Lightning Lane Premier Pass

[LittleBuford]

Fine…

So
1. How much time does it save you?
2. What do you do with that time instead?

1. Enough that the service is worth it to me. A queue doesn’t have to involve an inordinately long wait for me to want to skip it.

2. Dine, shop, do other attractions.

Some people spend far more than I ever would on accommodation, opting for moderate and deluxe options that I, as someone content to stay in a value, don’t consider good value for my needs. I don’t judge them for spending their money as they see fit.

People need to stop assuming that their needs and preferences are the same as others’.

 

[Chi84]

I realise I don’t need Lightning Lane but would rather pay for it than spend time in queues. Of course it’s not “special to me”—it’s just a service that I’ve chosen to pay for

Don’t you feel at least a little special when the CMs carry you past the standby guests like Cleopatra?

Oh, wait . . .

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Don’t you feel at least a little special when the CMs carry you past the standby guests like Cleopatra?

Oh, wait . . .

That's Lightning Lane Premiere Pass Plus

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

1. Enough that the service is worth it to me. A queue doesn’t have to involve an inordinately long wait for me to want to skip it.

2. Dine, shop, do other attractions.

Some people spend far more than I ever would on accommodation, opting for moderate and deluxe options that I, as someone content to stay in a value, don’t consider good value for my needs. I don’t judge them for spending their money as they see fit.

People need to stop assuming that their needs and preferences are the same as others’.

So it makes you feel good and then you Dump more money into them?

…so let me rethink my analysis…I’ll get the slide rule out

 

[LittleBuford]

So it makes you feel good and then you Dump more money into them?

That applies to pretty much any discretionary spending. We pay for products and services that we enjoy. You’re no different from me in that regard.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That applies to pretty much any discretionary spending. We pay for products and services that we enjoy. You’re no different from me in that regard.

I can think of one thing we definitely have in common…we’re both here

 

[LittleBuford]

I can think of one thing we definitely have in common…we’re both here

Well, we both give our money to Disney.

 

[Chi84]

That applies to pretty much any discretionary spending. We pay for products and services that we enjoy. You’re no different from me in that regard.

That makes no sense to someone who’s convinced that WDW is not enjoyable.

 

[LittleBuford]

That makes no sense to someone who’s convinced that WDW is not enjoyable.

After much prodding on this during another exchange, @Sirwalterraleigh clarified to me that he does still find WDW broadly enjoyable but is opposed to certain services and products that he feels ruin the experience. The problem is that he doesn't seem willing to acknowledge that others might legitimately feel differently about those services and products; anyone who doesn't share his opinion must somehow have fallen prey to Disney's tricks, or deluded themselves, or otherwise not be in control of their right mind.

At the end of the day, we're all spending money on a destination that millions of our fellow human beings consider an absurd place to visit and wouldn't step foot in. To them, it doesn't matter if the money is going on Lightning Lanes or monorail resorts; it's all equally silly and wasteful. You'd think we'd be safe from such judgements within our community, but apparently not.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

After much prodding on this during another exchange, @Sirwalterraleigh clarified to me that he does still find WDW broadly enjoyable but is opposed to certain services and products that he feels ruin the experience. The problem is that he doesn't seem willing to acknowledge that others might legitimately feel differently about those services and products; anyone who doesn't share his opinion must somehow have fallen prey to Disney's tricks, or deluded themselves, or otherwise not be in control of their right mind.

At the end of the day, we're all spending money on a destination that millions of our fellow human beings consider an absurd place to visit and wouldn't step foot in. To them, it doesn't matter if the money is going on Lightning Lanes or monorail resorts; it's all equally silly and wasteful. You'd think we'd be safe from such judgements within our community, but apparently not.

You’re in the right ballpark…you haven’t found what section I’m in yet…but definitely getting closer

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well, we both give our money to Disney.

Same destination…different routes

 

[Tom P.]

I don’t think many of the lightning lane purchasers are who you describe…

There a certain psychology behind upsells at Disney parks…more often than not.

The buyer has to believe it’s “special to them” and by dumping more and more into it…it makes life better…but that is not really a valid thought pattern

I dunno, man. Now you know how much I hate to disagree with you. I hardly ever do it. But do you really think people are viewing something like purchasing Lightning Lane as a decision about making their life better? I don't think most people are giving it that much thought. Sure, I think taking a vacation does actually make your life better. But one specific purchase of a convenience item on that vacation? Nah. I think folks just see it as that -- a convenience -- and don't give it much more thought than that. Again, though, I could be wrong. As I have said, it happened once in 1999.

