Avengers Campus: E-Watch! (Waiting on the new ride)

[MK-fan]

Then it better have a bunch of AA's as Mission BO and WEB-Slingers both make me feel like I'm in a Universal Studios Hollywood Attraction which Disney bought and installed.

Ughhhh, everything about Web Slingers is awful…..the name, the queue, the story, the bareness, the way it closes in on the entrance to Avengers Campus and makes it look like a hallway, the front of the attraction building acting as the exit and those stupids damn cutesy, cartoony robot spiders.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Another angle:

 

[BrianLo]

Really curious to see how they'd integrate any AA and a screen. The Jurassic World ride in Beijing looks great but if you notice the AA's don't coexist in scenes where screens are the primary focus. The dinosaurs chase you around the practical sets. And they can easily do the same thing here with a practical focused set featuring a large King Thanos. Just wondering if they can pull off an Iron man AA in front of a screen/ screen focused scene with action like the concept art may be suggesting. There's a reason Pan in Tokyo has no AA's and I don't imagine its because OLC was being cheap.

I think it’s very convincing with parallex as done on the Ministry of Magic Library scene. Mom does represent that true blending everyone has been after, though I’m sort of starting with an expectation of no AAs with this and moving up from there.

Whoops - I just reiterated @Architectural Guinea Pig - so I guess our point is valid!

 

[BrianLo]

Another angle:

I’m still curious about that random wall that the building mass currently does not reach out to.

I assume that’s almost a third structure that serves as queue space to get around to the attraction hugging the back.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

Mission BO is the most fun I've ever had on a ride

 

[Professortango1]

Mission BO is the most fun I've ever had on a ride

I envy you.

I can't hear the jokes due to the audio mix, the scenes I find visually mid surrounded by a completely bland looking corridor framing the screen, and the ride is all act 3 vs most major Disney attractions featuring at least 2 acts of a 3 act story to allow build and progression as a participant in the story.

The queue itself is so bland and boring on the outside and then cheaply painted over in the boiler room. The boiler is still even there, but covered with chainlink fences and trash to hide it. I've never seen a Disney attraction that cared so little,

Also, why is Rocket escaped at the start of the experience, back in the cage for the first preshow, and then back to escaped in the second preshow? It's almost like the Imagineers didn't take time to clarify with themselves with this rushed retheme of one of Disney's greatest attractions.

 

[PiratesMansion]

the ride is all act 3 vs most major Disney attractions featuring at least 2 acts of a 3 act story to allow build and progression as a participant in the story.

This is actually a really interesting thought I'd never heard put like this.

I do like the ride, but this is a good point.

Also, why is Rocket escaped at the start of the experience, back in the cage for the first preshow, and then back to escaped in the second preshow? It's almost like the Imagineers didn't take time to clarify with themselves with this rushed retheme of one of Disney's greatest attractions.

There's only the one pre-show, and he's already escaped at that point.

He sneaks onto our vehicle when we raise our hands, at which point we ostensibly work together to free the others.

Convoluted, but it is explained on the attraction unless I'm missing something/misunderstanding your point.

 

[Professortango1]

This is actually a really interesting thought I'd never heard put like this.

I do like the ride, but this is a good point.

There's only the one pre-show, and he's already escaped at that point.

He sneaks onto our vehicle when we raise our hands, at which point we ostensibly work together to free the others.

Convoluted, but it is explained on the attraction unless I'm missing something/misunderstanding your point.

When you enter the "fortress" and stand in the first room, which used to be the lobby, you see the preshow where the Collector shows you the Guardians and it's presented as live footage from the monitors. And Rocket is still enclosed and unable to escape. Then we see him and he says "of course I escaped!" Meaning the clues of his escape on outside queue are from in the future? Or he escaped, forgot about it, and then escaped again. Or that the Collector got B roll of the Guardians bickering, recorded it, then is using that as the pre-show into the experience. It is some sloppy storytelling.

 

[mickEblu]

When you enter the "fortress" and stand in the first room, which used to be the lobby, you see the preshow where the Collector shows you the Guardians and it's presented as live footage from the monitors. And Rocket is still enclosed and unable to escape. Then we see him and he says "of course I escaped!" Meaning the clues of his escape on outside queue are from in the future? Or he escaped, forgot about it, and then escaped again. Or that the Collector got B roll of the Guardians bickering, recorded it, then is using that as the pre-show into the experience. It is some sloppy storytelling.

