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DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

JohnD

JohnD

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Biff215 said:
While I agree, I think what matters more is whether it’s a quality attraction or not. If Encanto turns out to be a solid dark ride (Mansion), most will be happy, but if it’s just a lazy retelling (Ariel), then it will be another disappointment.

Zootopia here fails IMO because of what they created, not just because it isn’t a great fit. Sadly that ship has sailed where Disney actually cares about the park’s message.
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Agree. For another comparison, I think all agree that Splash should never have been rethemed. (Let's not go down that rabbit hole. He He). However, Tiana had potential if they stuck with PATF. It had a story and a Villain (Facilier). But they chose to double down on not offending and scaring. And what we got was a boring story with AAs that break down frequently. I had the option of riding last week and chose not to. Splash was always a never-miss for me.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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JohnD said:
Agree. For another comparison, I think all agree that Splash should never have been rethemed. (Let's not go down that rabbit hole. He He). However, Tiana had potential if they stuck with PATF. It had a story and a Villain (Facilier). But they chose to double down on not offending and scaring. And what we got was a boring story with AAs that break down frequently. I had the option of riding last week and chose not to. Splash was always a never-miss for me.
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I was right, we can never stop mentioning Splash every moment of every day. M

Also I disagree that Splash mountain should never have been rethemed. I was very excited by Tiana’s instead of Splash and still prefer a working run on Tiana’s compared to Splash when I was riding it anyday.

Now as for the technical issues, those are bad and embarassing which is hurting a great ride from being amazing imo. Also I would love to see Dr Facilier in the attraction and imo there is easily a way to still do it, atleast for Halloween it would be nice as an overlay
 
wdw71fan

wdw71fan

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Park message is as dead as it is at Epcot. The parks are rapidly become cookie cutter and less of what made Disney ... Well... Disney..

Zootopia rehash in the TOLT is fine.. but I wasn't blown away.. and the obviously budget friendly choices are very disappointing..

For those that have seen the show.. Originally Gazelle was to descend from the ceiling during her performance. Element was converted to part of the screen show to save on costs.

That is disappointing to say the least... All while increasing guest costs.
 
Smoky

Smoky

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With how "uneven" Imagineering has been recently it really makes me wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Was this an old project from before the Bruce days and they were forced to roll it out despite it being objectively terrible? Same with Cars Land, etc. Were these forced upon Bruce? Or is Imagineering/Bruce still laughably incompetent as a whole but with a few people who still know what they're doing? There have been a few recent pretty solid additions (such as Test Track and Astro Fizz), but also a lot of dumb/embarrassing/head scratching additions that make no sense and should have never gotten out of early development. Someone had to have realized how dumb and terrible this show was, right???
 
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DrStarlander

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A theme park attraction that my entire family hated was Universal's Minion Mayhem.

Zootopia Better Zoogether seems painfully familiar: Relentlessly frenetic 3D film based on a modern IP, a completely predictable "crisis," a celebration/party ending, and even drones.

These are the Idiocracy version of theme park attractions. When these are in the works, someone -- I plead, someone -- stand up in the meeting and say "this is dumb."
 
MrPromey

MrPromey

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KDM31091 said:
Exactly. There is zero attempt for this to fit in AK beyond "they're animals". It's just not good enough. It is Disney+ or youtube slop not worthy of being in the icon of the park. Is it cute? Sure but so are shorts on youtube. It's not good enough.

It does make me quite worried for the Encanto attraction which also doesn't fit in this park. Even if we are promised they will make it fit somehow, I have zero confidence. "Antonio talks to animals", again, is just not good enough.

They need to stop watering themes down so much where it becomes "as long as it somehow, some way features an animal it's fine", because that would mean almost any Disney or Pixar IP would work in this park and it is definitely not true.
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But if they jump through hoops to make it fit AK, how do they clone it to a castle park somewhere else in the world down the line?

That would mean all or nearly all of the development costs would be for just AK. Do they do that kind of thing anymore?