 

[Splash4eva]

I don’t think many of the lightning lane purchasers are who you describe…

There a certain psychology behind upsells at Disney parks…more often than not.

The buyer has to believe it’s “special to them” and by dumping more and more into it…it makes life better…but that is not really a valid thought pattern

So one of accounts he is in Cali meeting west coast clients. Him and his wife decided to go to DL today. So he mentioned to me etc. So i was telling him certain things and he was like and i explained to him how he can avoid the hassle and just pay to skip lines whenever he wanted to and he was like perfect and he is currently there now doing just that. People who are going for a day and dont wanna deal i think are just saying f it and paying up…

 

[LittleBuford]

You’re in the right ballpark…you haven’t found what section I’m in yet…but definitely getting closer

I imagine these discussions would go a lot more smoothly if you just stated your positions clearly instead of engaging in cryptic riddles.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I dunno, man. Now you know how much I hate to disagree with you. I hardly ever do it. But do you really think people are viewing something like purchasing Lightning Lane as a decision about making their life better? I don't think most people are giving it that much thought. Sure, I think taking a vacation does actually make your life better. But one specific purchase of a convenience item on that vacation? Nah. I think folks just see it as that -- a convenience -- and don't give it much more thought than that. Again, though, I could be wrong. As I have said, it happened once in 1999.

As part of the overall picture? Yeah I do.

Just an opinion. But there is a thang going on.

The “Disney adults” thing is becoming more of a talking point…what I’m thinking definitely applies to that.

Also when what I assume to be reasonably/highly successful adults (it ain’t cheap…so it takes some degree of success) at parks that like to go gaga…like talking about everything as a “experiency”. That was straight from PR/psychology department when they hatched it some years ago. The goal is clear: to detach the consumer from what they’re buying with a price boundary. Breakfast should be $20…but you roll Minnie by and the “experience” is now $50. What are we 5 year olds? Brains switched off?

Like fishing with dynamite for the old “company”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So one of accounts he is in Cali meeting west coast clients. Him and his wife decided to go to DL today. So he mentioned to me etc. So i was telling him certain things and he was like and i explained to him how he can avoid the hassle and just pay to skip lines whenever he wanted to and he was like perfect and he is currently there now doing just that. People who are going for a day and dont wanna deal i think are just saying f it and paying up…

I get that…

But I invite you to find anyone talking about LL HERE as fitting into that box?

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

As part of the overall picture? Yeah I do.

Just an opinion. But there is a thang going on.

The “Disney adults” thing is becoming more of a talking point…what I’m thinking definitely applies to that.

Also when what I assume to be reasonably/highly successful adults (it ain’t cheap…so it takes some degree of success) at parks that like to go gaga…like talking about everything as a “experiency”. That was straight from PR/psychology department when they hatched it some years ago. The goal is clear: to detach the consumer from what they’re buying with a price boundary. Breakfast should be $20…but you roll Minnie by and the “experience” is now $50. What are we 5 year olds? Brains switched off?

Like fishing with dynamite for the old “company”

I find other uses of money completely absurd but I don't call people 5 year olds but thats just me.

I would rather watch paint dry than watch another MLB game in person but there are people who go all out there too.

 

[Chi84]

I find other uses of money completely absurd but I don't call people 5 year olds but thats just me.

I would rather watch paint dry than watch another MLB game in person but there are people who go all out there too.

Minnie showing up at a breakfast IS for 5 year olds. We adults pay for it because we love seeing the joy it brings to 5 year olds.

The pictures, videos and memories from my grandkids’ (ages 5, 3, 3 and 2)
interactions with the characters at Topolino’s are priceless.

And no, I couldn’t care less whether they remember it. I remember their excitement and joy.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Minnie showing up at a breakfast IS for 5 year olds. We adults pay for it because we love seeing the joy it brings to 5 year olds.

The pictures, videos and memories from my grandkids’ (ages 5, 3, 3 and 2)
interactions with the characters at Topolino’s are priceless.

And no, I couldn’t care less whether they remember it. I remember their excitement and joy.

Well of course THAT is for younger kids but I think some adults do get some enjoyment from it, not my personal thing but eh I'm not going to still bash them because its harmless and probably healing an inner child so whatever.

There are people out there that dismiss all of Disney as being for children so we're really just getting layers of the same overall idea with this.

 

[LittleBuford]

Minnie showing up at a breakfast IS for 5 year olds. We adults pay for it because we love seeing the joy it brings to 5 year olds.

At the risk of inviting derision for being a Disney Adult, and without denying that such experiences are primarily intended for kids, I will note that I pay for and enjoy character dining experiences even though I don’t travel with children.