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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

donaldtoo

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Which is why I won't cry a river if there's a name change when Piston Peak opens...a 31+ year unravelling of what "Frontierland" was once understood to mean:

1994 Canoes
2001 Keelboats (before 9/11)
2003 Diamond Horseshoe Revue
2024 Spalsh Mountain (intentionally mispelled lol)
2024 Country Bears (to be less "country" and more "IP"....not complaining, it's vastly better than closing outright....I'm looking forward to seeing revamp one day)
2024 Shootin' Arcade
2025 Riverboat
2025 TSI

Depending on how you look at it....6-8 Frontierland attraction closures...

Yep, we can’t have RedneckLand…!!!!! 🤪:hilarious:;)
 

Incomudro

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Having been a boy in the 90s there were no large groups of kids/boys playing cowboys, or looking to be cowboys. You are talking about the Nintendo/online generation of kids. Boys were playing video games, not pretending to ride horses.

You were also starting in 99 into the horrific period of school shootings. You didn’t have any societal appetite for playing traditional cowboys, or any scenarios where kids and guns, even play guns was anywhere near popular/promoted.
Yeah, my fraternal twin sons are now 23, and none of them nor their friends ever pretended to be cowboys, or play cowboys.
Heck, I was born in '63, and we never did it.
A friend of mine had some Johnny West toys, but I didn't want them.
We played "army."
One of my sons watched all of the Clint Eastwood westerns, including Unforgiven.
But that was more because Clint is cool. He watched Dirty Harry and Gran Torino and The Mule as well.
 

Casper Gutman

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Having been a boy in the 90s there were no large groups of kids/boys playing cowboys, or looking to be cowboys. You are talking about the Nintendo/online generation of kids. Boys were playing video games, not pretending to ride horses.

You were also starting in 99 into the horrific period of school shootings. You didn’t have any societal appetite for playing traditional cowboys, or any scenarios where kids and guns, even play guns was anywhere near popular/promoted.
Red Dead Redemption
 

lazyboy97o

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Frontier does not mean “a wooded, mountainous area.” A carefully curated national park, established and maintained by a strong, stable central government that has existed for hundreds of years, and surrounded on all sides by fully built up and modern population centers, is pretty much the opposite of “frontier” - even if the population and its government are talking cars with googly eyes.
Not to mention the infrastructure needed to support tourists joy riding.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I understand your point but seeing as how that is literally takes place on a fictional other planet it doesn't run up against the same problems as earth based westerns.
Also, wouldn’t that mean Galaxy’s Edge is appropriate for Frontierland?

Space: the final frontier
 
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HMF

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Respectfully, I don’t think Woody holds up too well as a cowboy , plus he was created to reflect on nostalgia for the olden days , which are long gone IMO
The whole concept of Woody's Roundup was to imply that Woody was a product of a different time when Westerns were popular. The fact that Buzz is a spaceman toy also literally alludes to this.
 

jah4955

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To be frank the fact that the Toy Story franchise is still going strong three decades later is both a sign of its strength while simultaneously also being an indictment of managements reluctance to let the creative Braintrust at Pixar actually come up with new ideas.
1 was groundbreaking. 2 is my favorite. 3 had a perfect ending. I wish 4 never existed. Nervous about 5.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
I had a dream last night that Tim Allen was visiting the school I teach at, and in the dream I asked him if Toy Story 5 was good. He said yes. So hopefully I'm a prophet.
At least you can dream concretely enough to be actually able to explain them the next day. I sadly don't have that talent.
 

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