Even with Cosmic Rewind, I'm pretty sure they'd just need to bring Terry Crews in for a day to re-do a few of his lines and swap out a satellite view to make that fit into any other park... They may even have have shot those lines to have them on hand for when/if the time comes.
 
monothingie

monothingie

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Raineman

Raineman

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wdwmagic said:

Review: Zootopia Better Zoogether! at Disney's Animal Kingdom​

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Review: Zootopia Better Zoogether! at Disney's Animal Kingdom

Review: Zootopia Better Zoogether! at Disney's Animal Kingdom
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Sounds like ITTBAB got the Alien Encounter retheme treatment-sanitized and cute and cuddly for all of the little pixie dusters! Can't have the scary spiders, wasps, and the big scary grasshopper frightening little Tommy and Jenny, can we? 🙄 I am concerned what effect this mindset is going to have on the Mansion at some point. "Vampirina's Spooky Mansion Adventure!"
 
wdwmagic

wdwmagic

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DrStarlander said:
A theme park attraction that my entire family hated was Universal's Minion Mayhem.

Zootopia Better Zoogether seems painfully familiar: Relentlessly frenetic 3D film based on a modern IP, a completely predictable "crisis," a celebration/party ending, and even drones.

These are the Idiocracy version of theme park attractions. When these are in the works, someone -- I plead, someone -- stand up in the meeting and say "this is dumb."
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Thats actually a pretty good comparison. This does feel very much like a Universal-style attraction.
 
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DrStarlander

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Andrew C said:
"Parents will appreciate that it's no longer frightening" ...No I won't. I enjoyed my kids being scared on its predecessor immensely. :hilarious:
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With a show like ITTBAB, that was frightening for many to the point they felt they needed a new show, I don't understand why they don't just alternate showings of two shows/levels, like "Friendly and Frightful" or "Cuddly and Creepy." Isn't that the benefit of a movie theater, the flexibility? Let guests decide what's right for their family, and they can discuss/aspire to face the more frightening challenge on some future visit.
 
WorldExplorer

WorldExplorer

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DrStarlander said:
With a show like ITTBAB, that was frightening for many to the point they felt they needed a new show, I don't understand why they don't just alternate showings of two shows/levels, like "Friendly and Frightful" or "Cuddly and Creepy." Isn't that the benefit of a movie theater, the flexibility? Let guests decide what's right for their family, and they can discuss/aspire to face the more frightening challenge on some future visit.
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The frightening stuff was baked into the show and Hopper's entire section would be just him screaming "X bug, ATTACK!" with nothing happening if they toned down the scary stuff.

Also, people kept pouring into an attraction with TERROR literally in the title and then pretending it was someone else's fault when they were scared. They're not going to read a show schedule and come back later.
 
CJR

CJR

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wdwmagic said:

Review: Zootopia Better Zoogether! at Disney's Animal Kingdom​

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Review: Zootopia Better Zoogether! at Disney's Animal Kingdom

Review: Zootopia Better Zoogether! at Disney's Animal Kingdom
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Excellent review. "One and done" has been something I've said about a lot of new attractions lately (not just at Disney Parks). Most aren't bad at all, just not great enough to rush back to, especially if they produce lengthy waits for a bit.
 
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DrStarlander

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WorldExplorer said:
The frightening stuff was baked into the show and Hopper's entire section would be just him screaming "X bug, ATTACK!" with nothing happening if they toned down the scary stuff.

Also, people kept pouring into an attraction with TERROR literally in the title and then pretending it was someone else's fault when they were scared. They're not going to read a show schedule and come back later.
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What do you mean "baked into the show," that's like saying a movie is "baked into" your local AMC theater screen. I'm saying make a different film/story/show featuring the same world/characters.

I understand the skepticism about audiences. But there would have been benefits to trying and I think on one hand if they expect park goers to deal with all the complexity of reservation systems and modern theme park ticketing, it's hard to also say "but they are so dumb they can't understand alternating shows in a theater" (such as coming with Lincoln/Walt at Disneyland). Many families have experienced the alternating choices/showtimes of IMAX movies at a science center, for example.
 

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