedi Order.

I do think the B & C plots (Rose/Finn and Holdo/Poe) are tedious bores on repeat viewings. But the Luke/Rey/Kylo stuff is excellent.

 

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[mickEblu]

OT retheme incoming. Wow I can’t believe they re really doing it.

 

[Nirya]

Pretty sure this refurb was known well before the OT inclusion in the land, and I can't imagine they want that ride down all that long given the other refurbs they have planned this offseason.

 

[mickEblu]

Pretty sure this refurb was known well before the OT inclusion in the land, and I can't imagine they want that ride down all that long given the other refurbs they have planned this offseason.

Haha I know. I’m kidding but what are they working on? The canons are working! We’re good.

 

[Nirya]

Haha I know. I’m kidding but what are they working on? The canons are working! We’re good.

When I went on in December, the canons were back to inoperable, so I'm betting that's not the most consistent yet. Also I'm sure someone will correct me, but this feels like the first real refurbishment the ride has gotten since it opened (and I guess the time that the park was closed to the public for COVID).

 

[mickEblu]

When I went on in December, the canons were back to inoperable, so I'm betting that's not the most consistent yet. Also I'm sure someone will correct me, but this feels like the first real refurbishment the ride has gotten since it opened (and I guess the time that the park was closed to the public for COVID).

Yeah first I can remember.

They weren’t working for me in late November but were working a couple weeks ago. Probably not consistent.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I do believe this is the first big official refurb it’s had, especially with walls up.

I’m sure it needs it.

 

[SuddenStorm]

It doesn't need a refurb because the dang thing closes early every day. Maintenance has had all the time in the world to work on it. WDI delivered an attraction that can't even operate reliably for Disneyland's operating hours- which should be a minimum requirement when designing an attraction.

 

[Incomudro]

Did he? I think he undid a lot of the dogmatic lore that Lucas burdened the Franchise with in the prequels. Luke reconnecting with his faith and learning that the Jedi don't win by using magic as a weapon, but as inspiration and hope. That being a maverick may feel good, but may not in the actual best interests of success. That not every story needs to focus on decades of lore and backstory and instead can be new characters and chapters in a saga. JJ said "let's remake the original trilogy in different clothes." Johnson said "what if we can continue to explore this world for modern audiences?" That's not spiting on it, its loving it and wanting it to grow with the audience rather than presenting something outdated and predictable.

Yes he did.
You know, there are plenty of young people who are or were fans of Star Wars who feel that way?
It's not just an old guy thing.
My son's (fraternal twins) are soon to be 24 years old and they feel that way.
It's a misnomer that essentially all young people always want out with the old and in with the new.

 

[PiratesMansion]

IIRC, the floors in parts of the queue were not in the best shape. I can understand a refurb from that perspective at the very least.

It doesn't need a refurb because the dang thing closes early every day. Maintenance has had all the time in the world to work on it. WDI delivered an attraction that can't even operate reliably for Disneyland's operating hours- which should be a minimum requirement when designing an attraction.

I think the fact that DL's has yet to run until close has less to do with the unreliability of the ride at this point than cheapness. Perhaps they are concerned that it will take longer to clear the park if they run it until closing given how long the experience it is and how far it is from the main gate, but they were the ones who decided to create an attraction like this, so that's on them. And while it's great that they're doing all of this stuff to make SW:GE more viable and attractive into the evening hours, surely they must know that one easy thing they could do is just run Rise until the park closes, right?

 

[BrianLo]

I love Gringotts for the ride and experience, not because I care about whatever movie it was based on (I couldn't tell you.)…
…

Give me a fun ride with practical sets, some animated figures, a little magical surprise or two, and good narrative structure and I'm interested, regardless of the IP or, as you're saying, the chapter of the IP.

If only the Gringotts ride actually fulfilled any of your criteria.

The queue is great though.

 

[BrianLo]

Someone has to protect it since Millennials have no culture of their own.

The hottest of hot takes.

Harry Potter, the Disney Renaissance, early Pixar, Pokemon, One Piece, the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

 

[Phroobar]

The hottest of hot takes.

Harry Potter, the Disney Renaissance, early Pixar, Pokemon, One Piece, the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Harry Potter should be destroyed soon by Netflix.