Animaniac93-98
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Agreed. I know they sell dolls, Lego and other toys, and some kids have had Wicked birthday parties, but I still think Wicked skews older than the typical Disney animated fare.
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Agreed. I know they sell dolls, Lego and other toys, and some kids have had Wicked birthday parties, but I still think Wicked skews older than the typical Disney animated fare.
TP2000
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At exactly 9:30pm the porch lights went off and I closed for business. Nothing good ever happens after 9:30pm on Halloween. I'm now enjoying an hours-late dry martini, and checking my sporadic notes from this evening.
Here's the TP2000 Halloween Costume Pop Culture Barometer for 2025.
I got about 65 kids tonight, give or take. Not quite the 150+ I'd usually get in my old SoCal neighborhood, but for a small gated community in a small city, it's not bad. I'm pretty sure some of the local kids invited their friends.
I can not thank @BrianLo enough for tipping me off on this phenom of the girl group from Korea who hunts demons! I got at least two dozen of them tonight! Most of those girls were in the 5 to 9 year old range, and were adorable, yet you could tell they thought they were being edgy. Also quite a few Princesses and pink royalty of various sorts for the girls. And a gaggle of Tween girls wearing full-face pink ski masks and stretch pants and toting their Dad's rifles; I have absolutely no idea what that was, but at least they were very polite.
On the boys side, Spiderman reigned supreme in the 5 to 9 year old age group. A close second was dinosaurs. Older boys went for sports stars, or a few soldiers, or general ghouls. The boys over age 10 kind of phoned it in this year, to be honest.
Best Boy Costume See's candy basket went to a Son/Dad combo. The son was a great looking TRex dinosaur, with an embedded roaring sound effect speaker in his costume. Dad was... Chris Pratt in khaki's and dino battle gear. Unfortunately, Dad looked nothing like Chris Pratt and probably never did even in college.
But their combo together was hilarious!
Best Girl Costume candy basket went to a generic princess, but she had about 100 LED lights in her flouncy, white ball gown. She was like a one woman Electrical Parade. I could tell she had a vision for this Halloween, and darnit she brought it to life!
Best Family Costume candy basket went to a family of 5 I know just down the street. They were all Lego people, and Dad had clearly worked hard to create these sort of plasticky costumes that looked like Lego bricks, but you could still see their faces thru cutouts. Dad in Lego Suit N' Tie, Mom in Lego dress and bow, daughter in Lego dress and bow, boys in Lego baseball uniforms. Hysterical! I chatted with them for a bit as I know them, and the kids said they wanted to get the dog in on the fun but he ABSOLUTELY REFUSED to take part as a Lego Dog.
In short, here's my take on Pop Culture for 2025 from this evening....
Not a single Star Wars or Marvel thing at all. Korean Girl Group Demon Hunters, or what have you, ruled the night. Spiderman and dinosaurs were a very close second and third for younger boys. And for the 15th Halloween since the first Avatar movie came out and I started keeping track of all this, I had not a single blue alien anywhere in sight.
And now, to find my own tricks and treats in my well-deserved martini...
Here's the TP2000 Halloween Costume Pop Culture Barometer for 2025.
I got about 65 kids tonight, give or take. Not quite the 150+ I'd usually get in my old SoCal neighborhood, but for a small gated community in a small city, it's not bad. I'm pretty sure some of the local kids invited their friends.
I can not thank @BrianLo enough for tipping me off on this phenom of the girl group from Korea who hunts demons! I got at least two dozen of them tonight! Most of those girls were in the 5 to 9 year old range, and were adorable, yet you could tell they thought they were being edgy. Also quite a few Princesses and pink royalty of various sorts for the girls. And a gaggle of Tween girls wearing full-face pink ski masks and stretch pants and toting their Dad's rifles; I have absolutely no idea what that was, but at least they were very polite.
On the boys side, Spiderman reigned supreme in the 5 to 9 year old age group. A close second was dinosaurs. Older boys went for sports stars, or a few soldiers, or general ghouls. The boys over age 10 kind of phoned it in this year, to be honest.
Best Boy Costume See's candy basket went to a Son/Dad combo. The son was a great looking TRex dinosaur, with an embedded roaring sound effect speaker in his costume. Dad was... Chris Pratt in khaki's and dino battle gear. Unfortunately, Dad looked nothing like Chris Pratt and probably never did even in college.
But their combo together was hilarious!Best Girl Costume candy basket went to a generic princess, but she had about 100 LED lights in her flouncy, white ball gown. She was like a one woman Electrical Parade. I could tell she had a vision for this Halloween, and darnit she brought it to life!
Best Family Costume candy basket went to a family of 5 I know just down the street. They were all Lego people, and Dad had clearly worked hard to create these sort of plasticky costumes that looked like Lego bricks, but you could still see their faces thru cutouts. Dad in Lego Suit N' Tie, Mom in Lego dress and bow, daughter in Lego dress and bow, boys in Lego baseball uniforms. Hysterical! I chatted with them for a bit as I know them, and the kids said they wanted to get the dog in on the fun but he ABSOLUTELY REFUSED to take part as a Lego Dog.
