Avengers Campus: Food, Entertainment, M&G, Environment Updates

[C33Mom]

Update: it wasn’t in the app yesterday because it was rained out yesterday (per cast member standing nearby) it was in the app today, though I didn’t see it early this morning. Unfortunately we didn’t make it over until 12:55 and we had lunch reservations in DL that we couldn’t move at 2pm. Not sure if we’ll be able to make it back across the parks before the final showing at 4:35… especially as cast member wasn’t confident that it wouldn’t get disrupted by rain.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I didn’t have to do all that, all I did was switch to the map view and select entertainment and found the Deadpool area and click on it.

Ok, but it's not unreasonable to expect all of the information to be there no matter how one chooses to look for showtimes.

 

[PiratesMansion]

And you can do that in the app -

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Yeah, that's what I did. See my post on the last page.

As I said, I shouldn't have to sort through a giant list of entertainment-including every single thing that MIGHT EVER play at Festival of Holidays-whether they're playing today or are next playing in two weeks-to see what, TODAY, is playing.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah, that's what I did. See my post on the last page.

As I said, I shouldn't have to sort through a giant list of entertainment-including every single thing that MIGHT EVER play at Festival of Holidays-whether they're playing today or are next playing in two weeks-to see what, TODAY, is playing.

Point is there are ways to get to the information.

Now should it be easier, probably, not saying it shouldn’t. But the original comment was about the information not being there at all, which is incorrect. It just may not be on the first list in the Park Hours, and maybe it should be, but it is there in the app.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Point is there are ways to get to the information.

Now should it be easier, probably, not saying it shouldn’t. But the original comment was about the information not being there at all, which is incorrect. It just may not be on the first list in the Park Hours, and maybe it should be, but it is there in the app.

Surely people have a right to know when the showtimes are for things before it's the literal day of, particularly if they're having to juggle their expensive tickets, restaurant reservations, etc. and would also like to see the shows?

 

[Disney Irish]

Surely people have a right to know when the showtimes are for things before it's the literal day of, particularly if they're having to juggle their expensive tickets, restaurant reservations, etc. and would also like to see the shows?

An outdoor show that can vary depending on the weather?

Under normal circumstances I would say yes they should have it posted. But as reported by @C33Mom it wasn’t on the list yesterday because of the weather, ie it was cancelled. For the next week I’m sure it’ll be day-to-day because of the rain.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

An outdoor show that can vary depending on the weather?

That would include parades, fireworks, Fantasmic and lots of other advertised entertainment.

 

[PiratesMansion]

An outdoor show that can vary depending on the weather?

Under normal circumstances I would say yes they should have it posted. But as reported by @C33Mom it wasn’t on the list yesterday because of the weather, ie it was cancelled. For the next week I’m sure it’ll be day-to-day because of the rain.

They couldn't post showtimes because of rain?

K.

It's not like the people responsible for posting these times are working out in the park with no cover from the weather, you know? It's almost certainly some cubicle drone.

 

[Disney Irish]

They couldn't post showtimes because of rain?

K.

It's not like the people responsible for posting these times are working out in the park with no cover from the weather, you know? It's almost certainly some cubicle drone.

They didn't post the showtimes yesterday because the show was cancelled for the entire day due to the rain. The location of the person posting the showtimes is irrelevant.

They posted them today because they are having the show.

 

[Disney Irish]

That would include parades, fireworks, Fantasmic and lots of other advertised entertainment.

And when those offerings get cancelled due to weather the showtimes are removed from the app.

 

[PiratesMansion]

They didn't post the showtimes yesterday because the show was cancelled for the entire day due to the rain. The location of the person posting the showtimes is irrelevant.

They posted them today because they are having the show.

This is for today on Disneyland's website. Please explain how this is good enough for anyone looking to figure out when the shows are without saying that people should just go to the app instead.

 

[Disney Irish]

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This is for today on Disneyland's website. Please explain how this is good enough for anyone looking to figure out when the shows are without saying that people should just go to the app instead.

There is no excuse, the website should be updated the same as the app. However as we know Disney is pushing everyone to their Park Apps. So as much as some dislike it, the app is the place to look.

 

[PiratesMansion]

There is no excuse, the website should be updated the same as the app. However as we know Disney is pushing everyone to their Park Apps. So as much as some dislike it, the app is the place to look.

Except if I was to try and figure out when the show times were days in advance, the app would be useless because it only shows showtimes from the same day, and so far as I know there's no option to toggle showtimes to a different day.

They need to fix this. Point blank.