Lol. Ive never given it much thought but it is a little sloppy. They wanted to go for a cute Easter egg on the outside without really thinking through how it impacts the story.

But to play devils advocate - what if he's going back n forth and just pretending he's trapped during the pre show in the lobby?

 

[Professortango1]

Lol. Ive never given it much thought but it is a little sloppy. They wanted to go for a cute Easter egg on the outside without really thinking through how it impacts the story.

Then sometimes you get full-sized Groot outside. Then enter and see Baby Groot. It's almost like this thing was slapped together with minimal effort and skill.

But you get to bounce and listen to dad rock! Yayyyyyyyyy.

They should have just added headphones and trash around Jumping Jellyfish and left TOT alone. Then they can get the "weee bounces!" crowd who don't care about theme and quality as well as the Disney fan who pays Disney prices for their commitment to using E Tickets as a medium for experiencing art and story.

 

[D.Silentu]

When you enter the "fortress" and stand in the first room, which used to be the lobby, you see the preshow where the Collector shows you the Guardians and it's presented as live footage from the monitors. And Rocket is still enclosed and unable to escape. Then we see him and he says "of course I escaped!" Meaning the clues of his escape on outside queue are from in the future? Or he escaped, forgot about it, and then escaped again. Or that the Collector got B roll of the Guardians bickering, recorded it, then is using that as the pre-show into the experience. It is some sloppy storytelling.

I’m with you on the other criticisms, but Rocket’s part is only obscure, not inconsistent. Rocket escaped before we even got in line. On the exterior we see signs of Rocket’s escape. In the first room, on the big screen, we see “live” footage of the Guardians in captivity. However, when we get into the office and Rocket enters from the vent, he mocks the Collector on the video, even quoting his dialogue before he says it. The implication is that all the video you see is presented as live, but actually pre-recorded. Ostensibly another hint that the Collector is shady.

 

[Phroobar]

Going back to the Spider-Man ride, has anyone been in the single rider queue? They lead you in to a side door that goes into a caged area for the preshow. They you go backstage down a hallway to the loading area. I think I passed a CM break room. What a strange single rider queue.

 

[mickEblu]

Going back to the Spider-Man ride, has anyone been in the single rider queue? They lead you in to a side door that goes into a caged area for the preshow. They you go backstage down a hallway to the loading area. I think I passed a CM break room. What a strange single rider queue.

 

[PiratesMansion]

When you enter the "fortress" and stand in the first room, which used to be the lobby, you see the preshow where the Collector shows you the Guardians and it's presented as live footage from the monitors. And Rocket is still enclosed and unable to escape. Then we see him and he says "of course I escaped!" Meaning the clues of his escape on outside queue are from in the future? Or he escaped, forgot about it, and then escaped again. Or that the Collector got B roll of the Guardians bickering, recorded it, then is using that as the pre-show into the experience. It is some sloppy storytelling.

I guess we define preshows differently.

To me, it isn't a preshow unless we go into a specific room for the sole or primary purpose of watching a video/animatronic/scene/get a safety spiel/etc, during which time you cannot actually move or proceed forward in the line until whatever is supposed to happen in the room has concluded and we are allowed to continue through rest of the line normally.

Video footage by itself does not a preshow make (at least, not to me) unless I am physically prevented from proceeding forward in the line until I watch the entire thing.

Then again, the ominous dungeon scene in the queue for Snow White's Scary Adventures was described as a preshow by David Koenig in More Mouse Tales-another thing that I personally would not call a preshow-so maybe preshow is/was used broadly at one point/by some people to mean anything more themed than just basic switchbacks.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

My big take away from visiting last week is that the show building is way, way bigger than I thought it was. The photos didn't give me a good sense of scale. In person, it's massive.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I guess we define preshows differently.

To me, it isn't a preshow unless we go into a specific room for the sole or primary purpose of watching a video/animatronic/scene/get a safety spiel/etc, during which time you cannot actually move or proceed forward in the line until whatever is supposed to happen in the room has concluded and we are allowed to continue through rest of the line normally.

Video footage by itself does not a preshow make (at least, not to me) unless I am physically prevented from proceeding forward in the line until I watch the entire thing.

