News Guest dies, found unresponsive after riding Stardust Racers

[mergatroid]

Reading between the lines I wonder whether Universal have proof that it was somehow not their fault and rather the victim's for doing something during the ride? You would have thought that they'd want to explain why Kevin sadly passed away before reopening under normal circumstances in order to put rider's minds at ease that they're in no danger. Obviously by saying the restrictions of who can ride will be increased it's like they're expressing that it was somehow connected with the death, without saying it publicly?

Perhaps they've spoken to the family lawyer and explained the cause of death as not being their fault and have agreed not to reveal that publicly to save his family anymore suffering?

There's a lot of unanswered questions here which is odd, usually you'd have an explanation of how the death occurred before a reopening wouldn't you?

 

[CoastalElite64]

I am glad if the ride is determined to be safe and they guarantee us that an able-bodied person who faints on the ride wont suffer the same fate.

Their customers deserve an explanation and transparency.

 

[Andrew C]

I am glad if the ride is determined to be safe and they guarantee us that an able-bodied person who faints on the ride wont suffer the same fate.

If you want those sorts of guarantees, you should never ride any coaster ever.

Also, Universal has not even released a public statement about reopening yet (unless they have in the last hour and I missed it.).

 

[lazyboy97o]

I guess it’s weird that people are happy something is re-opening after a death? Maybe I’m just reading the room wrong.

Should it not reopen? Or what would be a more appropriate response?

 

[mkt]

And when I said this is what the ultimate outcome was gonna be I got jumped for it

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I'm glad you were right.

 

[mkt]

I am glad if the ride is determined to be safe and they guarantee us that an able-bodied person who faints on the ride wont suffer the same fate.

Nothing in life comes with a guarantee.

 

[flynnibus]

I can't see how UNI is progressing here without presenting their own conclusion on the incident.

If you are reopening without any changes.. you're saying it was totally on the rider. But not how?
If you are reopening with changes on ride restrictions - you're basically admitting a gap in the prior policy.. but they haven't said anything about what the accident was, or why this guy...
Just saying 'everything worked as intended' doesn't address how someone died.. because dying isn't part of the expected outcomes. They need to address how that outcome occurred.

I'm guessing the need for SDR for epic is just too great - but I just can't see how this ends well for UNI in the end here to get to this point without at least presenting conclusions.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I can't see how UNI is progressing here without presenting their own conclusion on the incident.

If you are reopening without any changes.. you're saying it was totally on the rider. But not how?
If you are reopening with changes on ride restrictions - you're basically admitting a gap in the prior policy.. but they haven't said anything about what the accident was, or why this guy...
Just saying 'everything worked as intended' doesn't address how someone died.. because dying isn't part of the expected outcomes. They need to address how that outcome occurred.

I'm guessing the need for SDR for epic is just too great - but I just can't see how this ends well for UNI in the end here to get to this point without at least presenting conclusions.

They are reopening because there is nothing wrong with the ride.

I think they admitted they were not strict enough and they should have not permitted Kevin on the ride and they will be stricter going forward for all attractions.

The very sad thing about this is Universal was trying to be inclusive and accommodating in allowing Kevin to ride.

 

[VicariousCorpse]

If you are reopening with changes on ride restrictions - you're basically admitting a gap in the prior policy.. but they haven't said anything about what the accident was, or why this guy...

They aren't changing the ride restrictions, they said they are updating the policies and signage to reinforce the already existing rules.

 

[mergatroid]

I can't see how UNI is progressing here without presenting their own conclusion on the incident.

If you are reopening without any changes.. you're saying it was totally on the rider. But not how?
If you are reopening with changes on ride restrictions - you're basically admitting a gap in the prior policy.. but they haven't said anything about what the accident was, or why this guy...
Just saying 'everything worked as intended' doesn't address how someone died.. because dying isn't part of the expected outcomes. They need to address how that outcome occurred.

I'm guessing the need for SDR for epic is just too great - but I just can't see how this ends well for UNI in the end here to get to this point without at least presenting conclusions.

It's certainly confusing, that's why I'm wondering whether there was something the rider did wrong that they've passed on to his lawyer as his silence so far seems odd. I can't think of anything that he could have done wrong but not addressing why a man went on an attraction alive and came off dead seems a strange way of reopening it. Whilst different reasons for deaths on Disney attractions have occurred in the past (and other parks) some their fault, some deemed not, I think they explained the causes of death before reopening.

If we hear no more from the very outspoken family lawyer soon it would perhaps hint to the fact that the cause of death is known and Universal are keeping it out of the headlines out of respect for the family of Kevin who have a lot to deal with right now?

 

[mergatroid]

 

[flynnibus]

They aren't changing the ride restrictions, they said they are updating the policies and signage to reinforce the already existing rules.

When your restrictions are pretty generic, and now you start adding more precision... 'existing restrictions' or not.. you are changing the policies and restrictions... even if you don't change the titles.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Many people have booked trips and were excited for this ride, so I think it’s fair for people to be happy they can experience it.

One accident and tragedy doesn’t need to negate other people’s joy.

This was clearly a sad and tragic accident, and the safety of the coaster has been reassured with them reopening so soon.

Well said. My thoughts exactly.

 

[Jrb1979]

I can't see how UNI is progressing here without presenting their own conclusion on the incident.

If you are reopening without any changes.. you're saying it was totally on the rider. But not how?
If you are reopening with changes on ride restrictions - you're basically admitting a gap in the prior policy.. but they haven't said anything about what the accident was, or why this guy...
Just saying 'everything worked as intended' doesn't address how someone died.. because dying isn't part of the expected outcomes. They need to address how that outcome occurred.

I'm guessing the need for SDR for epic is just too great - but I just can't see how this ends well for UNI in the end here to get to this point without at least presenting conclusions.

Honestly it will likely end up the same as other deaths on coasters. Forgotten in a few weeks by the general public

 

[flynnibus]

Honestly it will likely end up the same as other deaths on coasters. Forgotten in a few weeks by the general public

Honestly nothing I was talking about was really about public opinion.. I'm talking about the on record activity they are setting up for the future lawsuits.

 

[lazyboy97o]

If we hear no more from the very outspoken family lawyer soon it would perhaps hint to the fact that the cause of death is known and Universal are keeping it out of the headlines out of respect for the family of Kevin who have a lot to deal with right now?

That’s not something Universal would get in advance or be able to keep secret.

 

[Comped]

That’s not something Universal would get in advance or be able to keep secret.

Especially given Florida's very open public records laws.

 

[lewisc]

If we hear no more from the very outspoken family lawyer soon it would perhaps hint to the fact that the cause of death is known and Universal are keeping it out of the headlines out of respect for the family of Kevin who have a lot to deal with right now?

Or a settlement is imminent.

 

[Jrb1979]

Honestly nothing I was talking about was really about public opinion.. I'm talking about the on record activity they are setting up for the future lawsuits.

What are they supposed to do? Add more restraints? Come out and say he shouldn't have ridden it?

 

[flynnibus]

What are they supposed to do? Add more restraints? Come out and say he shouldn't have ridden it?

Have a plan that includes addressing their liability. This current move looks like they will just settle the case ASAP vs fight anything in an effort to keep SDR running for Epic capacity. Which is a path you can take.. as long as nothing else goes south. If it does, such 'everything is normal' kind of move will bury them next time.