 

[Disney Irish]

Except if I was to try and figure out when the show times were days in advance, the app would be useless because it only shows showtimes from the same day, and so far as I know there's no option to toggle showtimes to a different day.

They need to fix this. Point blank.

And you have a point. However unlike dining reservations I don’t know very many guests planning their park visit days in advance based on entertainment. Especially since entertainment is so day of in terms of cancellations. Not saying such a guest doesn’t exist, I’m sure they do, just they are fewer than the rest.

Anyways I agree with you they should fix this, or add the ability in the app to see days in advance.

 

[PiratesMansion]

And you have a point. However unlike dining reservations I don’t know very many guests planning their park visit days in advance based on entertainment. Especially since entertainment is so day of in terms of cancellations. Not saying such a guest doesn’t exist, I’m sure they do, just they are fewer than the rest.

Anyways I agree with you they should fix this, or add the ability in the app to see days in advance.

What's the point of adding additional entertainment for Festival of the Holidays if we're inherently presuming that guests won't care enough to bother to try and see it?

For me it DOES make a difference, because all of this added entertainment actually gives DCA a sense of life it doesn't ordinarily have. Now, perhaps if they had the same acts every day running roughly the same schedule, it would be one thing. However, the FOTH acts are changing daily, and so if I can't plan to see them in advance, I'm at a greater chance of being SOL.

From my end, it doesn't make any sense that Disney demands where I start my day and that I reserve my dining 60 days out, but then shrugs its shoulders when I also try to make sure I get to see these entertainment acts they're trucking in and want to look at times in advance to try and coordinate everything I want to do. It's not like you can just change your dining reservations day of during the busiest two weeks of the year because you want to catch a show, you know?

I can look at the showtimes for ANY day of Merry Farm right now on the Knott's app. I can do the same with the Silver Dollar City app OR website. But we're just supposed to just shrug our shoulders when the self-alleged best theme park company in the world can't figure out how to make it possible to see entertainment schedules on its app OR website, even though it was able to do so until very recently? It beggars belief.

Either we should be able to plan for all of it, or none of it. None of these weird half measures that only exist because the company insists we all do our due diligence but then can't bother to follow through with its own end of the bargain.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

What's the point of adding additional entertainment for Festival of the Holidays if we're inherently presuming that guests won't care enough to bother to try and see it?

That was my thought as well. I’ve planned entire trips based on what fireworks shows were running. The way they advertise the night time spectaculars, it sure seems they expect people to want to see them.

 

[Disney Irish]

What's the point of adding additional entertainment for Festival of the Holidays if we're inherently presuming that guests won't care enough to bother to try and see it?

Where did I say that? All I said is that most DLR guests aren't looking days, weeks, or even months in advance on the showtimes of entertainment. This is a very WDW view of how to experience a Disney Park. Some people forget that DLR is still primarily a locals park, and as such a majority of things are catered toward locals.

For me it DOES make a difference, because all of this added entertainment actually gives DCA a sense of life it doesn't ordinarily have. Now, perhaps if they had the same acts every day running roughly the same schedule, it would be one thing. However, the FOTH acts are changing daily, and so if I can't plan to see them in advance, I'm at a greater chance of being SOL.

From my end, it doesn't make any sense that Disney demands where I start my day and that I reserve my dining 60 days out, but then shrugs its shoulders when I also try to make sure I get to see these entertainment acts they're trucking in and want to look at times in advance to try and coordinate everything I want to do. It's not like you can just change your dining reservations day of during the busiest two weeks of the year because you want to catch a show, you know?

I can look at the showtimes for ANY day of Merry Farm right now on the Knott's app. I can do the same with the Silver Dollar City app OR website. But we're just supposed to just shrug our shoulders when the self-alleged best theme park company in the world can't figure out how to make it possible to see entertainment schedules on its app OR website, even though it was able to do so until very recently? It beggars belief.

Either we should be able to plan for all of it, or none of it. None of these weird half measures that only exist because the company insists we all do our due diligence but then can't bother to follow through with its own end of the bargain.

Disney doesn't demand that you book dining reservations 60 days in advance at DLR. That is the market that dictates it not Disney, ie if you don't book 60 days in advance you risk they will all be taken by other guests. You'll even see people posting here how they get reservations for many DLR dining experiences same day.

Also I've already agreed with you they should fix it for guests such as yourself that find that information important.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

What's the point of adding additional entertainment for Festival of the Holidays if we're inherently presuming that guests won't care enough to bother to try and see it?

For me it DOES make a difference, because all of this added entertainment actually gives DCA a sense of life it doesn't ordinarily have. Now, perhaps if they had the same acts every day running roughly the same schedule, it would be one thing. However, the FOTH acts are changing daily, and so if I can't plan to see them in advance, I'm at a greater chance of being SOL.

