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News Guest dies, found unresponsive after riding Stardust Racers

Jon81uk

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Someone died on one ride, not six rides that seemingly have nothing in common. They've offered no further explanation, so we needn't create illogical ones for them. If the rides are unsafe? Yes, they should absolutely be closed to everyone, and even just by banning some people who were previously allowed to ride just fine, they are essentially saying, "So yeah, we just now figured out these rides are probably unsafe for people who've been riding them for years. We can't say why, but our bad, you guys."
Right now they can't say why, but it is better to take larger precautions and then once they have worked with the ride manufacturers further to investigate exactly what types of guest it is safe for maybe they can relax the rules again. Seems an entirely sensible precaution in my opinion. They don't need to provide an explanation other than stating that at present their guidance is that people with those access needs cannot ride.

I see no mention of "non-ambulant" guests on that sign. I've also heard nothing from any other parks with similar rides changing their rules.
I linked to the website (https://www.thorpepark.com/hyperia/#is-hyperia-suitable-for-guests-who-are-non-ambulant) where it mentions non-ambulant guests can't ride and that is a change in policy (users on another theme park forum kept screenshots so it is known that Thorpe Park changed the website following Universal's incident).
 

JT3000

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Right now they can't say why, but it is better to take larger precautions and then once they have worked with the ride manufacturers further to investigate exactly what types of guest it is safe for maybe they can relax the rules again. Seems an entirely sensible precaution in my opinion. They don't need to provide an explanation other than stating that at present their guidance is that people with those access needs cannot ride.
They haven't even said that much. They haven't said anything. I disagree, and I don't think a little transparency would kill them. But I know how these corporations, and they're only looking after their bottom line at the end of the day.
 

Jon81uk

Well-Known Member
They haven't even said that much. They haven't said anything. I disagree, and I don't think a little transparency would kill them. But I know how these corporations, and they're only looking after their bottom line at the end of the day.
They have changed the rider requirements for some attractions, that is what you started this discussion about.
But transparency would not be a good thing for them in this situation, stating "we have changed the rider requirements following a death on Stardust Racers" doesn't sound good. But even if they did state that, or even added in the "following advice from ride manufacturers we have updated rider requirements", what do you gain from that? You already know the restrictions have changed. No company is going to go into significant detail on why they make every little change.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
They haven't even said that much. They haven't said anything. I disagree, and I don't think a little transparency would kill them. But I know how these corporations, and they're only looking after their bottom line at the end of the day.
I think you know very well why they are not going to say much at the moment. And any company would hold the same position. You can say bottom line, you can say to protect jobs, obligation to stakeholders...whatever. You're asking for something they can't deliver on given the current circumstances.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
While it is not an ADA violation to restrict access, the changes are a step backwards. One that shouldn’t just be accepted and shrugged off.

A few days after this incident, Vekoma and Efteling unveiled their “seat-on-wheels” concept at the IAAPA Expo Europe. The idea is that instead of having to transfer at each ride, the seat is a wheelchair capable of being locked into multiple rides. Notably, the concept features an over-the-shoulder lap bar. These types of restraints have become more and more the industry standard in part because of the greater access they provide.l
 

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