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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Disgruntled Walt said:
I didn’t care about the first one. I didn’t dislike it, but it wasn’t that great. Is this worth my time?
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Many reviews have it better than the first one. But overall if you didn't care for the first one you may not like this one as its a continuation.

But overall I would say if you have an itch to go to the movies sometime over the next couple weeks and can't decide on a movie pick this one, it might surprise you.
 
Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Sullivan

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Wicked For Good is turning into an It Chapter Two situation. It's going to fall a pretty good bit short of the first film's total.

I'm not overly shocked. I'm a theatre guy, and anyone in the theatre world knows what the reputation of Wicked's second act is, and now the general public is finding why that is. I will say I think the movie did a good job of improving aspects of it, but it's fundamentally flawed on a conceptual and story level and I don't think there's anything the movie could've really done there beyond changing the plot entirely.
 
Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Sullivan

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Disgruntled Walt said:
I didn’t care about the first one. I didn’t dislike it, but it wasn’t that great. Is this worth my time?
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My movie buddy also didn't love the first, but he had a pretty good time with this one. If you've got the time, I say give it a shot. Most folks seem to be walking away feeling it's better, it seems.
 
Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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Wicked will have legs, IMO. People are invested, and there will be (and has been) repeat viewing. I’m hoping to go at least once more (although I’m at WDW for most of the week) 😀 and will have lots to catch up on when I get home.

I presume Zootopia hurt Wicked’s second week, and will also have legs (a la Stitch.)

I recall last year how Mufasa would take a hit every time a new movie came out, and then rebound to the top or second spot. I think this was just bad timing for Wicked and good timing for Zootopia - but if the release schedule is anything like last year, they can both cruise awhile.
 
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OzAn

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Disney Irish said:
I assume they mean by the weekend of the 13-14th, not this weekend of the 6-7th as that would be huge.
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I think they meant $1B by weekend of 6-7th. The ~$560m opening weekend for Zootopia 2 was over 5 days, whereas they have a full week by Dec 7 to make $440m to reach a billion. Not all markets opened last week, whilst you have major markets like Japan opening this week on Dec 5th.

On the earlier discussion about Hollywood only getting 25% of the gross revenue from China - that is because they need to go through local distributors in China, but the local distributors mainly handle the distribution/marketing costs. So Disney doesn't need to spend much on the marketing/distribution. Whereas in North America, even if Disney receives 50% of the revenue they also need to bear the marketing/distribution costs, which can easily be tens or hundred of millions for a major blockbuster.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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OzAn said:
I think they meant $1B by weekend of 6-7th. The ~$560m opening weekend for Zootopia 2 was over 5 days, whereas they have a full week by Dec 7 to make $440m to reach a billion. Not all markets opened last week, whilst you have major markets like Japan opening this week on Dec 5th.
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The only markets left to open is Japan and Russia neither of which opened very big for the first one, so don't think they'd open very big here like it in China.

So again I find it less likely for it to get to $1B by this weekend, the following weekend of the 14th seems more likely in my opinion. This is not to take anything away from the movie, just that it would need to great hold (less than 22% drop) for it to make it to $1B by the 7th.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Mr. Sullivan said:
Wicked For Good is turning into an It Chapter Two situation. It's going to fall a pretty good bit short of the first film's total.

I'm not overly shocked. I'm a theatre guy, and anyone in the theatre world knows what the reputation of Wicked's second act is, and now the general public is finding why that is. I will say I think the movie did a good job of improving aspects of it, but it's fundamentally flawed on a conceptual and story level and I don't think there's anything the movie could've really done there beyond changing the plot entirely.
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The book was fundamentally flawed too. The stage musical fixed some of those aspects but still had a weak ending. Gregory Maguire isn't one of my favorite authors. I enjoyed the stage musical and both movies regardless of the source material. They were creative and fun. I enjoyed the songs.
 
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Nevermore525

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Zootopia 2 will hit $610M+ today. Through Monday at $589.2M with $10M+ already being estimated for Tuesday in China.

Monday OS estimates were $24.2M, Moana 2 earned $9.5M OS on the first Monday.

Domestically slightly below Moana 2s drop on first Monday. Moana 2 was $5.8M for an 83% drop, Zoo 2 $4.3M for an 82% drop
 
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Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Sullivan

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Phroobar said:
The book was fundamentally flawed too. The stage musical fixed some of those aspects but still had a weak ending. Gregory Maguire isn't one of my favorite authors. I enjoyed the stage musical and both movies regardless of the source material. They were creative and fun. I enjoyed the songs.
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I have always felt with the musical and now feel with the movies that everything is fine until Dorothy shows up because even though they don’t make Dorothy a prominent character in the story, the story of Wicked starts to fall apart once it has to turn into the story of the Wizard of Oz, even with alterations to the narrative. Character motivations have to change, what Elphaba in particular has spent the entire story wanting has to essentially be abandoned, and everybody starts acting very out of character from what we’ve seen of them so far all in service of getting us to what happens broadly in the Wizard of Oz.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Mr. Sullivan said:
I have always felt with the musical and now feel with the movies that everything is fine until Dorothy shows up because even though they don’t make Dorothy a prominent character in the story, the story of Wicked starts to fall apart once it has to turn into the story of the Wizard of Oz, even with alterations to the narrative. Character motivations have to change, what Elphaba in particular has spent the entire story wanting has to essentially be abandoned, and everybody starts acting very out of character from what we’ve seen of them so far all in service of getting us to what happens broadly in the Wizard of Oz.
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It's like this other movie just crashed into it and poor Wicked for Good had to comply and merge with it.
 
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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In other news, Wicked: For Good has broken $400M WW, but has now officially fallen behind the first movie domestically. I have a hard time believing it'll get to $400M domestic at this point, meaning no chance to surpass the WW totals of the first movie. may not even break $550M WW let alone $600M and no shot of the $757M of the first.

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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Casper Gutman said:
Rachel Zegler just praised Defunctland’s recent video and poked fun at the Olaf AA during a red carpet interview at a Vanity Fair event. But posters here are right, she totally hates Disney and everything related to it.
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Yeah I don't think she will ever hate Disney, no matter how she feels about her time as Snow White.
 

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