From my end, it doesn't make any sense that Disney demands where I start my day and that I reserve my dining 60 days out, but then shrugs its shoulders when I also try to make sure I get to see these entertainment acts they're trucking in and want to look at times in advance to try and coordinate everything I want to do. It's not like you can just change your dining reservations day of during the busiest two weeks of the year because you want to catch a show, you know?

I can look at the showtimes for ANY day of Merry Farm right now on the Knott's app. I can do the same with the Silver Dollar City app OR website. But we're just supposed to just shrug our shoulders when the self-alleged best theme park company in the world can't figure out how to make it possible to see entertainment schedules on its app OR website, even though it was able to do so until very recently? It beggars belief.

Either we should be able to plan for all of it, or none of it. None of these weird half measures that only exist because the company insists we all do our due diligence but then can't bother to follow through with its own end of the bargain.

Amen.

Although I go often enough that when, for example, the GOTG Awesome Dance Off is canceled or has to do a shorter version or Star-Lord only version, it won't make or break the visit, there are bands that may only be playing in DCA or DTD once or twice a season and they're virtually never even listed on the app. The only way i know they're there is if I happen to catch a post on social media or just get lucky and happen to hear them as I approach the stage in Paradise Gardens or DTD. It's insanely annoying that Disney can't be bothered to provide information to guests who may want to see these shows or even come specifically for them.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Where did I say that? All I said is that most DLR guests aren't looking days, weeks, or even months in advance on the showtimes of entertainment. This is a very WDW view of how to experience a Disney Park. Some people forget that DLR is still primarily a locals park, and as such a majority of things are catered toward locals.

And that view is how Disneyland will stay a local's park. The implication being, "Oh, you want to know when things are playing? How uppity and audacious of you! Why can't you just shrug your shoulders for this vacation you're spending a fortune on like locals who can come in whenever they want?"

Perhaps you haven't seen it or simply opt not to think about it, but go to any Disneyland planning board and you'll see PLENTY of people wondering if they're not running Fantasmic/a night parade/Fireworks/etc because Disneyland just can't be bothered to put the showtimes on their calendar in advance even if the hours for that day are already posted. It happens CONSTANTLY.

No one is asking for this stuff six months out, but if the park already has hours posted ~six weeks out, why is it an unreasonable ask that they post their entertainment stuff that far out as well? At the very least, post the big stuff. It's not like those schedules are changing constantly, they basically run the big stuff at the same times every night. So WHY do they wait? There's no guest-friendly reason to do so.

Disney doesn't demand that you book dining reservations 60 days in advance at DLR.

If you want Blue Bayou, you really don't have much choice, do you?

Especially if you're going during Christmas/New Years weeks, as I am, better safe than sorry, would you not agree?

Again, it's not unreasonable to want some degree of certainty for a vacation you're going to drop considerable dollars on. Every other Disney resort in the world seems to understand that; not sure why it's such a foreign concept to Disneyland and some Disneyland locals.

Also I've already agreed with you they should fix it for guests such as yourself that find that information important.

Then would it burden you tremendously to say "Yes, I agree" and stop there rather than proceeding with the "but here's all this other nonsense and excuses for Disney for some reason" bit? I don't understand why you say you agree but then go on to be a contrarian for something that two seconds before you said wasn't good practice. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless someone at Disney's put you on the payroll.

 

[Disney Irish]

Then would it burden you tremendously to say "Yes, I agree" and stop there rather than proceeding with the "but here's all this other nonsense and excuses for Disney for some reason" bit? I don't understand why you say you agree but then go on to be a contrarian for something that two seconds before you said wasn't good practice. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless someone at Disney's put you on the payroll.

Its a discussion forum. If everyone just said "Yes I agree" in every post and left it at that this place would be boring and no one would come here. You yourself literally write many paragraphs worth of posts even when you agree with someone, so yeah, a little pot calling kettle here.

As for the rest. So many here and on other Disney Fan sites I've visited over the years complain about how much spontaneity has been lost at Disneyland. That this idea of planning everything out via the app and other things has taken so much of the magic out of the Parks. Heck I've even heard many WDW visitors say the same thing over on the WDW side of this site. So forgive me if I don't just agree with every one of your points in a single post without further commentary. Yes they should make the entertainment schedules more readily available either on the website or on the app for those that want it, never said they shouldn't. But maybe this idea of needing to plan out every aspect of a trip is what is causing that magic to be lost, maybe something to think about.

Also not on Disney's payroll, they couldn't afford me. lol.