Then again, the ominous dungeon scene in the queue for Snow White's Scary Adventures was described as a preshow by David Koenig in More Mouse Tales-another thing that I personally would not call a preshow-so maybe preshow is/was used broadly at one point/by some people to mean anything more themed than just basic switchbacks.

I wouldn't call that a pre-show either. That's just a themed queue. If a themed queue is a pre-show then is the Darling's bedroom at PPF in WDW a pre-show? Is the switchbacks between giant walls of toy boxes in Midway Mania a pre-show?

I'm very much with you. Guardians has one pre-show, and it's in the room where Rocket talks to us. Everything outside that room is not pre-show, it's queue.

 

[Professortango1]

I guess it would depend if you find the foyer in the Haunted Mansion a preshow room. I personally do. Same with the original version of the film room in Indy.

If the queue has information that they are directly telling us, as a guest, it's a preshow for me. When it's background noise and ambient, it's queue. For instance, the droids in Star Tours interact with us, but they are not giving us information. They are adding to the ambiance, so I wouldn't call them preshows.

Since that video sets up who these characters are and the ore.ise of the ride by spelling it out to us, it feels like a preshow to me. They introduce each character so we can understand why Jurassic World guy is hanging with Star Wars characters. They tell us that we are here to see an exhibit featuring them and they can't breakout. It sets up the second preshow with Rocket, which wouldn't make sense if you skipped that first room.

 

[Dayoldbread16]

(Sorry for the bad cropping job) I noticed one of the imagineers that was let go because of the botched Florida move, was commenting on a video that was pointing out all the recent mistakes Disney made during bob Igers reign.

I asked him about the original version of the avengers e ticket ride. Of course this info could all be false so take it with a grain of salt, not to mention this person never claimed to have worked on the project; so even if they worked as an imagineer they could just be going off of what they heard.

But anyways like the screenshot shows, apparently it wasn’t going to be a kuka arm ride. So maybe those early “leaks” that it was going to be using a more advanced version of flight of passage; were actually true?. For me I always thought (due to what the concept art shows), is that you’d start off in a motion based. Then your seats get lifted up out of the motion base. Then the flying portion would be using the kuka arm and a domed screen for each person. • one thing to note here is that stark flight lab seems to be using this exact system and even the seats look exactly the same as the ones in the quinjet concept art, so maybe this imagineer was wrong?

But I never considered that if it were using a more advanced version of flight of passage, the seats could drop out a lot easier for the flying portion. The ride showcases individual flight control though, but someone had a good point that the concept art doesn’t always showcase the ride system (for example it won’t show if the seats are hanging from the ceiling or not or if you can see the other people on the ride). But the same issue arises, if you can control your flight but are looking at the same screen as everyone else, how would that work?. Unless they scrapped the flight control part.

Sorry for the rant it’s just I hope one day we will find out what the ride system was actually going to be. Rise of the resistance showed that multiple ride systems could be used to make a more immersive experience. I feel like this ride was going to do the same.

 

[Dayoldbread16]

Ya I've stared at it more. It certainly isn't a coaster and it certainly isn't Simpsons / IoA Spiderman (the sides of the ride vehicle would need to be raised).


I kind of think it's trackless as well and also picture Rise/Ratatouille. They probably can bank roll it on the back of ILL money if it's good. I don't think Radiator Spings Racers is selling consistently. The attraction mix with Spiderman and Guardians Tower would make sense.


I also honestly wonder if the QuinJet Attraction was side-barred in part (which was supposed to take place in Wakanda) because they want to eventually build Wakanda.

I know this is an old comment but since Disney really did show off a wakanda expansion of the campus as part of Disneyland forward, it would be amazing if they brought it back. But knowing modern Disney there’s like a 1 in 100 chance that’ll happen. What’s more likely is they will re theme goofys sky school to “black panthers wakandan training course” and put it in the new land.

 

[CaptinEO]

I know this is an old comment but since Disney really did show off a wakanda expansion of the campus as part of Disneyland forward, it would be amazing if they brought it back. But knowing modern Disney there’s like a 1 in 100 chance that’ll happen. What’s more likely is they will re theme goofys sky school to “black panthers wakandan training course” and put it in the new land.

I don't expect any of the Disneyland Forever "lands" shown for the project's approval to actually be what Disney is building. Even at the time they were shown it was said by Disney they are placeholder ideas of what the lands could be.