The bigger problem with Imagineering, I believe. Seems they're either unable to speak critically, or constructive criticism is just discouraged. It could also be that they're too "afraid" to say anything.
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DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater
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HMF
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Indeed!
HMF
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In retrospect maybe but under a better management team it could potentially have been a worthy replacement. My philosophy on changes in the parks is basically the same as Tony Baxter's. If you take something away, Make sure what is replacing it is better. I actually have written an article with my thoughts on TBA. I tried to make it as not political as I possibly could while still addressing the underlying issues.
HMF
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That's not just a problem at Disney.
HMF
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Actually , IMHO The reason Stitch failed was because it was trying to find a happy medium between too scary for kids and too juvenile for adults and failed spectacularly.
HMF
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As with SGE, the strange thing about Tiana's is that most people who are in the demographic they seem to be aiming for can't ride it because of height restrictions.
DrStarlander
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Frenetic story-based attractions are the least repeatable, all else being equal, I believe. I personally wish there were more low-key -- literally relaxing -- "mood piece" attractions and shows. Given how overstimulating theme parks can be, a calming break can be so welcome. One of my all-time favorite attractions was the Sparkletts Water Fantasy show at SeaWorld (I saw it on every visit in San Diego, not sure if it was elsewhere). A theater "in the round" (or at least two sides looking to the middle) with a music, fountain, light show. Absolutely fantastic.
An elegant show like this, with gravitas, in the Tree of Life, with maybe some real-life animal footage projections on mist, about the interconnectedness of life on earth (a thesis statement show) could have been really cool and very unexpected.
I believe this is a problem in all of corporate America right now. People are so fearful of being labeled "difficult" or "toxic" or getting called out in "360 degree reviews" they just keep mum about bad work. They keep their heads down, just hoping to evade the next layoff. And the result of that is not surprising. It's critical HR departments train on effectively providing critical feedback.
Yeah I included Universal's Minions Mayhem in that comment. And the list wasn't exhaustive for sure.
HMF
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They always looked temporary and still do almost twenty-five years later.
HMF
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I am legitimately surprised how big a flop this is. I would have hated it anyway being the theming purist I am but I have never seen anything like a consistent consensus on anything here before. The best comparison I can think of is JIYI and that happened when we still had to be off the phone to access the internet.
HMF
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That is a common theme right now.
WorldExplorer
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It's the animation studio instead of Imagineering, but consider: "I let you live here for free and don't even charge you rent."
That line is widely mocked for being objectively stupid. It's not an opinion, it's not just a mangled metaphor, it's wrong English, like saying 2 + 2 = 5. But it worked its entire way through the song writing and animation pipelines, no doubt being seen by dozens of people along the way, probably a hundred, and no one said anything.
Imagine the hypersensitivity that has to exist in a workspace for no one to be able to acknowledge a clear cut, factual screw up. If you can't say "hey, actually 2 + 2 = 4", what chance do you have giving constructive criticism?
Now imagine if that applies to other portions of the company.
Larson must be rolling in his grave at that.
Dreamer19
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I’ve heard the shareholder theory, but as a shareholder I don’t know how any of us should be pleased. The value is stagnant. If anything, I think any shareholder that continues to put up with this low quality product needs their head examined. Disney hasn’t been good for a while and it’s showing no signs of improving anytime soon, nor does the share value….
HMF
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I do hope you are right and that it is as unpopular as possible.
Brer Panther
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Personally, I find "When it comes to the universe, we're all shareholders!" a far more cringeworthy line.
Biff215
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I understand the sentiment but I have to disagree here. Disney is likely investing hundreds of millions into the Cars project and altering Frontierland significantly. While I’ll miss the RoA, I certainly hope this is a homerun and upgrade to the MK.
As the Ghost Host says, “there’s no turning back now”.
Hopefully this one Zootopia miss isn’t an indication of the other bigger projects and their success. If it is, WDW is in bigger trouble than any of us could even realize.