In short, here's my take on Pop Culture for 2025 from this evening....
Not a single Star Wars or Marvel thing at all. Korean Girl Group Demon Hunters, or what have you, ruled the night. Spiderman and dinosaurs were a very close second and third for younger boys. And for the 15th Halloween since the first Avatar movie came out and I started keeping track of all this, I had not a single blue alien anywhere in sight.
And now, to find my own tricks and treats in my well-deserved martini...
CoastalElite64
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This will be fun to see during the holidays!
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Tony the Tigger
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Springsteen was interesting, but kind of a bummer. I was expecting a Bohemian Rhapsody/Elton John type film – uplifting, celebrating the music. This was not that.
It got kind of slow for a while, and the subject matter was a bit depressing.
It got kind of slow for a while, and the subject matter was a bit depressing.
Ghost93
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I felt that to a much more extreme degree when I saw "The Iron Claw" with Zac Efron. I knew nothing about the true story, so I thought it would be an uplifting and inspiring sports film. While the movie was great, it was EXTREMELY depressing.
Initially I had planned to see it with my family over Christmas. I'm glad I ended up seeing it a few days before, and could warn the family that it was not an ideal movie for the holidays. It would have ruined Christmas.
Disney Irish
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As much as I love Back to the Future, and I do, that theater you were at must have been the only one full across the nation, because at a per theater average of $681 across 2290 theaters that is only about 3 people per theater buying tickets last night.
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The Numbers - Daily Box Office Chart for Friday October 31, 2025
Daily Domestic Box Office Chart for Friday October 31, 2025
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TP2000
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Target run!
November 1st and the Halloween aisles at my local Target were already completely decimated by mid afternoon. Except for this one end display facing the main aisle; for Wicked costumes that still weren't selling at half off. Was this supposed to be a fad this year? I didn't see a single Wicked witch, good or bad, last night.
It's not a Disney property, but still, seems obvious someone tried to make it a thing and it didn't go anywhere. At least not among young girls of trick-or-treat ages. Disney anyone get a Wicked character at their doorstep last night?
November 1st and the Halloween aisles at my local Target were already completely decimated by mid afternoon. Except for this one end display facing the main aisle; for Wicked costumes that still weren't selling at half off. Was this supposed to be a fad this year? I didn't see a single Wicked witch, good or bad, last night.
It's not a Disney property, but still, seems obvious someone tried to make it a thing and it didn't go anywhere. At least not among young girls of trick-or-treat ages. Disney anyone get a Wicked character at their doorstep last night?
Buy tons of candy now on discount for next year!!
Yeah, Target definitely went in hard on the Wicked outfits this year, wouldn't be surprised if they overstocked - though there was a goodly dent made in the stock of those in my region in the runup to the holiday. I wasn't handling the trick-or-treaters this year, but last year there were several girls in Glinda and Elphaba outfits at the door, so! Wicked also has been represented well among cosplayers at the last few conventions I've been to; it's out there, it just skews older than trick-or-treat age.
I think K-Pop Demon Hunters just steamrolled every other license this year for girls, without having any official merch of its own! It probably also helped its case that Disney hasn't had much new to offer since Encanto and the last Descendants movie as far as characters girls want to dress up as.
Spider-Man is Marvel, so it's not like there isn't any of that represented right now!
But I'm not surprised there isn't much of a market for other Marvel characters or Star Wars; the franchises are skewing too old at this point. Same with Avatar really - that's just not a "kiddie" franchise.
I think K-Pop Demon Hunters just steamrolled every other license this year for girls, without having any official merch of its own! It probably also helped its case that Disney hasn't had much new to offer since Encanto and the last Descendants movie as far as characters girls want to dress up as.
Spider-Man is Marvel, so it's not like there isn't any of that represented right now!
But I'm not surprised there isn't much of a market for other Marvel characters or Star Wars; the franchises are skewing too old at this point. Same with Avatar really - that's just not a "kiddie" franchise.
BrianLo
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I think further emphasis that they are / were a bit out of touch with what group of musical girls the elementary school population was into this year. Wicked is a millenial/gen z property.
I did actually encounter a third star wars character on the other hand, so you know my population sample was large. An adult man dressed as the Stranger from the Acolyte - of all things.
Yes, and that's good for everyone really. Wicked: For Good has the teen and adult women markets almost to itself in what has been a very thin year for movies appealing to those demographics in particular, and Zootopia 2 gets the general toddlers-to-grandparents crowd through the door. If the previous Wicked could hold its own against Moana 2 last year, there's no reason both these movies can't be hits now.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Cause that is what every kid wants…. Stale candy.
