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General Star Wars Discussion

Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Vicarious Fan said:
The Phantom Meance is the best of the PT movies because it's a simple fun adventure film full of that George Lucas Magic
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It's interesting that years ago people would have said the opposite.

Personally, I rank Revenge of the Sith as one of the top 3 SW movies of all time. It delivered on what everyone had wanted to see for 20 years. It had the jedi purge, the epic ObiWan/Anakin duel, the rise of the Empire and Palpatine, the birth of the twins and how they got to where they are in ANH, the beginning of the Death Star, and of course the rise of Vader. It had everything and was even a bit emotional. I rank it right under ANH and TESB.

The thing about the PT that may stand the test of time is that, while the dialogue was clunky and awkward at best, the story and narratives were actually very very good. The content and visuals were right on if the dialogue and direction were not. Same movie, different directors and more dialogue working and they would have been phenomenal. For now, they actually have aged pretty well.

As for the ST, I "make" them work for me. I wrote a story outline that fits in between TLJ and TROS that actually makes it work better. I my own head canon, I have an episode 8.5 that transitions the two movies nicely (at least in my mind). Oh, and I keep the fan-made scene where the ghosts of Jedi past help Rey at the end of TROS.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Dan Gilroy bagged an Emmy for writing on Andor…

Shout out to Genevieve OReilly in his acceptance…

Might be the first non technical/music award for anything Star Wars ever?

Maybe editing?
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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  • Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope won six competitive Oscars, including:
    • Best Original Score (John Williams)
    • Best Sound
    • Best Art Direction
    • Best Costume Design
    • Best Film Editing
    • Best Visual Effects
  • It also received a Special Achievement Award for sound effects.
  • Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back won Best Sound and received a Special Achievement Award for visual effects.

Star Wars Episode IV was up for best picture but was robbed by Woody Allen's Annie Hall.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Phroobar said:
  • Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope won six competitive Oscars, including:
    • Best Original Score (John Williams)
    • Best Sound
    • Best Art Direction
    • Best Costume Design
    • Best Film Editing
    • Best Visual Effects
  • It also received a Special Achievement Award for sound effects.
  • Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back won Best Sound and received a Special Achievement Award for visual effects.

Star Wars Episode IV was up for best picture but was robbed by Woody Allen's Annie Hall.
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Right…mostly technical. I realized that after posting that they won editing…which gave marsha Lucas exactly one more Oscar than George.

Point being is story/directing/acting/etc was not there. I think Guinness had a best supporting nod?
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Right…mostly technical. I realized that after posting that they won editing…which gave marsha Lucas exactly one more Oscar than George.

Point being is story/directing/acting/etc was not there. I think Guinness had a best supporting nod?
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He did. Nominated for Best Supporting Actor. He lost to Jason Roberts in Julia which was a pretty good movie.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Raiders of the Lost Ark was up for similar nominations. It lost best picture to Chariots of Fire. It's a little hard to win when you go up again the classics like that. Movies today just suck.

Wins​

Special and Honorary Awards​

77th Academy Awards, 1981Special Achievement Award for Sound Effects Editing — Ben Burtt, Richard L. Anderson

Nominations​

 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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The 70s and 80s had amazing movies win Best Picture. But as you can see they are all mostly relationship, mafia and bio-pics. No scifi or fantasy. It's kind of a list of my favorite movies.
  • 1990 - "Driving Miss Daisy"
  • 1989 - "Rain Man"
  • 1988 - "The Last Emperor"
  • 1987 - "Platoon"
  • 1986 - "Out of Africa"
  • 1985 - "Amadeus"
  • 1984 - "Terms of Endearment"
  • 1983 - "Gandhi"
  • 1982 - "Chariots of Fire"
  • 1981 - "Ordinary People"
  • 1980 - "Kramer vs. Kramer"
  • 1979 - "The Deer Hunter"
  • 1978 - "Annie Hall"
  • 1977 - "Rocky"
  • 1976 - "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest"
  • 1975 - "The Godfather Part II"
  • 1974 - "The Sting"
  • 1973 - "The Godfather"
  • 1972 - "The French Connection"
  • 1971 - "Patton"
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I happened upon a Forbes listing of profits from the world class Disney Star Wars movies today…

Here was the BO takeways:
The farce awakens: $500.2 mil
Outlier One: $268.4 mil
The last Johnson (thankfully): $324 mil
The rise of the sewage: $48.3 mil
Solo: -103.3

Can any statisticians out there make it make sense? Please use bright colors and few words so I can follow along 🙏🏻
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Sirwalterraleigh said:
I happened upon a Forbes listing of profits from the world class Disney Star Wars movies today…

Here was the BO takeways:
The farce awakens: $500.2 mil
Outlier One: $268.4 mil
The last Johnson (thankfully): $324 mil
The rise of the sewage: $48.3 mil
Solo: -103.3

Can any statisticians out there make it make sense? Please use bright colors and few words so I can follow along 🙏🏻
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My son showed me that. I didn't know TROS made less than Solo. It just show how TLJ killed the franchise. I really don't think The Gorgu movie will make a a bigger profit than TROS or even a profit at all.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Phroobar said:
My son showed me that. I didn't know TROS made less than Solo. It just show how TLJ killed the franchise. I really don't think The Gorgu movie will make a a bigger profit than TROS or even a profit at all.
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Solo was a NEGATIVE…but it really doesn’t change the straight downward trend much

We shall call it “the gravity strategy”
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Sirwalterraleigh said:
Solo was a NEGATIVE…but it really doesn’t change the straight downward trend much

We shall call it “the gravity strategy”
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I didn't see the negative.

Profit and Budget Breakdown​


Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens2015$638.9 million$500.2 million
Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi2017$414.6 million$324 million
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story2016$327.5 million$258.4 million
Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker2019$593.7 million$48.3 million
Solo: A Star Wars Story2018$365.7 million-$103.3 million
 

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