Epcot Kristos with Clyde Beatty Coal Bros

[THEMEPARKPIONEER]

I stumbled uponsome old footage of the klyde Beatty Coal Bros Circuis and found this gem. These are the Kristos that performed in Innoventions. I forgot they were with that circus and did not expect to see them pop up in this video.

 

[LittleBuford]

I stumbled uponsome old footage of the klyde Beatty Coal Bros Circuis and found this gem. These are the Kristos that performed in Innoventions. I forgot they were with that circus and did not expect to see them pop up in this video.

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The footage is horrible. So sad to see animals treated that way.

 

[THEMEPARKPIONEER]

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The footage is horrible. So sad to see animals treated that way.

As much as I don’t like it they treated them better than most, Ringling Bros was disgusting to their animals

 

[LittleBuford]

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As much as I don’t like it they treated them better than most, Ringling Bros was disgusting to their animals

You can look them up to see the long list of abuse and neglect violations for which they were fined [ETA: to save you the trouble: https://www.bornfreeusa.org/2000/02/24/new_cole_brothers_circus_fact_sheet/] No circus animal is well treated; they all perform under duress and out of fear.

ETA: At any rate, thanks for removing the footage.

 

[THEMEPARKPIONEER]

You can look them up to see the long list of abuse and neglect violations for which they were fined [ETA: to save you the trouble: https://www.bornfreeusa.org/2000/02/24/new_cole_brothers_circus_fact_sheet/] No circus animal is well treated; they all perform under duress and out of fear.

ETA: At any rate, thanks for removing the footage.

I’m learning something new but I believe you, all they really needed was the human acts, maybe a dog act there more travelers than a wild animal.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

I talked about this before when I first called the Spiderman alien show a while back..

Thread 'Epcot's Green Alien Spider-Men & Woman'

Apr 14, 2025

Okay, your asking yourself right now...Wait what? there couldn't have been something this weird going on in Innoventions plaza at the time..So, say your just roaming around Innoventions at the dawn of the New Millennium of 1999 and all of a sudden you see a set of 3 (2 men and 1 woman) Green Spider Men like Suited performers randomly walking around oddly around the plaza to do an acrobatic show by the FoN......It has such a weird way for this so called "Show" to begin in the Park...Anyone ever encounter this bit of rare Epcot oddity? Just hit play it's Timestamp will bring you right to...

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[Smiley/OCD]

I’m learning something new but I believe you, all they really needed was the human acts, maybe a dog act there more travelers than a wild animal.

Letterman had it right…stupid human & stupid pet tricks…

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The footage is horrible. So sad to see animals treated that way.

There are many who don’t think any live animals should be in Disney Parks and resorts. I personally think Disney takes good care of them.

I obviously can’t speak for all circus shows - but I’m sure there were some that treated animals well.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Oh, days when they had oddball specials and this one came to mind....

 

[LittleBuford]

There are many who don’t think any live animals should be in Disney Parks and resorts.

And I would be one of them. But that has nothing to do with this thread.

I obviously can’t speak for all circus shows - but I’m sure there were some that treated animals well.

What is your certainty based on? Have you actually looked into how circus animals are trained? Or researched the welfare records of even the most famous and "reputable" circus companies? Because I can assure you that if you had, you wouldn't be asserting such a thing. It is impossible to train wild animals like tigers and elephants to perform circus tricks except through violence and coercion. That the bullhook (look it up if you don't know what it is) is a required tool for training elephants should tell you something.

My position is not a radical one:

Circuses and Traveling Shows

The ASPCA is opposed to using wild or exotic (non-native wild) animals, whether taken from the wild or captive-bred, in circuses, carnivals and other traveling animal shows because of the stress, cruelty and physical, social and psychological deprivations that the animals inevitably suffer, many...

www.aspca.org

AZA to phase out bullhooks for elephant management

By American Veterinary Medical Association The Association of Zoos and Aquariums announced it is phasing out the use of bullhooks for routine elephant care and training at member zoos by the start of 2021. The accrediting organization's board also approved a statement of intent to completely...

www.africanelephantjournal.com