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DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

HMF

Well-Known Member
Yes, exactly. And to be clear, I'm by no means downplaying actual trauma. It's a terrible cross to bear. But as you said, being momentarily frightened by a theme park experience is not traumatic, and acting as though it is seems pathological and lessens how unendingly difficult simply existing in our world can be for people who have truly suffered in life. I'm terrified of heights and recently went paragliding in the Swiss Alps. I was so scared at first, I am honestly surprised I didn't wet myself. I loved it. By the end, I was grinning ear to ear. Theme parks, even Disney parks, are often about experiencing things that might otherwise be terrifying in an incredibly safe way. That's sort of a big part of the whole thing.
As someone who has had a traumatic life experience, I can confidently say ITTBAB played no role in it whatsoever. Same with how the Ghost Host in Haunted Mansion never gave me suicidal ideation. Hell Alien Encounter didn't phase me.
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
Premium Member
Quoting these posts from Steve after TTBAB closed:
Tough To Be A Bug isn't coming back. Very much like the situation with Alien/Stitch Encounter, Disney has been looking to exit Tough To Be A Bug for some time. It received a high number of guest complaints, and due to the nature of the show, was a poor utilization of the space. The new show will be far more child friendly.
It isn't very few. It had a comparatively high rate of guest complaints. There were kids crying at almost every single showing. And some of those parents left complaints. Pretty much exactly the same as the Alien Encounter situation.
 

ProjectXBlog

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I wanted to like this, but it is truly awful. As others have already said, It’s Tough had a solid message about how we should be more appreciative of bugs, which gelled well with Animal Kingdom’s theme and was done in a fun variety-show style. This new show has absolutely no sense of cohesion in terms of presentation, message, or theme.

The overall theme and message here is “unity” but that’s the message of almost every Disney show these days. It means absolutely nothing anymore. And instead of educating the audience about any of the biomes or species that are shown, they made an awful little short film that’s just visual noise.

Why have the framing device be a stage show filmed by drones if none of that has any effect of the actual show itself? I was digging the look of the “stage” at first but as soon as the screen element was introduced I checked out. The film is so far removed from the stage show framing device that the drones aren’t even filming what you see — we’re cutting all over the place, things are slowing down, it’s all just a mess.

I don’t mind that they made a show that toned down on the scare factor — I don’t love it, but it’s not a hill worth dying on compared to the total lack of imagination or edification in this project. WDI was totally capable of making a cute movie that actually tied into the mission statement and left an impression here, but this is the opposite of whatever that could have been. What a bummer.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
I find it funny that the Dung Brothers Dung ball was rename as the paw pact that were soils that were collected from the different biomes of Zootopia..But, we all know what it really is...
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HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
This is being rather soundly panned online thus far. And some are saying it gets "preachy" from the start (I haven't and won't watch it online, mostly because I think the movie and everything around it is pure crap), which is not a discussion that is going to end well. Can't wait for what is said once it's open to the general public.
 

WorldExplorer

Well-Known Member
Quoting these posts from Steve after TTBAB closed:

I don't doubt people complained.

But I blame them for not knowing what they're going to and then making a big deal out of it when the show that was clearly trying to be scary ended up being scary. The signs were there. READ.

There's this weird thing that happens where any time Disney makes something that prompts a negative emotion people pretend it's a mistake instead of what they were trying to do. It's in all things they do (e.g. people whining that Bambi is sad), but especially the theme parks.

"Extra-TERROR-Estrial was scary!" Oh, ya don't say?

"Dinosaur scares kids!" Yeah, it scares adults, too, that's the point.

"It's Tough to Be A Bug was scary!" What, you mean the hornets weren't cuddly?

Like, they clearly made this things this way on purpose. No one thought having black widow spiders drop down from the ceiling was going to be funny. Being scared was the point. But that's just an unfathomable thing to some people, so we don't ever get to have anything but happy happy fun times now.

Imagine if they just never made rollercoasters because people constantly complained that they gave them a tickle feeling in their stomach and they didn't like that. That would be stupid; obviously don't go on the rollercoaster.


I've said it before in this thread, It's Tough to Be a Bug was not a personal favorite, I don't feel super sad knowing it's gone; it was good, but not irreplaceable. I can accept that's it's gone (though not a sucky replacement). But Disney's constant filing away of anything remotely scary? I can't get behind that and ITtBaB is a prime example.
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
Premium Member
I've said it before in this thread, It's Tough to Be a Bug was not a personal favorite, I don't feel super sad knowing it's gone; it was good, but not irreplaceable. I can accept that's it's gone (though not a sucky replacement). But Disney's constant filing away of anything remotely scary? I can't get behind that and ITtBaB is a prime example.
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I repeat - It got Bayou'd hard.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Pretty sure this is what you get when someone greenlights an attraction w/o actually having the story or script.

This is awful.

Looks like we got the Tiana crew to do the queue/preshow area.. same setup and environment ideas.

The film's story just is.. pointless? I was bored out of my mind with the story. I never connected with how Judy is supposed to be seeing the AA character? The 4D gags looked like the same contrived stuff from the first 4D film efforts 30yrs ago.

The screen itself looks very sharp.. the AA figure seems nice... the animation itself wasn't distracting.. but I never laughed, I never felt attached, I was never engaged at all... I was bored with what i was watching. The song felt like watching really bad karoke or something.. like 'please make it stop' reaction.

Wow... talk about 'zero need to visit this'. Not good Bob.. not good.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
If you want to scar your kids, you now need to go to Universal. The two dark universe rides can fulfill that niche! My one ride on Curse of the Werewolf a 7ish year old girl was sobbing a row behind me as we had the midride launch’s accompanied by werewolf snarls. Then on Monsters Unchained, we didn’t even need to get on the ride, the found footage room had tikes scared out of their mind everytime I was in there. Mind you I’m not sure you’ll win parent of the year for willingly taking your young child into Castle Freaking Frankenstein but the IQ of the average tourist never disappoints.

Back to Bug, my brother was traumatized as a young child when we first went, it’s extremely real and was freaking hilarious.
 

mattpeto

Well-Known Member
Wasn't impressed with the 1 minute teaser I watched, but I'll approach it with an open mind. My gut feeling is I will like this less than It's Tough to be a Bug, but that doesn't make it a bad show either. It also didn't mean it should live forever as a 3D show.

As @Goofyernmost alluded to, I do think people are quite dismissive over offerings and attractions that cater to children around here. Many here will poke fun at any children offerings, like Cool Kids Summers and I honestly question if they are parents or have young children at all. It doesn't mean your opinion doesn't matter, but you just might not understand bringing young kids to the parks.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Many here will poke fun at any children offerings, like Cool Kids Summers and I honestly question if they are parents or have young children at all
I'd be more than happy if you could eliminate my decades of child related expenses. I've raised three of my own.

The part missing in your concern is glossing over how Disney was renowned for it's ability to create broad appeal and keep families together.. instead of just saying "well it's only for kids..."
 

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