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Agent H
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Now how we can make a similar Christmas themed experiment?At exactly 9:30pm the porch lights went off and I closed for business. Nothing good ever happens after 9:30pm on Halloween. I'm now enjoying an hours-late dry martini, and checking my sporadic notes from this evening.
Here's the TP2000 Halloween Costume Pop Culture Barometer for 2025.
I got about 65 kids tonight, give or take. Not quite the 150+ I'd usually get in my old SoCal neighborhood, but for a small gated community in a small city, it's not bad. I'm pretty sure some of the local kids invited their friends.
I can not thank @BrianLo enough for tipping me off on this phenom of the girl group from Korea who hunts demons! I got at least two dozen of them tonight! Most of those girls were in the 5 to 9 year old range, and were adorable, yet you could tell they thought they were being edgy. Also quite a few Princesses and pink royalty of various sorts for the girls. And a gaggle of Tween girls wearing full-face pink ski masks and stretch pants and toting their Dad's rifles; I have absolutely no idea what that was, but at least they were very polite.
On the boys side, Spiderman reigned supreme in the 5 to 9 year old age group. A close second was dinosaurs. Older boys went for sports stars, or a few soldiers, or general ghouls. The boys over age 10 kind of phoned it in this year, to be honest.
Best Boy Costume See's candy basket went to a Son/Dad combo. The son was a great looking TRex dinosaur, with an embedded roaring sound effect speaker in his costume. Dad was... Chris Pratt in khaki's and dino battle gear. Unfortunately, Dad looked nothing like Chris Pratt and probably never did even in college.
Best Girl Costume candy basket went to a generic princess, but she had about 100 LED lights in her flouncy, white ball gown. She was like a one woman Electrical Parade. I could tell she had a vision for this Halloween, and darnit she brought it to life!
Best Family Costume candy basket went to a family of 5 I know just down the street. They were all Lego people, and Dad had clearly worked hard to create these sort of plasticky costumes that looked like Lego bricks, but you could still see their faces thru cutouts. Dad in Lego Suit N' Tie, Mom in Lego dress and bow, daughter in Lego dress and bow, boys in Lego baseball uniforms. Hysterical! I chatted with them for a bit as I know them, and the kids said they wanted to get the dog in on the fun but he ABSOLUTELY REFUSED to take part as a Lego Dog.
In short, here's my take on Pop Culture for 2025 from this evening....
Not a single Star Wars or Marvel thing at all. Korean Girl Group Demon Hunters, or what have you, ruled the night. Spiderman and dinosaurs were a very close second and third for younger boys. And for the 15th Halloween since the first Avatar movie came out and I started keeping track of all this, I had not a single blue alien anywhere in sight.
And now, to find my own tricks and treats in my well-deserved martini...
LittleBuford
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Spider-Man is Marvel.
erasure fan1
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We did have some star wars and marvel. But it was a few OG characters and Mando, no sequels. For marvel there was the usual Spider-Man but that was it. K-pop was a big and there were TONS of inflatable dinosaurs. Lol Like you I'm still waiting for an avatar anything.
Interestingly I saw a big increase in power rangers. Also Batman, sonic the hedgehog and Mario were well represented. Really the only Disney that had a bit of representation was stitch.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I still find it funny that you all are looking for Avatar character consumes, ie half naked blue aliens, during Halloween where average temperatures across the US is in the 40s or 50s (lower in some places) at night. Sorry but its not a costume that lends itself well to being worn during a cold Halloween night.We did have some star wars and marvel. But it was a few OG characters and Mando, no sequels. For marvel there was the usual Spider-Man but that was it. K-pop was a big and there were TONS of inflatable dinosaurs. Lol Like you I'm still waiting for an avatar anything.
Interestingly I saw a big increase in power rangers. Also Batman, sonic the hedgehog and Mario were well represented. Really the only Disney that had a bit of representation was stitch.
BrianLo
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Avatar is a baby boomer and international phenomenon. The original joke (theory/criticsm) was that the franchise lacked costume representation and therefore why were they building it.
Now unarguably Pandora had the strongest metrics of WDW’s last major project cycle and Way of Water is the third biggest movie globally. It makes the costume argument theory moot. Likewise with Wicked - I’m sure the sequel and the probable land will both be highly successful. However, the absence of costume interest doesn’t predict that, it just indicates that it isn’t a little kid franchise or the biggest musical film on everyone’s mind; which we already know.
On the other hand K-pop isn’t a flash in the pan. I’m sure there are a few perked ears in the theme park sphere.
Now unarguably Pandora had the strongest metrics of WDW’s last major project cycle and Way of Water is the third biggest movie globally. It makes the costume argument theory moot. Likewise with Wicked - I’m sure the sequel and the probable land will both be highly successful. However, the absence of costume interest doesn’t predict that, it just indicates that it isn’t a little kid franchise or the biggest musical film on everyone’s mind; which we already know.
On the other hand K-pop isn’t a flash in the pan. I’m sure there are a few perked ears in the theme park sphere.